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Classic games, australian bonus

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 11:02 pm
by Shacekenhall
In the classic map

It´s not fair that australia, with only one border to protect, have 2 armies from bonus,

Southamerica has two borders to protect and the weight of africa supports and western europe,

I think australia most have 1 army of bonus,

What do you thing?

Regards Shace

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 11:28 pm
by Genghis Khan CA
Well it's been like that since the original board game, so it's unlikely to change...

I think it's fair overall that both are equal bonuses since both have 4 countries
and South America is in a better position strategically. From South America you can expand into Africa or North America which are easier to hold than Asia, which is the logical expansion point from Australia.

Personally I think Australia is a nicer continent to hold since it is much easier to defend, however overall I think the 2 army bonus is fair for both.

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 11:32 pm
by sully800
Genghis Khan CA wrote:Well it's been like that since the original board game, so it's unlikely to change...

I think it's fair overall that both are equal bonuses since both have 4 countries
and South America is in a better position strategically. From South America you can expand into Africa or North America which are easier to hold than Asia, which is the logical expansion point from Australia.

Personally I think Australia is a nicer continent to hold since it is much easier to defend, however overall I think the 2 army bonus is fair for both.


I hope you read my post on this topic a few days ago so its fresh in your mind. Otherwise we are thinking quite alike again!

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 11:38 pm
by Genghis Khan CA
No, I didn't!! :shock:

This is getting scary! :P

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 6:58 am
by twinfists
sure, australia is easy to defend, but getting out of their is mighty hard, since which ever way you go you have fast increasing numbers of boundry territories. Asia is tough to hold and that is the only direction to expand. So i think bonus of two is fair.

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 8:02 am
by detlef
Well, I'd actually rather have SA than Aussie despite the two borders, so I guess I don't think the bonus is too high. Hell, what about NA vs Europe. Europe is next to impossible to defend and is worth the same as NA. Beyond that, you can expand from NA into SA, not take on any more borders and get another 3 armies per turn (1 due to the fact that you'll be occupying another 3 territories).

So no, I don't think the bonus should be changed.

Bonus

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 5:50 pm
by Shacekenhall
It's true what you say about australia,

But I guess it will be more interesting if the bonus is only 1 army, a lot of players tent to stay all the game there and let the play to others because they have a really good bonus considering the number of countries.

Well anyway just a tought

Regards

Shace

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 5:52 pm
by chessplaya
when the bonus of australia is less then 2 armies i will stop playing risk...or "CC' or whatever u want to call it

oops forgot to mention why....well its obvious when that is done the game will be so lame...

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 7:23 pm
by sfhbballnut
you can't mess with classic

Re: Classic games, australian bonus

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 8:46 pm
by Soloman
Shacekenhall wrote:In the classic map

It´s not fair that australia, with only one border to protect, have 2 armies from bonus,

Southamerica has two borders to protect and the weight of africa supports and western europe,

I think australia most have 1 army of bonus,

What do you thing?

Regards Shace
STFU please 1 of the dumbest questions in a while quit whining and play a different board

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 8:51 pm
by AAFitz
I agree it should be changed....Also, I think boardwalk's rent is far too high...

and Aces should not be the highest cards in the deck

and the stratego men should get renumbered so that 10 is a marshal instead of a one......actually they did that, almost lost some real money on that one

Re: Classic games, australian bonus

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 9:28 pm
by Shacekenhall
Soloman wrote:
Shacekenhall wrote:In the classic map

It´s not fair that australia, with only one border to protect, have 2 armies from bonus,

Southamerica has two borders to protect and the weight of africa supports and western europe,

I think australia most have 1 army of bonus,

What do you thing?

Regards Shace
STFU please 1 of the dumbest questions in a while quit whining and play a different board


Nobody is whining idiot, it was a suggestion, go to cry to another Forum

Bonus

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 9:32 pm
by Shacekenhall
Well,

I still think it will be nice if australia has only one army of bonus, and I realize only a 20% probably things as me.

let's keep it in the way it is right now and close this subject,

Regards to all

Shace

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 10:37 pm
by wicked
Then how would snifner ever win a game? :shock: :lol:

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 10:51 pm
by sully800
AAFitz wrote:I agree it should be changed....Also, I think boardwalk's rent is far too high...

and Aces should not be the highest cards in the deck

and the stratego men should get renumbered so that 10 is a marshal instead of a one......actually they did that, almost lost some real money on that one


Yeah, that was really confusing.

This is somewhat related: If you know how to do a 2 move checkmate you can make a lot of money off of people who don't believe such a thing exists.

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 10:56 pm
by chewyman
It's already been said but I'll repeat it anyway :o

From SA you can advance into either NA or Africa with ease. From Australia you really can't do anything but advance into Asia, which is enormous and really difficult to hold. I find Aus better in no card games, but if it's flat rate or escalating then SA is still much better.

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 11:43 pm
by john1099
sully800 wrote:
AAFitz wrote:I agree it should be changed....Also, I think boardwalk's rent is far too high...

and Aces should not be the highest cards in the deck

and the stratego men should get renumbered so that 10 is a marshal instead of a one......actually they did that, almost lost some real money on that one


Yeah, that was really confusing.

This is somewhat related: If you know how to do a 2 move checkmate you can make a lot of money off of people who don't believe such a thing exists.


How sully, tell us!



I know the one move checkmate, its picking up the opponents king, and tossing it across the room, and declaring "haha, you forfeit"

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 12:03 am
by sully800
john1099 wrote:
sully800 wrote:
AAFitz wrote:I agree it should be changed....Also, I think boardwalk's rent is far too high...

and Aces should not be the highest cards in the deck

and the stratego men should get renumbered so that 10 is a marshal instead of a one......actually they did that, almost lost some real money on that one


Yeah, that was really confusing.

This is somewhat related: If you know how to do a 2 move checkmate you can make a lot of money off of people who don't believe such a thing exists.


How sully, tell us!

I know the one move checkmate, its picking up the opponents king, and tossing it across the room, and declaring "haha, you forfeit"


:lol:

Sorry man, that's one trick I won't just explain. Because I guarantee someone won't believe me when I say I could do a 2 move checkmate.

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 12:05 am
by Coleman
sully800 wrote:Sorry man, that's one trick I won't just explain. Because I guarantee someone won't believe me when I say I could do a 2 move checkmate.

Seen it, but your opponent kinda has to let it happen and help a bit. :roll:

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 12:09 am
by snifner
wicked wrote:Then how would snifner ever win a game? :shock: :lol:


LMAO @ wicked - I threw myself hopelessly at Australia tonight and Scott-Land kicked me off that side of the board. But somehow I still won that game somehow :P 432041

Games completed: 250
Rank: 104
Times I lost with Australia:

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 1:15 am
by demigod
john1099 wrote:
sully800 wrote:
AAFitz wrote:I agree it should be changed....Also, I think boardwalk's rent is far too high...

and Aces should not be the highest cards in the deck

and the stratego men should get renumbered so that 10 is a marshal instead of a one......actually they did that, almost lost some real money on that one


Yeah, that was really confusing.

This is somewhat related: If you know how to do a 2 move checkmate you can make a lot of money off of people who don't believe such a thing exists.


How sully, tell us!



I know the one move checkmate, its picking up the opponents king, and tossing it across the room, and declaring "haha, you forfeit"


It's pretty much impossible to do.

You have to be playing black for a start and white has to make the following first 2 moves (doesn't matter which order)
> 1. f2-f3
> 2. g2-g4

as black your first move has to be to move your King's pawn one or two (doesn't matter which), so
> 1. ... e7-e6 or 1. ... e7-e5

and then your 2nd move to check mate is:
> 2. ... Qd8-h4++

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 1:20 am
by demigod
[quote="sully800]This is somewhat related: If you know how to do a 2 move checkmate you can make a lot of money off of people who don't believe such a thing exists.[/quote]

you don't have to give me money john1099 - but a gifted premium would be nice :lol:

Re: Classic games, australian bonus

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 1:55 am
by helmut
Shacekenhall wrote:In the classic map

It´s not fair that australia, with only one border to protect, have 2 armies from bonus,

Southamerica has two borders to protect and the weight of africa supports and western europe,

I think australia most have 1 army of bonus,

What do you thing?

Regards Shace
Just out of curiousity, what country are you from?

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 8:00 am
by Shacekenhall
sully800 wrote:
AAFitz wrote:I agree it should be changed....Also, I think boardwalk's rent is far too high...

and Aces should not be the highest cards in the deck

and the stratego men should get renumbered so that 10 is a marshal instead of a one......actually they did that, almost lost some real money on that one


Yeah, that was really confusing.

This is somewhat related: If you know how to do a 2 move checkmate you can make a lot of money off of people who don't believe such a thing exists.


Well I guess that was a nice form to say it can't be done,

Re: Classic games, australian bonus

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 8:03 am
by Shacekenhall
helmut wrote:
Shacekenhall wrote:In the classic map

It´s not fair that australia, with only one border to protect, have 2 armies from bonus,

Southamerica has two borders to protect and the weight of africa supports and western europe,

I think australia most have 1 army of bonus,

What do you thing?

Regards Shace
Just out of curiousity, what country are you from?


I guess it's clear on my profile, any problem???

And as I said, the subject about australian bonus it's over