excellent post natty. consider it "liked".
natty dread wrote:beersurfer wrote:natty dread wrote:beersurfer wrote:none of this website is original conception ... it is all stolen and reused ...
Oh well that's good to know! Thanks! I didn't know I had stolen any of the 9 maps I've made for this site, but apparently you know better! Thanks for setting me straight on that!
where did you even come up with ideas for maps? and how did you approach your design ... did it have anything to do with what others had done before you?
you tell me what maps you made and i'll show you what maps you took your concepts from in order to make it work on this site ... and that is exactly what i mean by "
it is all stolen and reused" ...
someone else created this game ... and this website profits from their creation .. and you help promote them and dont even get reimbursed or compensated for your time or artwork while the owners make bank off the paying members and advertisements ...
While it is certainly true that CC gameplay is largely based on a known boardgame, arguably a lot of maps on CC are so far removed from the original gameplay mechanics of said boardgame that they can no longer be said to be the same game.
Yes, all CC maps work within a certain gameplay framework, which includes troops that assault other troops with dice. So ask yourself this - how many games are there which use a) troops that assault other troops and b) dice? I'd estimate it to be around a metric shitton. Are all of those games copies of some other game? Which of them is the original? Who knows.
There's no thing in existence which can claim complete originality. Whatever you create, it has to lean on existing concepts, to provide a frame of reference for it - for example, if you write a poem, it makes no sense unless you use an existing language and alphabet which other people can understand. If you write a song, it leans on existing ideas of musical scales, chords, rhytms, etc. You couldn't create a computer game if someone hadn't invented the computer years ago, and someone else hadn't though of playing games on computers...
In that vein, your argument that this website, or indeed the maps created for playing on this website are "stolen" is nonsensical at best (and at worst, insulting to all the people who spend months of their time to create the maps you also enjoy playing here). Sure, all of those maps use dice, and troops that assault other troops. So do a million other games. And sure, maybe we could create a game that didn't use troops or dice but instead there would be sentient cauliflowers that used 12-dimensional fractal algorithms or whatever, but that wouldn't make sense to most players.
In short, your argument makes as much sense as claiming that chess stole the idea from tic-tac-toe.
i like the way you focus on specific points while avoiding the direct questions i asked you and then generalizing the world as a whole to reiterate your moot point
i said stolen and reused .. so yes "reused" is the term you should be focused on ... the website did the stealing while you reused others concepts ... my main point was that you get no compensation for your effort while the website gains profit from it ... maybe you can use -- 'making 9 maps on conquerclub' for your resume ...
In short, your argument makes as much sense as claiming that chess stole the idea from tic-tac-toe.
are you that dense? ... please start over with your overdramatic avoidance of what is really at hand here
if you did not play on this site why would you make maps ??? ... still haven't heard an answer to that ... while you talk in circles of the world as a whole ... im talking about this website ONLY ...
So do a million other games
really a million other games use dice and armies to conquer the world ?? if you can name 1 thousand of those ... better yet .. 100 of those ... then i will not make another comment
ANSWER THE QUESTION GENIUS
While it is certainly true that CC gameplay is largely based on a known boardgame, arguably a lot of maps on CC are so far removed from the original gameplay mechanics of said boardgame that they can no longer be said to be the same game.
have you ever played online Risk by hasbro? ... have you seen all the maps they have? ... do you not think most maps on this site are reiterations of those maps on the hasbro website???
im not going to argue that some maps are so far removed they dont really qualify ... and ill agree ... and all those cheesy maps are what ruins this site ... and those cheesy maps are also what skew the ranks of honest players ... farmers can use all those bullshit maps to pawn noobs and become conqueror ... which is completely opposite of what the original concept boasts
and never did i play a game of risk on the board 1v1 and have 1/3 neutral armies on the game board ... so some things are skewed drastically on this site ... far enough removed so they cant get in trouble for it
maps like arms race and space shuttle and your home is our base ... all those completely stupid maps that you just stack and launch and march thru tons of neutral armies and whoever gets best dice initially wins .... defeats the entire purpose of the concept of risk and i dont play or enjoy any map that focuses on killing neutrals ( i did however use feudal map for gaining medals) ... which also defeats the purpose of the original concept
squishyg wrote:excellent post natty. consider it "liked".
do we have clan cheering sections now? ... nice skirt and pom poms squishy
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:11 am
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