Conquer Club

I totally understand:
-CC's desire to minimize baiting, flaming and trolling
-players lacking in self control that still need to bait, flame, troll (including myself on occasion -- to some degree, but usually joke and not nasty)
-someone said "if you read something, you can 1) agree 2) disagree 3) act like a dick <== and think there is a group of 30-50* people here that do #3 a lot).

. . .but what I don't understand is:
-CC Mod taking a reply that was purely meant to diffuse so much baiting/flaming/Trolling, and saying that the "INVITE to pull it out of public threads, and shift it into private Live Chat PM for Real Time exchanges" is baiting in and of itself.
-why so vocally nasty people (you all know who you are), HAVE to reply to threads -- and don't hash it out IN PERSON

When I asked someone in Social about it. . .there reply was:
-they don't want to discuss or settle anything
-they just want to stir things up
-they are afraid to confront people directly

Well, I think that is sad. And it almost makes me weep (yes, there I said it), that we have people on this site that will jab an run -- and NOT accept an invitation to discuss on Live Chat/Social/PM privately.

*I think it's insane for 30-50 people to claim they are the VAST majority --when they simply are not.

Feel free to agree or disagree, but I'm not looking for more baiting/flaming/trolling on this thread -- but genuine discussion by intelligent people. This is NOT about playing style, etc. -- but willingness (or lack thereof) to talk to those you've been slandering and libeling and exaggerating about.

Looking forward to good input and maybe some 1 on 1 discussions in Live Chat/Social/PM.

*Stares at the audience with a deadpan look*

This thread serves no purpose other than to make others anrgry.

Locked

*crickets chirping*

Crazyirishman wrote:This thread serves no purpose other than to make others anrgry.

Who do you expect to be angry at a thread such as this or is it his use of the word there that you find disconcerting?

It's basically kind of pointless, since flaming was extinguished here long ago.

A lone bogroll, tumbles in the wind, across the shot...

I sincerely care about your personal problems and shortcomings.

Well, I think that is sad.

So very sad.

Well, let me just seriously ask you something.

What advantage to yourself or this site will manifest from starting a thread like this?

Many members find your predatory style of play, ( Near farming, Bog-Rolling, or whatever label you wish to apply.) offensive, whether it be legal or not. Many members resent the negative impact you make when you roll new or low rank players, and the fact that you hold the conqueror title, frankly cheapens it when you have obtained it this way.

Now this is my humble opinion, but it is shared by many.
You show up in a thread where your objectionable, albeit legal, tactics are being discussed with this " Who Me???? Y'all a bunch of haters!!!" attitude, and smugly retort with tongue in cheek reply's. Your very presence in these threads are going to send a few over the edge.
( myself included....however more creatively than most...).

Far from me to suggest you stay out of the forums, but because you are what you are, you're a vector for hostility in whatever permit-able negative form the mods will let slide.


You may not see what you are doing/have done is inappropriate, but others do not share your opinion, and no amount of dialogue whether person to person, or in post form will change that.

You posting threads like this to claim the moral high road,
(Please people!!!! Can't we all just get along like civilized chaps?) comes across as transparent spin doctoring, and insulting to one's intelligence regardless of your true intent.
and less face it, your intent is not to spark a site wide love in is it?
You are trying to wash some blood off of your hands and cultivate some credibility.

Good luck with that. Some will buy it, others will just sneer in your general direction, as some of the posts in this thread of yours already indicate.

You can pay for school, but you can't buy class.



Johnny Rockets

Johnny Rockets wrote:Well, let me just seriously ask you something.

What advantage to yourself or this site will manifest from starting a thread like this?

Many members find your predatory style of play, ( Near farming, Bog-Rolling, or whatever label you wish to apply.) offensive, whether it be legal or not. Many members resent the negative impact you make when you roll new or low rank players, and the fact that you hold the conqueror title, frankly cheapens it when you have obtained it this way.

Now this is my humble opinion, but it is shared by many.
You show up in a thread where your objectionable, albeit legal, tactics are being discussed with this " Who Me???? Y'all a bunch of haters!!!" attitude, and smugly retort with tongue in cheek reply's. Your very presence in these threads are going to send a few over the edge.
( myself included....however more creatively than most...).

Far from me to suggest you stay out of the forums, but because you are what you are, you're a vector for hostility in whatever permit-able negative form the mods will let slide.


You may not see what you are doing/have done is inappropriate, but others do not share your opinion, and no amount of dialogue whether person to person, or in post form will change that.

You posting threads like this to claim the moral high road,
(Please people!!!! Can't we all just get along like civilized chaps?) comes across as transparent spin doctoring, and insulting to one's intelligence regardless of your true intent.
and less face it, your intent is not to spark a site wide love in is it?
You are trying to wash some blood off of your hands and cultivate some credibility.

Good luck with that. Some will buy it, others will just sneer in your general direction, as some of the posts in this thread of yours already indicate.

You can pay for school, but you can't buy class.



Johnny Rockets

Are you saying that in order to minimize baiting, flaming, and trolling, certain individuals should not post in the General Discussion forum? That is simple, yet brilliant.

As someone who just came off a 72 hour ban, for not calling someone a cunt, I say f*ck this site.

Master Bush wrote:

Lindax wrote:

Master Bush wrote:

Lindax wrote:

Master Bush wrote:Growing up I lived at a house....

Mmmm.... this would imply you're grown up.

Lx

this post has been reported for flaming and baiting.

Good luck with that. It was a simple observation, neither implying anything positive, nor negative.

Lx

Doesnt make a difference. Still a flame. Like me calling you a cunt. It's a simple observation, but I wouldnt say it, because it's a flame.

Master Bush wrote:As someone who just came off a 72 hour ban, for not calling someone a cunt, I say f*ck this site.

really? so a ban for not flaming? interesting... there is a thread in the clans section where a mod literally goes off and drops down some of the worst flaming i have seen around here in a long time... i don't think he got a ban... i don't understand the rules around here... you got a ban for NOT calling someone something, and a mod doesn't get a ban FOR calling a user multiple things... ok... i get it now.. sigh...-el Jesus negro

It is so obvious. The rules are written for the few to manipulate against the many. Rise up CC. Get your social networks working and lets have an armed insurrection to put down the oppressors and start a new regime.

There's been quite a bit of trolling from this thread. I'm going to lock it for a day at least. Be back soon,

-cr

Okay here is my suggestion. To everyone who has someone they don't want to see posts from on the forum/live chat/etc... Just foe/ignore each other. That should put an end to flaming/baiting/trolling. (I hope anyways.)

It's been taken care of! Remember, whenever there is an issue that involves flaming in forum posts, hit up a Global/Discussions Mod and report the post to make sure the issue gets attention.

Til next time,


Locked

I'm fea up, too!

When are the invitations going out?

Will they be electronic or a hand delivered?

Johnny Rockets wrote:Well, let me just seriously ask you something.

What advantage to yourself or this site will manifest from starting a thread like this?

Many members find your predatory style of play, ( Near farming, Bog-Rolling, or whatever label you wish to apply.) offensive, whether it be legal or not. Many members resent the negative impact you make when you roll new or low rank players, and the fact that you hold the conqueror title, frankly cheapens it when you have obtained it this way.

Now this is my humble opinion, but it is shared by many.
You show up in a thread where your objectionable, albeit legal, tactics are being discussed with this " Who Me???? Y'all a bunch of haters!!!" attitude, and smugly retort with tongue in cheek reply's. Your very presence in these threads are going to send a few over the edge.
( myself included....however more creatively than most...).

Far from me to suggest you stay out of the forums, but because you are what you are, you're a vector for hostility in whatever permit-able negative form the mods will let slide.


You may not see what you are doing/have done is inappropriate, but others do not share your opinion, and no amount of dialogue whether person to person, or in post form will change that.

You posting threads like this to claim the moral high road,
(Please people!!!! Can't we all just get along like civilized chaps?) comes across as transparent spin doctoring, and insulting to one's intelligence regardless of your true intent.
and less face it, your intent is not to spark a site wide love in is it?
You are trying to wash some blood off of your hands and cultivate some credibility.

Good luck with that. Some will buy it, others will just sneer in your general direction, as some of the posts in this thread of yours already indicate.

You can pay for school, but you can't buy class.



Johnny Rockets

Well, after an interesting live chat with G, I have come to a couple of conclusions.

1) Although we are not going to ever agree on the perspective of bogrolling, he does in fact have a decent skill set and a formula within the rules that is obviously effective.
2) Communicating with someone whos methods you do not aprove of, will not prevent you from being enlightened to some degree.
3) In other threads, my creative "not trolling-but close" replies to GLGH could be interpreted as "nasty". Parallels could be drawn to "not farming-but close" tactics ...in the whole arena of keeping within the spirit of C.C. rules.

I'll never consider you the best, but I will concede that you're good. Hating the player, not the game is unproductive. I was surprised to discover that simmiler views we're shared on reforming the scoring and ranking system, and perhaps I was overly judgemental and assuming about your character.

All in all, thank you for the chat. It was as productive as you pointed out in your first post.

Johnny Rockets.

Johnny Rockets wrote:

Johnny Rockets wrote:Well, let me just seriously ask you something.

What advantage to yourself or this site will manifest from starting a thread like this?

Many members find your predatory style of play, ( Near farming, Bog-Rolling, or whatever label you wish to apply.) offensive, whether it be legal or not. Many members resent the negative impact you make when you roll new or low rank players, and the fact that you hold the conqueror title, frankly cheapens it when you have obtained it this way.

Now this is my humble opinion, but it is shared by many.
You show up in a thread where your objectionable, albeit legal, tactics are being discussed with this " Who Me???? Y'all a bunch of haters!!!" attitude, and smugly retort with tongue in cheek reply's. Your very presence in these threads are going to send a few over the edge.
( myself included....however more creatively than most...).

Far from me to suggest you stay out of the forums, but because you are what you are, you're a vector for hostility in whatever permit-able negative form the mods will let slide.


You may not see what you are doing/have done is inappropriate, but others do not share your opinion, and no amount of dialogue whether person to person, or in post form will change that.

You posting threads like this to claim the moral high road,
(Please people!!!! Can't we all just get along like civilized chaps?) comes across as transparent spin doctoring, and insulting to one's intelligence regardless of your true intent.
and less face it, your intent is not to spark a site wide love in is it?
You are trying to wash some blood off of your hands and cultivate some credibility.

Good luck with that. Some will buy it, others will just sneer in your general direction, as some of the posts in this thread of yours already indicate.

You can pay for school, but you can't buy class.



Johnny Rockets

Well, after an interesting live chat with G, I have come to a couple of conclusions.

1) Although we are not going to ever agree on the perspective of bogrolling, he does in fact have a decent skill set and a formula within the rules that is obviously effective.
2) Communicating with someone whos methods you do not aprove of, will not prevent you from being enlightened to some degree.
3) In other threads, my creative "not trolling-but close" replies to GLGH could be interpreted as "nasty". Parallels could be drawn to "not farming-but close" tactics ...in the whole arena of keeping within the spirit of C.C. rules.

I'll never consider you the best, but I will concede that you're good. Hating the player, not the game is unproductive. I was surprised to discover that simmiler views we're shared on reforming the scoring and ranking system, and perhaps I was overly judgemental and assuming about your character.

All in all, thank you for the chat. It was as productive as you pointed out in your first post.

Johnny Rockets.

You've been booger-eyed and sidewinked by a notorious marauder! This is a bitter disappointment. Our agreement was for you to verbally take him down at the heals in exchange for premium. You had 'em in your sights and It would appear I hired the wrong man for the job.

Our previous agreement has been nullified. Hell, now I wouldn't even consider giving you 25$ for a win-ged Pegasus! You're a liar and a cheat. Your head strong ways are going to lead you into a tight corner one day..




Now leave me to my work!



KH-Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ

owenshooter wrote:

Master Bush wrote:As someone who just came off a 72 hour ban, for not calling someone a cunt, I say f*ck this site.

really? so a ban for not flaming? interesting... there is a thread in the clans section where a mod literally goes off and drops down some of the worst flaming i have seen around here in a long time... i don't think he got a ban... i don't understand the rules around here... you got a ban for NOT calling someone something, and a mod doesn't get a ban FOR calling a user multiple things... ok... i get it now.. sigh...-el Jesus negro

Master Bush was banned because he wasn't performing up to par. He half-assed it. I mean, not calling someone a cunt? Really? Are you growing a fucking conscience now? I expect more out of you.

And owen, my troll-dar is at a 3. Out of 100. If I had half a mind I'd ban you, but lucky for you Night Strike borrowed three-quarters of it.

Slackers, the lot of you!

Have a nice day and a pleasant evening,

-Sully

Disclaimer: The previous post was in jest and not meant to be taken seriously.

-Sully

Johnny Rockets, thx, nice to talk with and discuss CC with to you in that Live Chat PM. I appreciate the note above. Have a prosperous 2012

1 down, 39-49 to go? should only be about 40-50 vocal ones -- or are they shy?

They must be shy, you can be so coy sometimes GLG, you dirty dog you. You still haven't responded to my secret post in general congratz.