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Postby Shacekenhall on Sat May 12, 2007 11:02 pm

In the classic map

It´s not fair that australia, with only one border to protect, have 2 armies from bonus,

Southamerica has two borders to protect and the weight of africa supports and western europe,

I think australia most have 1 army of bonus,

What do you thing?

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Postby Genghis Khan CA on Sat May 12, 2007 11:28 pm

Well it's been like that since the original board game, so it's unlikely to change...

I think it's fair overall that both are equal bonuses since both have 4 countries
and South America is in a better position strategically. From South America you can expand into Africa or North America which are easier to hold than Asia, which is the logical expansion point from Australia.

Personally I think Australia is a nicer continent to hold since it is much easier to defend, however overall I think the 2 army bonus is fair for both.
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Postby sully800 on Sat May 12, 2007 11:32 pm

Genghis Khan CA wrote:Well it's been like that since the original board game, so it's unlikely to change...

I think it's fair overall that both are equal bonuses since both have 4 countries
and South America is in a better position strategically. From South America you can expand into Africa or North America which are easier to hold than Asia, which is the logical expansion point from Australia.

Personally I think Australia is a nicer continent to hold since it is much easier to defend, however overall I think the 2 army bonus is fair for both.


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Postby Genghis Khan CA on Sat May 12, 2007 11:38 pm

No, I didn't!! :shock:

This is getting scary! :P
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Postby twinfists on Sun May 13, 2007 6:58 am

sure, australia is easy to defend, but getting out of their is mighty hard, since which ever way you go you have fast increasing numbers of boundry territories. Asia is tough to hold and that is the only direction to expand. So i think bonus of two is fair.
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Postby detlef on Sun May 13, 2007 8:02 am

Well, I'd actually rather have SA than Aussie despite the two borders, so I guess I don't think the bonus is too high. Hell, what about NA vs Europe. Europe is next to impossible to defend and is worth the same as NA. Beyond that, you can expand from NA into SA, not take on any more borders and get another 3 armies per turn (1 due to the fact that you'll be occupying another 3 territories).

So no, I don't think the bonus should be changed.
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Postby Shacekenhall on Sun May 13, 2007 5:50 pm

It's true what you say about australia,

But I guess it will be more interesting if the bonus is only 1 army, a lot of players tent to stay all the game there and let the play to others because they have a really good bonus considering the number of countries.

Well anyway just a tought

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Postby chessplaya on Sun May 13, 2007 5:52 pm

when the bonus of australia is less then 2 armies i will stop playing risk...or "CC' or whatever u want to call it

oops forgot to mention why....well its obvious when that is done the game will be so lame...
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Postby sfhbballnut on Sun May 13, 2007 7:23 pm

you can't mess with classic
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Re: Classic games, australian bonus

Postby Soloman on Sun May 13, 2007 8:46 pm

Shacekenhall wrote:In the classic map

It´s not fair that australia, with only one border to protect, have 2 armies from bonus,

Southamerica has two borders to protect and the weight of africa supports and western europe,

I think australia most have 1 army of bonus,

What do you thing?

Regards Shace
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Postby AAFitz on Sun May 13, 2007 8:51 pm

I agree it should be changed....Also, I think boardwalk's rent is far too high...

and Aces should not be the highest cards in the deck

and the stratego men should get renumbered so that 10 is a marshal instead of a one......actually they did that, almost lost some real money on that one
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Re: Classic games, australian bonus

Postby Shacekenhall on Sun May 13, 2007 9:28 pm

Soloman wrote:
Shacekenhall wrote:In the classic map

It´s not fair that australia, with only one border to protect, have 2 armies from bonus,

Southamerica has two borders to protect and the weight of africa supports and western europe,

I think australia most have 1 army of bonus,

What do you thing?

Regards Shace
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Postby Shacekenhall on Sun May 13, 2007 9:32 pm

Well,

I still think it will be nice if australia has only one army of bonus, and I realize only a 20% probably things as me.

let's keep it in the way it is right now and close this subject,

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Postby wicked on Sun May 13, 2007 10:37 pm

Then how would snifner ever win a game? :shock: :lol:
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Postby sully800 on Sun May 13, 2007 10:51 pm

AAFitz wrote:I agree it should be changed....Also, I think boardwalk's rent is far too high...

and Aces should not be the highest cards in the deck

and the stratego men should get renumbered so that 10 is a marshal instead of a one......actually they did that, almost lost some real money on that one


Yeah, that was really confusing.

This is somewhat related: If you know how to do a 2 move checkmate you can make a lot of money off of people who don't believe such a thing exists.
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Postby chewyman on Sun May 13, 2007 10:56 pm

It's already been said but I'll repeat it anyway :o

From SA you can advance into either NA or Africa with ease. From Australia you really can't do anything but advance into Asia, which is enormous and really difficult to hold. I find Aus better in no card games, but if it's flat rate or escalating then SA is still much better.
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Postby john1099 on Sun May 13, 2007 11:43 pm

sully800 wrote:
AAFitz wrote:I agree it should be changed....Also, I think boardwalk's rent is far too high...

and Aces should not be the highest cards in the deck

and the stratego men should get renumbered so that 10 is a marshal instead of a one......actually they did that, almost lost some real money on that one


Yeah, that was really confusing.

This is somewhat related: If you know how to do a 2 move checkmate you can make a lot of money off of people who don't believe such a thing exists.


How sully, tell us!



I know the one move checkmate, its picking up the opponents king, and tossing it across the room, and declaring "haha, you forfeit"
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Postby sully800 on Mon May 14, 2007 12:03 am

john1099 wrote:
sully800 wrote:
AAFitz wrote:I agree it should be changed....Also, I think boardwalk's rent is far too high...

and Aces should not be the highest cards in the deck

and the stratego men should get renumbered so that 10 is a marshal instead of a one......actually they did that, almost lost some real money on that one


Yeah, that was really confusing.

This is somewhat related: If you know how to do a 2 move checkmate you can make a lot of money off of people who don't believe such a thing exists.


How sully, tell us!

I know the one move checkmate, its picking up the opponents king, and tossing it across the room, and declaring "haha, you forfeit"


:lol:

Sorry man, that's one trick I won't just explain. Because I guarantee someone won't believe me when I say I could do a 2 move checkmate.
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Postby Coleman on Mon May 14, 2007 12:05 am

sully800 wrote:Sorry man, that's one trick I won't just explain. Because I guarantee someone won't believe me when I say I could do a 2 move checkmate.

Seen it, but your opponent kinda has to let it happen and help a bit. :roll:
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Postby snifner on Mon May 14, 2007 12:09 am

wicked wrote:Then how would snifner ever win a game? :shock: :lol:


LMAO @ wicked - I threw myself hopelessly at Australia tonight and Scott-Land kicked me off that side of the board. But somehow I still won that game somehow :P 432041

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Postby demigod on Mon May 14, 2007 1:15 am

john1099 wrote:
sully800 wrote:
AAFitz wrote:I agree it should be changed....Also, I think boardwalk's rent is far too high...

and Aces should not be the highest cards in the deck

and the stratego men should get renumbered so that 10 is a marshal instead of a one......actually they did that, almost lost some real money on that one


Yeah, that was really confusing.

This is somewhat related: If you know how to do a 2 move checkmate you can make a lot of money off of people who don't believe such a thing exists.


How sully, tell us!



I know the one move checkmate, its picking up the opponents king, and tossing it across the room, and declaring "haha, you forfeit"


It's pretty much impossible to do.

You have to be playing black for a start and white has to make the following first 2 moves (doesn't matter which order)
> 1. f2-f3
> 2. g2-g4

as black your first move has to be to move your King's pawn one or two (doesn't matter which), so
> 1. ... e7-e6 or 1. ... e7-e5

and then your 2nd move to check mate is:
> 2. ... Qd8-h4++
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Postby demigod on Mon May 14, 2007 1:20 am

[quote="sully800]This is somewhat related: If you know how to do a 2 move checkmate you can make a lot of money off of people who don't believe such a thing exists.[/quote]

you don't have to give me money john1099 - but a gifted premium would be nice :lol:
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Re: Classic games, australian bonus

Postby helmut on Mon May 14, 2007 1:55 am

Shacekenhall wrote:In the classic map

It´s not fair that australia, with only one border to protect, have 2 armies from bonus,

Southamerica has two borders to protect and the weight of africa supports and western europe,

I think australia most have 1 army of bonus,

What do you thing?

Regards Shace
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Postby Shacekenhall on Mon May 14, 2007 8:00 am

sully800 wrote:
AAFitz wrote:I agree it should be changed....Also, I think boardwalk's rent is far too high...

and Aces should not be the highest cards in the deck

and the stratego men should get renumbered so that 10 is a marshal instead of a one......actually they did that, almost lost some real money on that one


Yeah, that was really confusing.

This is somewhat related: If you know how to do a 2 move checkmate you can make a lot of money off of people who don't believe such a thing exists.


Well I guess that was a nice form to say it can't be done,
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Re: Classic games, australian bonus

Postby Shacekenhall on Mon May 14, 2007 8:03 am

helmut wrote:
Shacekenhall wrote:In the classic map

It´s not fair that australia, with only one border to protect, have 2 armies from bonus,

Southamerica has two borders to protect and the weight of africa supports and western europe,

I think australia most have 1 army of bonus,

What do you thing?

Regards Shace
Just out of curiousity, what country are you from?


I guess it's clear on my profile, any problem???

And as I said, the subject about australian bonus it's over
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