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Has anyone ever used a strategy of taking out your partner in a doubles game to get their cards before the enemy does? I'm not in that kind of situation now, but I've thought about it...

yes. do it for sure.

Yep...

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The tactic didn't work - I couldn't quite take out red using the cards, however I managed to win the game anyway - was a pretty sweet feeling. If you're going to do it I suggest talking it through with your partner first... they'd probably be pretty annoyed if you don't.

Do it all the time it can be a great way to win.

Yes, I do it, and I expect it of my team mates as well when the situation warrants it, such as if I'm about to be eliminated and my teammate can collect some cards.

It beats your opponent getting them.

silvanthalas wrote:Yes, I do it, and I expect it of my team mates as well when the situation warrants it, such as if I'm about to be eliminated and my teammate can collect some cards.

It beats your opponent getting them.

What a coincidence - I was just in a game with yourself when you used this exact tactic.
I hadn't really thought about it before - but I can definitely see the advantage in a few situations.
I'm a firm believer that you learn something new in every game.

yeah its a very good tactic in an escalating game, coz it allows you to go on a rampage and hopefully knock other players out one by one and getting their cards. however i would not reccomend it in all situations, such as a close fought fixed rate cards game. often in the long run its more beneficial to have a partner than a quick fix a few cards can offer.

Can't believe this is such a new idea lol. I've done it myself in at least three games I can remember and even more when it's been done against me.

MountainLion wrote:Has anyone ever used a strategy of taking out your partner in a doubles game to get their cards before the enemy does? I'm not in that kind of situation now, but I've thought about it...

I have done it once!!! I as sooo weak and the other team was growing very big!!, so i knew my partner had 5 cards,, i had 4 my self!! i got to turn in 2 sets of rainbow in an flat rate game! and just took the world!!

SolidWolf34 wrote:

MountainLion wrote:Has anyone ever used a strategy of taking out your partner in a doubles game to get their cards before the enemy does? I'm not in that kind of situation now, but I've thought about it...

I have done it once!!! I as sooo weak and the other team was growing very big!!, so i knew my partner had 5 cards,, i had 4 my self!! i got to turn in 2 sets of rainbow in an flat rate game! and just took the world!!

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i make a point of thinking about it at all times. in escalating games i find that if enemy A cashes then you might be able to take out your partner (with their cooperation of giving you their armies) and then take out enemy B before they cash. if u do this u hav loads more ters than the enemy and hav a better chance of winnin.

i'm always looking out for when best to do it

i make a point of thinking about it at all times. in escalating games i find that if enemy A cashes then you might be able to take out your partner (with their cooperation of giving you their armies) and then take out enemy B before they cash. if u do this u hav loads more ters than the enemy and hav a better chance of winnin.

i'm always looking out for when best to do it

I did it also once. It is kinda cool strategy because people don't expect you to do it so its got element of suprice.

Is it better to take your partner out if you can take his cards? Or let him live with a few armies scattered around.

Also - is it better to not take ANY of your partners men if you don't have to - even if it means you don't hold a continent? I've been watching doubles / triples games and it seems the best players never attack a team mate for any reasons?

Trying to learn - thanks.

i would definently suggest taking your partner out late in escalating games but if you dont need armies and your partner as very few cards may just want to forti him and see what happens

RjBeals wrote:Is it better to take your partner out if you can take his cards? Or let him live with a few armies scattered around.

Also - is it better to not take ANY of your partners men if you don't have to - even if it means you don't hold a continent? I've been watching doubles / triples games and it seems the best players never attack a team mate for any reasons?

Trying to learn - thanks.

If its flat rate I would never kill my team mate, unless they are sure to be eliminated by the other team. If you do it for a quick cards boost you will lose three troops per turn (their reinforcements). If the game is near completion then this quick cash might be of value, but if the game still has many turns to go then it is far better to drop troops to your team mate to keep them in the game.

I never attack a team-mate’s position until they have fortified all the troops in it to me. Attacking your team-mate in the first round is stupidity itself.
I would of course attack a team-mate to secure a bonus. Other than that I will never attack them where not essential. In effect you are losing a minimum of two troops, the one your team-mate had in the attacked territory and the one you replace it with. Far better to attack a rival where you lose a minimum of one troop, with the effect of gaining a 1/3 of a troop (in reinforcements) and depriving them of one troop (in the territory) and 1/3 of a troop reinforcement.

Ive eliminated partners several times in flat rate, its only advisable if he is gonna be taken out anyway. its best u do it rather than an opponent, however in escalating very often games are won by taking ur partner out.

as for not attacking your partners for a continent. it is not advisable most of the time, its better to use armies to attack ur opponent, i only ever really do it in SA or AUS early on in order to gain the benefit, otherwise its simply not worth it for the larger continents, you may as well just attack the enemy.

First rule is that you should avoid playing by absolute rules. In terms of eliminating your partner, do it when it makes sense, avoid it when it doesn't. If it's a flat rate game and you have two sets between you and that cash-in can allow you eliminate an opponent and but you in position to win, of course. Also, if they are really on their last leg and are doomed to be eliminated by an opponent before their next turn, then yes, probably then as well.

In terms of attacking your partner, I do tend to avoid it as long as possible and look at their territories the same as neutrals. That is, territories that i know wont attack me and thus, are lowest priority in terms of attacking. Obviously, however, if you can secure a continent bonus and they have fortified out of those countries (either to you or to another one of theirs) so there's only one army left, andyou've taken all enemy countries in the area, then yes, attack your partner.

RjBeals wrote:Is it better to take your partner out if you can take his cards? Or let him live with a few armies scattered around.

Also - is it better to not take ANY of your partners men if you don't have to - even if it means you don't hold a continent? I've been watching doubles / triples games and it seems the best players never attack a team mate for any reasons?

As I see it, the first question you need to ask yourself is whether or not you like your partner or not. If you cannot stand him or them, taking them out will make you feel better.

The second thing though - never attack a team mate no matter the circumstances - seems to be a strange strategy. I've never seen it used. Someone may have used it in a game though without me noticing, but in that case I didn't notice because it was an easy win. It sounds like an arcane and idiosyncratic strategy. Show me a player doing this and I'll show you a moron in return.

alstergren wrote:never attack a team mate no matter the circumstances

I was viewing a doubles game between some Colonel's & high rankers - and one of the comments was something to that effect. I don't remember exactly, but I know the winning team did not hold any continents, and they looked scattered all over the place, but it worked.

RjBeals wrote:

alstergren wrote:never attack a team mate no matter the circumstances

I was viewing a doubles game between some Colonel's & high rankers - and one of the comments was something to that effect. I don't remember exactly, but I know the winning team did not hold any continents, and they looked scattered all over the place, but it worked.

Well. If playing an escalating cards game, continents are not that important after a couple of cash ins. So, if you can battle a stand-still getting high up on the cash in ladder, sure. But then it's not because of the not attacking your partner strategy, it's because of you being good with cards.

Also. In a no cards game, you can go for grabbing as many areas as possible, getting a high turn bonus. Then, if you can just keep your opponents from taking a continent, you'll get an advantage that grows bigger for each turn. If doing this, attacking your partner is of course not that good. You want to increase your team's areas as much as possible.

But: None of these things is a sure win strategy. Far from it. But they can be useful if not really being able to take and hold continents.