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Speed Games - Lightening wins

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:23 pm
by Wizard2010
All,

I think I may have to give up at playing speed games.

More and more frequently, freestyle speed games are over before I even get the cue to play my troops. It's not as though I'm on a slow wireless (at a university with fast internet), but as you can imagine, it's very frustrating. These games primarily are multi-player (5 or more), Freestyle on Doodle and Luxembourg maps.

Do higher ranks have less lag? That's who seems to always win! lol

Re: Speed Games - Lightening wins

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:30 pm
by SimplyObsessed
Wizard2010 wrote:Do higher ranks have less lag? That's who seems to always win! lol

Higher ranks win more? SHOCKER :o

Re: Speed Games - Lightening wins

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:33 pm
by Wizard2010
Thanks for the valuable input Simply

Re: Speed Games - Lightening wins

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:36 pm
by SimplyObsessed
You're welcome :)

Re: Speed Games - Lightening wins

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:09 pm
by sherkaner
I'm not a freestyle player, I've never gotten into it. But freestyle speed players really try to keep their lag to a minimum. So it could be true, though you are from the USA so I think you shouldn't have much lag yourself.

Re: Speed Games - Lightening wins

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:14 pm
by AndyDufresne
If you feel you are disadvantaged speed wise...perhaps look into Trench Warfare. It helps at least reduce the speed factor (though it still exists and can still burn you in some cases).


--Andy

Re: Speed Games - Lightening wins

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:33 am
by siddify
There are things you can do to be better at speed freestyle games. First of all, use firefox and install clickable maps greasemonkey script (viewtopic.php?f=526&t=116987). Second, freestyle has gameplay strategy unique to itself that you need to learn. An example of this is you need to know when you can end early and when you can't...and always try and start your turn as quickly as possible. I would say most of the important moves that happen in a freestyle game occur within the first 5 seconds of a turn or the last 15 seconds (if you're playing someone who's any good). Lag is bad, obviously, so if you consistently lag, you should probably not play freestyle speeders too much.

Anyway, beyond that, learning a map well is a good idea for freestyle. Some common freestyle maps to learn for 1v1 games are Feudal War and Feudal Epic, New World, Oasis, WWII Poland, City Mogul among others. Other maps are commonly used for freestyle, but don't require much map knowledge, such as Luxembourg, Doodle Earth and Classic.

Andy's right in that Trench Warfare slows down the freestyle game somewhat because you are limited in your attacking and expansion capabilities. However, that does not change the need for speed at points in those games. An example of this is Game 10959115. I won the game because I was able to capture 2 territories (completing the objectives for the map) before douitashimashite could take my territory even though he had far more troops than I did.

The last thing I'd say about your original post is to observe that you must be playing 8-player doodle or lux assassin games, probably with manual deployment (started by KingRat, more than likely). Those games are frequently over before everyone deploys troops. That all depends on drop and dice. I would recommend playing standard freestyle games if you want to get your feet under you before the game is over. Just my opinion, of course. Those assassin games can be very addicting because you get a ton of points if you can win...but you need to get drop and dice AND be very fast to do it. Even the best freestylers have low win % in those settings because it relies so heavily on luck.

Anyway, this is probably more than you wanted... Happy freestyling!