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Respecting the Rank?

Posted:
Tue May 01, 2007 12:05 pm
by Black Bear
I don't know i considered the rank just a sign of experience, but we are not in the army but which of you choose to follow the indication of a bigger rank player? I personally do, makes you the veteran!


Posted:
Tue May 01, 2007 12:20 pm
by cosmin
i sometimes listen to much higher ranked players, but all the times i try to take over the "boss" title and command my partners to do what i think its best.
and it worked so far.


Posted:
Tue May 01, 2007 12:22 pm
by Black Bear
I can admit that you are one son of a bitch who knows how to play!
no

Posted:
Tue May 01, 2007 12:24 pm
by Georgerx7di
rank is not just a sign of experience. There are players on here who have played 700 games and are privates, seargents and LT's. There are other players who have 105 games and are colonels. Rank means your a better player most of the time. Or your a cheater, in which case they usually get caught at some point. It could also mean that your just good at dubs and trips, but usually those guys are good at real games too.

Posted:
Tue May 01, 2007 12:27 pm
by Black Bear
Here you are right but what about newbies who advance quickly threw the ranks, how do you call that?
Re: no

Posted:
Tue May 01, 2007 12:28 pm
by GrazingCattle
Georgerx7di wrote:rank is not just a sign of experience. There are players on here who have played 700 games and are privates, seargents and LT's. There are other players who have 105 games and are colonels. Rank means your a better player most of the time. Or your a cheater, in which case they usually get caught at some point. It could also mean that your just good at dubs and trips, but usually those guys are good at real games too.
I play a mixture of both but I joined alot of single tourneys lately and the competition is tough. I hope I break even as far as points go!

Posted:
Tue May 01, 2007 12:32 pm
by ronaldlcoleman
Forget rank. You should listen to people who have the Schrödinger equation as an avatar. Of course other equations are cool too.
Stay in school

Posted:
Tue May 01, 2007 1:11 pm
by freezie
Luck beeing a big factor on risk, it's not ALWAYS the higher ranked players who are the best.
Some also cheats, and some abbuse the points system.
On the other end, some new recruits played RISK for years before coming on CC, and probably know more than some veterans here.
The rank shouldn't be the only thing to check when choosing who's indication to follow. Only your intelligence, intuition, coordination with your team and crystal ball should be the bases of your decisions.

Posted:
Tue May 01, 2007 1:17 pm
by firth4eva
cosmin wrote:i sometimes listen to much higher ranked players, but all the times i try to take over the "boss" title and command my partners to do what i think its best.

and it worked so far.

Im currently bossing a 17 year old around in a game of doubles.
he listens to what i say all of the time and asks me what to do next. I am only 14

Posted:
Tue May 01, 2007 1:22 pm
by Molacole
look at clappers rank it sucks! I've played in a few games with him/her and he/she is definitely a solid player. I've never seen him/her make a poor move that made me understand why his/her rank was so low.
Some of the best people on this site have low ranks while others who aren't so good focus their games around increasing their score instead of looking for more challenging games...
The best way to find out a players skill level is to play with or against them and see how they play...

Posted:
Tue May 01, 2007 1:47 pm
by mibi
noobs listen when I speak.
I listen when majors, colonels, generals speak.
this has been my experience.
y

Posted:
Tue May 01, 2007 3:18 pm
by Georgerx7di
hell yeah ron. I can't see your equation, you have to make it bigger.
As for the comments about luck. If we all play 2 games, then the highest rank would be based on luck. After everyone play 100 games, rank has much less to do with it. As far as clapper, she is a major you are a private. Of course you wont understand the mistakes she makes. When you are better then her, then you will know which of her moves are mistakes. At each level in anything, your mistakes are smaller. When a major makes a mistake, it is not going to be something so bad that a private would have seen it to be a mistake. If you can fix your mistakes, you get better. If you made no mistakes, then you would be perfect. People of a given rank usually make the same types of mistakes, and if you fix them then you will move up to the next rank. Then you will make mistakes that are harder to find, and when you find and fix them, you will move up again.

Posted:
Tue May 01, 2007 3:30 pm
by joeyjordison
high ranking players should be respected for their rank. experienced people and prominent members of the forum should also be respected. having said this i don't think that someone should side with someone purely on rank. rank shows skills of play, date joined shows experience of the site, games played verses score shows experience of the game, useful forum posts shows good people. all things should be taken into account but u shouldn't kiss any1's ass just cos they are a colonel and u r a private.

Posted:
Tue May 01, 2007 3:32 pm
by kalishnikov
From the experience I've had with a lot of the higher ranking players on this site, most often it's not that they are significantly better players, they know how to work the system and get their ranks kigh and keep them there.
SOME of them (not all) only seek out games that are almost an assured win or ones where they don't risk many points.
I just wish more of the higher ranks would take some time to show us "newbies" the ropes, or give us tips to help us improve our games instead of bashing us and making us feel unwelcome.
The only real comradery I've found so far has been a few other privates who play to have fun, not for the points. On the other hand, the only thing I've gotten from experienced players is put-downs and unwelcome sentiments.
So far it seems the higher the rank is, the less affable the person is.

Posted:
Tue May 01, 2007 3:45 pm
by joeyjordison
kalishnikov wrote:From the experience I've had with a lot of the higher ranking players on this site, most often it's not that they are significantly better players, they know how to work the system and get their ranks kigh and keep them there.
SOME of them (not all) only seek out games that are almost an assured win or ones where they don't risk many points.
I just wish more of the higher ranks would take some time to show us "newbies" the ropes, or give us tips to help us improve our games instead of bashing us and making us feel unwelcome.
The only real comradery I've found so far has been a few other privates who play to have fun, not for the points. On the other hand, the only thing I've gotten from experienced players is put-downs and unwelcome sentiments.
So far it seems the higher the rank is, the less affable the person is.
i can see where u r coming from. i'm not boasting about my skill but i don't really play team games which most use to get points and i just play whatever game type i feel like really. i don't play the system in any way and when i was new i realised that higher ranked people needed to teach the lower ranks so i had some free time a while back and set up a training scheme for people who wanted help. i've also done a low rankers tourny.
i would do more but i'm pretty busy most of the time. there are some people though who do a lot of work helping people whether its playing games or answering questions in the forums
Re: y

Posted:
Tue May 01, 2007 3:45 pm
by tahitiwahini
Georgerx7di wrote:As far as clapper, she is a major you are a private. Of course you wont understand the mistakes she makes. When you are better then her, then you will know which of her moves are mistakes. At each level in anything, your mistakes are smaller. When a major makes a mistake, it is not going to be something so bad that a private would have seen it to be a mistake. If you can fix your mistakes, you get better. If you made no mistakes, then you would be perfect. People of a given rank usually make the same types of mistakes, and if you fix them then you will move up to the next rank. Then you will make mistakes that are harder to find, and when you find and fix them, you will move up again.
Can't argue with this. Very true!
kal

Posted:
Tue May 01, 2007 3:50 pm
by Georgerx7di
kalishnikov
From the experience I've had with a lot of the higher ranking players on this site, most often it's not that they are significantly better players, they know how to work the system and get their ranks kigh and keep them there.
He's played 15 games.
Re: y

Posted:
Tue May 01, 2007 4:10 pm
by ConquererKing
Georgerx7di wrote:hell yeah ron. I can't see your equation, you have to make it bigger.
As for the comments about luck. If we all play 2 games, then the highest rank would be based on luck. After everyone play 100 games, rank has much less to do with it. As far as clapper, she is a major you are a private. Of course you wont understand the mistakes she makes. When you are better then her, then you will know which of her moves are mistakes. At each level in anything, your mistakes are smaller. When a major makes a mistake, it is not going to be something so bad that a private would have seen it to be a mistake. If you can fix your mistakes, you get better. If you made no mistakes, then you would be perfect. People of a given rank usually make the same types of mistakes, and if you fix them then you will move up to the next rank. Then you will make mistakes that are harder to find, and when you find and fix them, you will move up again.
Ah but that's the thing - Molacole was a colonel a few days a go, one of the top of the scoreboard. And then he was complaining about wanting his score reset and next I see he is a private...

Posted:
Tue May 01, 2007 4:14 pm
by Georgerx7di
I though I saw molacole somewhere before. I checked and he was a private, so I thought that I remembered wrong. Either way, the player who makes the least mistakes wins more often.
I am sorry if I offended you molacole.
Re: y

Posted:
Tue May 01, 2007 4:17 pm
by Molacole
Georgerx7di wrote:hell yeah ron. I can't see your equation, you have to make it bigger.
As for the comments about luck. If we all play 2 games, then the highest rank would be based on luck. After everyone play 100 games, rank has much less to do with it. As far as clapper, she is a major you are a private. Of course you wont understand the mistakes she makes. When you are better then her, then you will know which of her moves are mistakes. At each level in anything, your mistakes are smaller. When a major makes a mistake, it is not going to be something so bad that a private would have seen it to be a mistake. If you can fix your mistakes, you get better. If you made no mistakes, then you would be perfect. People of a given rank usually make the same types of mistakes, and if you fix them then you will move up to the next rank. Then you will make mistakes that are harder to find, and when you find and fix them, you will move up again.
no need to patronize me while you've just about got colonel status. I'll explain so my point makes better sense.
if you took the top 3 colonels and put them up against the 3 top captains of this site in a triples game the colonels could win 2 out of 3 games and still lose points...
The way it works is the higher your apponents are ranked the faster your points will go up.
mol

Posted:
Tue May 01, 2007 4:30 pm
by Georgerx7di
Well it's not my fault you wanted to be a private. Besides, i earned my points in standard games, I guess that's why I think rank matters.
Re: mol

Posted:
Tue May 01, 2007 6:17 pm
by tahitiwahini
Georgerx7di wrote:Well it's not my fault you wanted to be a private. Besides, i earned my points in standard games, I guess that's why I think rank matters.
Thrust. Twist. Add salt to taste.


Posted:
Tue May 01, 2007 8:51 pm
by Whiteberry
freezie wrote: On the other end, some new recruits played RISK for years before coming on CC, and probably know more than some veterans here.
Your observation is correct. As for myself, I was playing the board game Risk for many years before a lot of Conquer Club players were even born. I then played Risk on my son's Nintendo against computer players. In recent years I played Risk on a Hasbro Interactive computer game again against computer players. When I found Conquer Club I was thrilled to be able to play this game, that I've been addicted to for the past 35 years, against other on-line players. Long live Conquer Club!
Re: mol

Posted:
Tue May 01, 2007 8:55 pm
by Robinette
tahitiwahini wrote:Georgerx7di wrote:Well it's not my fault you wanted to be a private. Besides, i earned my points in standard games, I guess that's why I think rank matters.
Thrust. Twist. Add salt to taste.

hee hee...

Posted:
Tue May 01, 2007 9:21 pm
by Coleman
My rank would be a lot higher if I didn't play so many games just for fun. I'm not someone who necessarily thinks winning is the only way to have fun in these games. My play really reflects how serious I think the room is, if it is more laid back I tend to be more laid back. If nobody is talking then the real Coleman shows up and kicks ass.
But on topic, I usually listen to the higher ranked players, even though I've played more games then most of them. However, sometimes they tell me really stupid things. If you expect me to blow a chance to break a continent in no cards you're out of your damned mind.