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DCR/KA, What a bunch of fuggin' horse shit

Postby Gen.LeeGettinhed on Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:26 am

CC Admin (yes, you know who you are) and Global Mods are a bunch of liars and a spineless lynch-mob,

While on sabatical, I asked a clanmate's help getting this (originally drafted/posted 7/14/12):

. . .to KingAchilles and Deathcomesrippin. DCR claims to have provided me with an explanation before posting it in C&A but I was traveling for 1.5 days came back and STILL cannot see my inbox (8/14/12). Now I'll share it with all of CC:

RESPONSE TO "DCR EXPLANATION OF GLG BAN":
1)you did NOT explain to GLG until that was posted. if you sent a PM, I was traveling, then banned so I never read it. It is STILL NOT in my inbox either.
2)wtF does "we will see if it is ok with everyone" mean? What total BS. I returned, was banned and the Agreers mostly chimed it -- as expected.
3)Ranching: let's be clear, it's PLAYING lower level ranks. Farming was playing, not just inviting. so your logic is flawed again.
4)"abusing the game by purposefully inviting people". Here logic is flawed again. I USED to set up games and verbally invite people to join them. In the C&A in question THEY created the games and I JOINED. HUGE difference.
5)"no experience with certain settings to guarantee a win." wrong again, look up the word GUARANTEED. people ALWAYS have a chance, especially with CC's "random dice". CM minimizes the impact of faulty random strings of dice.
6)"create the games" logic flaw/stupidity: Opponents CREATED the games, I did not
7)"private matches": logic flaw; they are 1v1 games. wtF difference did it being PRIVATE have with this? Private with a password prevented other people that the CREATOR didn't want to play from joining a game that they AGREED to play with me.
"under the guise of limiting losses", no guise, it was 100% to MINIMIZE losses -- see last WWII Eur game/loss. and since when is having the self control to not jump into games with risk of losing more than I want against any rule?
9)"a gross abuse of our gaming system" I was warned that CREATING private games for poor "targets to join" was a gross abuse; this is DIFFERENT. THEY CREATED the game, and KNEW what the settings were going to be. Maybe before some weren't careful and didn't check (wanted fast game), but Caveat Emptor.
10)"invite them under the guise of education" to claim that ALL or MOST of my games employed this is an outright LIE. SOMETIMES I would offer to show them what I knew, but to say "guise of education" is an exaggeration and LIE.
11)"it was decided" shows to me that YOU did not decide and that your group of buddies collectively decided that my last 6-7 games were the same as several 100's before. Again, flawed logic: all above Private as warned, I joined games opponents created, I didn't create the game.
12) "I won't tolerate any flaming, baiting, or anything of the sort." you say that then allow people to do it and lock it yup, INSTEAD of warning/banning offenders. Amazingly you lock it up before the accused can rebut any of your BS.

1 or 2 of those I could discount as less than intelligent thinking. 12 comes across as very sloppy vindictive interpretations by a lynch mob. This was a SLOPPY post/punishment made by a bunch of angry/jealous people that haven't any idea how difficult it is to get to #1.

The BIGGEST falsehood in all of this is KA's use of MALICIOUS in the original warning. It was prudent, careful play, NOT abusing anyone or any system. Especially when CAPTAINS were played lately and 2 people posted they weren't abused. The first posted by himself, the second I asked to post positively and he did.

So let's have a REAL discussion -- without all the repeated flames/baits from the peanut gallery,

wtF, GLG

* * * * * DCR POSTED EXPLANATION
Re: Gen.LeeGettinhed [Banned] DCR
by deathcomesrippin on Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:06 pm

I apologize. I did not explain to anyone apart from GLG why he was given a ban. I will now, and we will see if it is ok with everyone. I am also going to unlock the thread, allow for people to post their (respectful) thoughts and comments, and attempt to answer them as much as I can.

Gen.LeeGettinhed was banned for 1 month as per the situation guidelines for Gross Abuse of Game, which is a major offence. The unofficial term for the particular problem is "Ranching". Simply speaking, it is the case of someone abusing the game by purposefully inviting people who have no experience with certain settings to guarantee a win.

Now, it isn't the fact that he is making these games that resulted in this. It is the fact that he would purposely seek out players with little to no experience on the maps, create the games, and invite them to private matches. This was under the guise of limiting losses, but regardless of the reason, it is still a gross abuse of our gaming system. People will say other players do this. Other players will start games, multiple ones, on maps that they are good at. I myself start 10+ Poland games whenever I get the urge to, as I feel it is my strongest map. But they do not purposely hunt down players who don't understand the maps and invite them under the guise of education, whether there was education or not. Again, this is abusing our system. After examining the situation, it was decided that this indeed did qualify as a Gross Abuse, and the infraction was handed down as per our guidelines. Any questions or comments (within reason), feel free to post in here. The same rules I posted earlier apply though: I won't tolerate any flaming, baiting, or anything of the sort. Keep the remarks clean. Thank you.
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Re: DCR/KA, What a bunch of fuggin' horse shit

Postby Gen.LeeGettinhed on Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:29 am

yo DCR or one of your GM buddies,

Why don't you DO something about the baiters/flamers that just gotta mouth off on this thread?
- You never did much to those that baited/flamed on the last C&A or post-C&A Gen Discussion threads
- you just allowed them to open up a new Discussion thread with more anti-GLG BS after you said "C&A thread closed"

. . .and calling you and CC admin "liars and spineless lynch-mob" isn't baiting/flaming if/cause it's true.


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Re: DCR/KA, What a bunch of fuggin' horse shit

Postby Mr Changsha on Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:07 am

It was an absolutely disgraceful episode in CC's history. I've argued for years that the changes made with with regards to farming back then would result in the kind of slippery slope 'morality accusations' we now see far too often in C&A threads. Those changes may have made farming more difficult, but they allowed some of the more insidious, envious, small-minded little bastards that frequent these forums a field day. It seems now that such types are also actually handing down the rulings, rather than merely bitching from the sidelines.

There must be this basic principle: every player here is responsible for their own game selections.

Further, it is up to the site to limit the availability of certain games to certain players, not for us as players to have to make 'moral considerations' with regard to game selection, or censor our opponents to fit in with CC's latest I'll-thought out guidelines.

Instead we have an environment in which no doubt dozens of individuals are actively looking for wrong doing of a 'moral' nature, to prosecute in the C&A forum. Whether it is 'ratings abuse' (for fucks sake), bigotry (grow a pair in 99 percent of cases is the correct response), secret alliances (invariably bad sportsmanship on the part of the accuser), farming and ranching (more often than not the thread is an excuse to continue a clan or individual feud), password abuse (ditto)...the unifying factor is a microscopically-minded jealous, nosy little sodom determined to get their cheap thrill.

I don't blame these chaps really. CC actively encouraged this kind of environment to develop...people like this are everywhere, it is the responsibility of the authorities to keep them in their boxes. Instead they have a huge voice here, much to the detriment of the site.
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Re: DCR/KA, What a bunch of fuggin' horse shit

Postby Victor Sullivan on Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:41 am

Well, I guess some things haven't changed... :mrgreen:

Do I need to give you my rant again, dearie?

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Re: DCR/KA, What a bunch of fuggin' horse shit

Postby Dibbun on Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:50 am

Problem is that you have lots of shitbirds who see that Conqueror title and think you're fair game for their lies and insinuations. Poor show by CC mods and admins on this one.

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Re: DCR/KA, What a bunch of fuggin' horse shit

Postby chang50 on Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:38 am

Disgraceful is about right,lets hear from others who were outraged by this pathetic ruling.The sherrif aint supposed to side with the lynch mob.
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Re: DCR/KA, What a bunch of fuggin' horse shit

Postby tkr4lf on Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:52 am

Ugh, this again? Who cares? You're old news, GLG.

Just accept that the majority of the community finds your style of gaming to be abuse of the system and change your ways. If you're as good as you say you are, then you can reach Conqueror again without even playing on CM. Then everything will be fine.

Until then, you could just stop the whining and deal with it like a man. Ok? Thanks!
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Re: DCR/KA, What a bunch of fuggin' horse shit

Postby Gen.LeeGettinhed on Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:42 am

tkr4lf wrote:Ugh, this again? Who cares? You're old news, GLG.

Just accept that the majority of the community finds your style of gaming to be abuse of the system and change your ways. If you're as good as you say you are, then you can reach Conqueror again without even playing on CM. Then everything will be fine.

Until then, you could just stop the whining and deal with it like a man. Ok? Thanks!


"the MAJORITY"?, total BS. MAYBE. . .the "majority of whiners who want a gladiating Conqueror and gotta be so negative in Forums", but NOT the majority of Cc players:
-the MAJORITY don't care, hence relatively few posters
-usually only negative people post -- so your math on Majority is skewed dearie
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Re: DCR/KA, What a bunch of fuggin' horse shit

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:50 am

Ahoy GLG,

I'm glad you managed to save your pent up energy. Congrats on your release(s).


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Re: DCR/KA, What a bunch of fuggin' horse shit

Postby QoH on Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:08 am

tkr4lf wrote:Ugh, this again? Who cares? You're old news, GLG.

Just accept that the majority of the community finds your style of gaming to be abuse of the system and change your ways. If you're as good as you say you are, then you can reach Conqueror again without even playing on CM. Then everything will be fine.

Until then, you could just stop the whining and deal with it like a man. Ok? Thanks!

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Re: DCR/KA, What a bunch of fuggin' horse shit

Postby Campin_Killer on Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:10 am

tkr4lf wrote:Ugh, this again? Who cares? You're old news, GLG.

Just accept that the majority of the community finds your style of gaming to be abuse of the system and change your ways. If you're as good as you say you are, then you can reach Conqueror again without even playing on CM. Then everything will be fine.

Until then, you could just stop the whining and deal with it like a man. Ok? Thanks!



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GLG has a few options here:

1. Continue to whine like a little girl
2. Prove he's actually as good as he says he is
3. Stop caring about rank and just play because
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Re: DCR/KA, What a bunch of fuggin' horse shit

Postby chang50 on Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:11 am

QoH wrote:
tkr4lf wrote:Ugh, this again? Who cares? You're old news, GLG.

Just accept that the majority of the community finds your style of gaming to be abuse of the system and change your ways. If you're as good as you say you are, then you can reach Conqueror again without even playing on CM. Then everything will be fine.

Until then, you could just stop the whining and deal with it like a man. Ok? Thanks!

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Re: DCR/KA, What a bunch of fuggin' horse shit

Postby tkr4lf on Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:13 am

chang50 wrote:
QoH wrote:
tkr4lf wrote:Ugh, this again? Who cares? You're old news, GLG.

Just accept that the majority of the community finds your style of gaming to be abuse of the system and change your ways. If you're as good as you say you are, then you can reach Conqueror again without even playing on CM. Then everything will be fine.

Until then, you could just stop the whining and deal with it like a man. Ok? Thanks!

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Re: DCR/KA, What a bunch of fuggin' horse shit

Postby lord voldemort on Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:42 am

Be thankful you didn't get a point reset...Your game play and the way you go about getting points is a disgrace and you never deserved to be a conqueror.

You have always done it..And if you claim you didn't do it or didn't know it was coming you're either naive or just stupid.
Sure the admin of cc could of done more to perhaps stop it earlier or perhaps even been better in the way they banned you (I can't speak to that) But you deserve every bit of punishment you got...And perhaps more.
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Re: DCR/KA, What a bunch of fuggin' horse shit

Postby Gen.LeeGettinhed on Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:07 am

So far I see a few supports and several general "you deserved it". I do NOT see any good rebuttals of the dozen points I made. Just goes to show lynch-mod mentality and no logic to it.
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Re: DCR/KA, What a bunch of fuggin' horse shit

Postby lord voldemort on Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:11 am

Its because your points are bad and invalid...
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Re: DCR/KA, What a bunch of fuggin' horse shit

Postby The Voice on Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:11 pm

If it makes you feel any better, your buddy CoF received a ban.
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Re: DCR/KA, What a bunch of fuggin' horse shit

Postby hmsps on Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:19 pm

Good to see you back, has your imposed sabbatical taught you anything? =D>
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Re: DCR/KA, What a bunch of fuggin' horse shit

Postby deathcomesrippin on Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:29 pm

hmsps wrote:Good to see you back, has your imposed sabbatical taught you anything? =D>


Gonna go with no on this one.
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Re: DCR/KA, What a bunch of fuggin' horse shit

Postby Dibbun on Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:29 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Ahoy GLG,

I'm glad you managed to save your pent up energy. Congrats on your release(s).


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Wow what a flippant attitude.
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Re: DCR/KA, What a bunch of fuggin' horse shit

Postby Victor Sullivan on Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:30 pm

Dibbun wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:Ahoy GLG,

I'm glad you managed to save your pent up energy. Congrats on your release(s).


--Andy


Wow what a flippant attitude.

Wait, wait, wait, can I get a moderator to look at this? Is Andy trolling?

*chuckle*

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Re: DCR/KA, What a bunch of fuggin' horse shit

Postby hmsps on Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:32 pm

deathcomesrippin wrote:
hmsps wrote:Good to see you back, has your imposed sabbatical taught you anything? =D>


Gonna go with no on this one.
he did say we could ask reasonable questions tho
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Re: DCR/KA, What a bunch of fuggin' horse shit

Postby Dako on Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:02 pm

GLG - what is the point of this thread? Disband C&A team? Get a "I am sorry we were wrong" from C&A? Fire KA from his job?

Anyway, I have an insult for you. I will not rebutt your glorious 12 points you have made. I will just say that you are a moron and you have to use your head more often.
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Re: DCR/KA, What a bunch of fuggin' horse shit

Postby Dibbun on Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:47 pm

Dako wrote:GLG - what is the point of this thread? Disband C&A team? Get a "I am sorry we were wrong" from C&A? Fire KA from his job?

Anyway, I have an insult for you. I will not rebutt your glorious 12 points you have made. I will just say that you are a moron and you have to use your head more often.


Did you post this or was it CoF on your account?

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Re: DCR/KA, What a bunch of fuggin' horse shit

Postby Gen.LeeGettinhed on Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:19 pm

Dako wrote:GLG - what is the point of this thread? Disband C&A team? Get a "I am sorry we were wrong" from C&A? Fire KA from his job?


Point of thread:
1) to let the punished rebutt the terrible outcome made 1 month ago
2) YES, let's disband the C&A team -- in it's ENTIRETY and get a REASONABLE group, not some puppets of The LynchMob
3) YES, let's replace KA -- but that should have happened with the stupid-ass "warning" given and prior C&A "ruling"
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