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Postby texta on Sun May 06, 2007 7:49 pm

I know we have to declare alliances in game chat, but is it cheating to suggest them to other members by PM?
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Postby wicked on Sun May 06, 2007 7:52 pm

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Alliance per PM

Postby DavidLawrence on Mon May 07, 2007 2:10 am

An alliance per PM would be a "Secret Alliance" which is cheating...is it not?

Unless you mean testing the water with players and then declaring the alliance which I suppose would be acceptable.

I did this once when I atarted but then never again. Partially because I got very negative responses and while I think that PMs have nothing to do with the game...they are PERSONAL.

If you need a team to win there is TEAMCHAT...If it doesnt work in your game then there are no teams...no teams means only one can win...If only one can win, any form of alliance is LOGICALY nonsensical.

SO: Using the PM to form SECRET ALLIANCES is CHEATING.



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Postby SirSebstar on Mon May 07, 2007 2:49 am

I am very glad your first post is correcting Wicked...lol
eh seriously, think before you post, moderators pretty much dicatate the law.
a.k.a. whatever your personal feelings, sending pm´s to test the water for an alliance is acceptable under gamelaw

Ofcourse you can always put someone who does it on your ignore list....
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Postby alster on Mon May 07, 2007 3:16 am

SirSebstar wrote:I am very glad your first post is correcting Wicked...lol
eh seriously, think before you post, moderators pretty much dicatate the law.
a.k.a. whatever your personal feelings, sending pm´s to test the water for an alliance is acceptable under gamelaw

Ofcourse you can always put someone who does it on your ignore list....


I concur.

Must say that I almost spit out my morning coffee when reading the post correcting Wicked... :D
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Re: Alliance per PM

Postby Captain Crash on Mon May 07, 2007 4:44 am

wicked wrote:no
DavidLawrence wrote:An alliance per PM would be a "Secret Alliance" which is cheating...is it not?

Unless you mean testing the water with players and then declaring the alliance which I suppose would be acceptable.

I did this once when I atarted but then never again. Partially because I got very negative responses and while I think that PMs have nothing to do with the game...they are PERSONAL.

If you need a team to win there is TEAMCHAT...If it doesnt work in your game then there are no teams...no teams means only one can win...If only one can win, any form of alliance is LOGICALY nonsensical.

SO: Using the PM to form SECRET ALLIANCES is CHEATING.



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David

What part of 'no' do you not understand: The 'n' or the 'o'?

That obvious question aside, alliance inquiry via pm is normally considered VERY poor form, even tho' technically ok.



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Re: Alliance per PM

Postby MeDeFe on Mon May 07, 2007 7:25 am

Captain Crash wrote:alliance inquiry via pm is normally considered VERY poor form, even tho' technically ok.



I agree 100% with that.
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Postby DavidLawrence on Wed May 09, 2007 6:18 pm

For all those who have suffered incontinence with thier morning coffees, I apologise but:

"I know we have to declare alliances in game chat, but is it cheating to suggest them to other members by PM?"

is not a simple question.

The wuestion nugget in this sentence is:

"is it cheating to suggest (them)...by PM"

we have to check what them is:

them= "alliances"

That he knows he has to declares aliances does give you guys some credit however.

But it is not implicit!

Therefore a simple "NO" answer could be missinterpreted or missleading.

Example:

"I know it wrong to to kill someone; but is it wrong in self-defense"

to SIMPLY answer "NO" maywell lead to all sorts of dificulties without defining it abit more.

I SIMPLY defined it a bit more. Not critisising or ignoring wicked WETHER HE BE GOD OR NOT.

Simply expanding the question and its implications and expressing my own opinions to the fact: Much in the spirit of a FORUM.

Perhaps a little thought on you guys behalf before replying would have helped to understand to sense of my reply...even if it is my FIRST POST which also has nothing to do with the fact; its not like Ive just learned to write!

Seriously, with discusion art like that...youll bring a conversation quickly o a halt...and most people just wont bother talking anyfurther to you...leading to solitude and misery...

Be nice :-)
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Postby hecter on Wed May 09, 2007 6:20 pm

wicked is a she!!!!
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Using the PM to form SECRET ALLIANCES is CHEATING.

Postby DavidLawrence on Wed May 09, 2007 6:24 pm

...and I repeat my statement to avoid obvious confusion:

Using the PM to form SECRET ALLIANCES is CHEATING.

...which most likely WICKED will confirm!
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Postby oVo on Wed May 09, 2007 6:48 pm

If you would like to suggest an alliance?
<Sam Kinison voice> DO IT IN THE GAME CHAT! </Sam Kinison voice>

PM the person in question and ask them to
<Sam Kinison voice> READ THE GAME CHAT! </Sam Kinison voice>
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