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Achievement on Profile?

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:09 pm
by Lindax
What the new "Achievement" thingy for? It's on people's profile page. One can't seem to fill something in though....

Another update that went unannounced? Or did I miss something?

Lx

Re: Achievement on Profile?

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:28 pm
by TheForgivenOne
I don't see anything? :?

Re: Achievement on Profile?

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:29 pm
by Gilligan
TheForgivenOne wrote:I don't see anything? :?


Luck:View TheForgivenOne's dice stats
Achievement:
Location:Wetaskiwin Alberta Canada

Re: Achievement on Profile?

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:07 pm
by TheForgivenOne
Gilligan wrote:
TheForgivenOne wrote:I don't see anything? :?


Luck:View TheForgivenOne's dice stats
Achievement:
Location:Wetaskiwin Alberta Canada


Hmmm, interesting.

I've pointed it out to blake, so maybe he'll know?

Re: Achievement on Profile?

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:39 pm
by greenoaks
Lindax wrote:What the new "Achievement" thingy for? It's on people's profile page. One can't seem to fill something in though....

Another update that went unannounced? Or did I miss something?

Lx

highest rank.

Re: Achievement on Profile?

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 7:05 pm
by Dukasaur
Vertical spacing is a bit off.

Re: Achievement on Profile?

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:48 pm
by Gilligan
Dukasaur wrote:Vertical spacing is a bit off.


Probably cause there's no text next to it.

Re: Achievement on Profile?

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:57 pm
by Lindax
Gilligan wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:Vertical spacing is a bit off.


Probably cause there's no text next to it.


Exactly! What vertical spacing? :lol:

Lx

Re: Achievement on Profile?

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:58 pm
by Lindax
greenoaks wrote:
Lindax wrote:What the new "Achievement" thingy for? It's on people's profile page. One can't seem to fill something in though....

Another update that went unannounced? Or did I miss something?

Lx

highest rank.


Does that mean I don't have one?

Lx

Re: Achievement on Profile?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:21 am
by Dukasaur
Lindax wrote:
Gilligan wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:Vertical spacing is a bit off.


Probably cause there's no text next to it.


Exactly! What vertical spacing? :lol:

Lx

The distance between "Luck" and "Achievement" looks much greater than the distance between "Achievement" and "Country".

Re: Achievement on Profile?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:23 am
by blakebowling
That space should contain a link to your medal stats page (and any other user's medal stats page). I'm not sure why it isn't showing up properly.

Re: Achievement on Profile?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:32 am
by sdh
blakebowling wrote:That space should contain a link to your medal stats page (and any other user's medal stats page). I'm not sure why it isn't showing up properly.


Nice, I wanted this when medal stats was first introduced :)

Will high scores ever show on the profile page?

Re: Achievement on Profile?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 6:03 am
by blakebowling
sdh wrote:
blakebowling wrote:That space should contain a link to your medal stats page (and any other user's medal stats page). I'm not sure why it isn't showing up properly.


Nice, I wanted this when medal stats was first introduced :)

Will high scores ever show on the profile page?

It's possible, though they aren't currently recorded, so the best we could do is high score since implementation (i.e. if I implemented it today, it would show your high score from today on)

Re: Achievement on Profile?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 6:18 am
by zimmah
blakebowling wrote:
sdh wrote:
blakebowling wrote:That space should contain a link to your medal stats page (and any other user's medal stats page). I'm not sure why it isn't showing up properly.


Nice, I wanted this when medal stats was first introduced :)

Will high scores ever show on the profile page?

It's possible, though they aren't currently recorded, so the best we could do is high score since implementation (i.e. if I implemented it today, it would show your high score from today on)


i'd like that, although sadly it's been a long time since i had a score above 2000 points.

I should really play some more serious games to get back at the 2000+ mark.

Re: Achievement on Profile?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 7:14 am
by iAmCaffeine
That would be fine by me. :D

Re: Achievement on Profile?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 7:01 pm
by Lindax
blakebowling wrote:That space should contain a link to your medal stats page (and any other user's medal stats page). I'm not sure why it isn't showing up properly.


That makes sense.... NOT!

Everybody can see what medals you have on the same profile page and everybody has a link to their own Medal Stats on the menu on the left.... Why would anybody want to see somebody else's Medal Stats? You guys surely have better things to do.

Why not leave it to the users to fill in the achievement they want there? Then people can use "Interests" for interests instead of their highest score, etc.

And then properly announce the update, of course.

Lx

Re: Achievement on Profile?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:04 pm
by BigBallinStalin
Lindax wrote:
blakebowling wrote:That space should contain a link to your medal stats page (and any other user's medal stats page). I'm not sure why it isn't showing up properly.


That makes sense.... NOT!

Everybody can see what medals you have on the same profile page and everybody has a link to their own Medal Stats on the menu on the left.... Why would anybody want to see somebody else's Medal Stats? You guys surely have better things to do.

Why not leave it to the users to fill in the achievement they want there? Then people can use "Interests" for interests instead of their highest score, etc.

And then properly announce the update, of course.

Lx

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Re: Achievement on Profile?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:20 pm
by ljex
blakebowling wrote:
sdh wrote:
blakebowling wrote:That space should contain a link to your medal stats page (and any other user's medal stats page). I'm not sure why it isn't showing up properly.


Nice, I wanted this when medal stats was first introduced :)

Will high scores ever show on the profile page?

It's possible, though they aren't currently recorded, so the best we could do is high score since implementation (i.e. if I implemented it today, it would show your high score from today on)


there is no way to data mine the historical games? maprank comes up with a high score so couldnt you do something similar?

Re: Achievement on Profile?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 3:33 pm
by blakebowling
ljex wrote:
blakebowling wrote:
sdh wrote:
blakebowling wrote:That space should contain a link to your medal stats page (and any other user's medal stats page). I'm not sure why it isn't showing up properly.


Nice, I wanted this when medal stats was first introduced :)

Will high scores ever show on the profile page?

It's possible, though they aren't currently recorded, so the best we could do is high score since implementation (i.e. if I implemented it today, it would show your high score from today on)


there is no way to data mine the historical games? maprank comes up with a high score so couldnt you do something similar?

We can data mine the old games, however some games are missing game logs due to a server mishap, so those couldn't be recovered. The problem with data mining in this large of a dataset with this many parameters (we'd have to mine for every user on the site), the amount of time and processing power required would be unrealistic. I'll keep looking into it to see what we can do.

Re: Achievement on Profile?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 3:35 pm
by eddie2
lol do we get one for most multis busted at once :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Re: Achievement on Profile?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 5:10 pm
by greenoaks
blakebowling wrote:
ljex wrote:
blakebowling wrote:
sdh wrote:
blakebowling wrote:That space should contain a link to your medal stats page (and any other user's medal stats page). I'm not sure why it isn't showing up properly.


Nice, I wanted this when medal stats was first introduced :)

Will high scores ever show on the profile page?

It's possible, though they aren't currently recorded, so the best we could do is high score since implementation (i.e. if I implemented it today, it would show your high score from today on)


there is no way to data mine the historical games? maprank comes up with a high score so couldnt you do something similar?

We can data mine the old games, however some games are missing game logs due to a server mishap, so those couldn't be recovered. The problem with data mining in this large of a dataset with this many parameters (we'd have to mine for every user on the site), the amount of time and processing power required would be unrealistic. I'll keep looking into it to see what we can do.

you'd only have to do it once. after that it would be an hourly check of the scoreboard vs that field.

Re: Achievement on Profile?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 5:16 pm
by ljex
blakebowling wrote:
ljex wrote:
blakebowling wrote:
sdh wrote:
blakebowling wrote:That space should contain a link to your medal stats page (and any other user's medal stats page). I'm not sure why it isn't showing up properly.


Nice, I wanted this when medal stats was first introduced :)

Will high scores ever show on the profile page?

It's possible, though they aren't currently recorded, so the best we could do is high score since implementation (i.e. if I implemented it today, it would show your high score from today on)


there is no way to data mine the historical games? maprank comes up with a high score so couldnt you do something similar?

We can data mine the old games, however some games are missing game logs due to a server mishap, so those couldn't be recovered. The problem with data mining in this large of a dataset with this many parameters (we'd have to mine for every user on the site), the amount of time and processing power required would be unrealistic. I'll keep looking into it to see what we can do.


you would only need to do it for active users, so accounting for about about 13,000 users or a total approximate game count of 13,000,000 (1,000 per user on average). I dont know that much about how long it would take to extract that data from the game logs, but i regularly extract 500,000k + records at my work and that only takes 5-10 minutes. Granted that software likely houses the data so it is easier to extract.

If you can get the username and points won/lost in time order in an excel file it is not hard to calculate a running tally and the maximum for each player.

I dont know how long it would take to do the data dump in excel very well but i think you are overestimating the time it would take to go back and calculate such each players high score. From there when players return you can calculate them on an individual, weekly or monthly basis to keep it up and running.

Re: Achievement on Profile?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 5:20 pm
by blakebowling
greenoaks wrote:
blakebowling wrote:
ljex wrote:
blakebowling wrote:
sdh wrote:
blakebowling wrote:That space should contain a link to your medal stats page (and any other user's medal stats page). I'm not sure why it isn't showing up properly.


Nice, I wanted this when medal stats was first introduced :)

Will high scores ever show on the profile page?

It's possible, though they aren't currently recorded, so the best we could do is high score since implementation (i.e. if I implemented it today, it would show your high score from today on)


there is no way to data mine the historical games? maprank comes up with a high score so couldnt you do something similar?

We can data mine the old games, however some games are missing game logs due to a server mishap, so those couldn't be recovered. The problem with data mining in this large of a dataset with this many parameters (we'd have to mine for every user on the site), the amount of time and processing power required would be unrealistic. I'll keep looking into it to see what we can do.

you'd only have to do it once. after that it would be an hourly check of the scoreboard vs that field.

That's true, and it is possible, but to calculate them all at once would require a website downtime. I'm looking into distributing the load over time to get this done. It'll take some time to get this setup though.

@ljex: most likely it will be either a thing that is done for scoreboard active users, or maybe a thing that is triggered on login if it isn't already calculated.

I'll continue to look into it, as it is something I'd like to do, but I have a long-established list of things that have to be done.

Re: Achievement on Profile?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 5:33 pm
by ljex
blakebowling wrote:That's true, and it is possible, but to calculate them all at once would require a website downtime. I'm looking into distributing the load over time to get this done. It'll take some time to get this setup though.

@ljex: most likely it will be either a thing that is done for scoreboard active users, or maybe a thing that is triggered on login if it isn't already calculated.

I'll continue to look into it, as it is something I'd like to do, but I have a long-established list of things that have to be done.


Yes i agree, that would cut the records required significantly. If you can get the data out of cc into excel in order i can calculate it for you no problem.

Re: Achievement on Profile?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:20 pm
by greenoaks
blakebowling wrote:
greenoaks wrote:
blakebowling wrote:
ljex wrote:
blakebowling wrote: It's possible, though they aren't currently recorded, so the best we could do is high score since implementation (i.e. if I implemented it today, it would show your high score from today on)


there is no way to data mine the historical games? maprank comes up with a high score so couldnt you do something similar?

We can data mine the old games, however some games are missing game logs due to a server mishap, so those couldn't be recovered. The problem with data mining in this large of a dataset with this many parameters (we'd have to mine for every user on the site), the amount of time and processing power required would be unrealistic. I'll keep looking into it to see what we can do.

you'd only have to do it once. after that it would be an hourly check of the scoreboard vs that field.

That's true, and it is possible, but to calculate them all at once would require a website downtime. I'm looking into distributing the load over time to get this done. It'll take some time to get this setup though.

@ljex: most likely it will be either a thing that is done for scoreboard active users, or maybe a thing that is triggered on login if it isn't already calculated.

I'll continue to look into it, as it is something I'd like to do, but I have a long-established list of things that have to be done.

site-wide downtime (so no rush) is when i was thinking it would happen but only for those on the scoreboard.

inactive accounts would only get that field filled if they come back (just like medals awarded).