Conquer Club

I have to say that I am sick and tired of being in the winning position only to have some inept system that roles the dice lose the game when I lose 21 men for 2. Its a joke and needs to be fixed, it takes away all strategy when you can lose with those odds.

I am interested in hearing some of the unacceptable roles that other players have had, as it seems to be a constant with me.

Thanks

Don't take this the wrong way, but I've already been here and you are wasting your time. Your thread will not get taken seriously and be prepared for Natty and woodruff to troll the shit out of it with their asinine logic. It eventually will lead to more bickering than productivity.

Just saying.

Best of luck to you.

scchapman wrote:I have to say that I am sick and tired of being in the winning position only to have some inept system that roles the dice lose the game when I lose 21 men for 2. Its a joke and needs to be fixed, it takes away all strategy when you can lose with those odds.

I am interested in hearing some of the unacceptable roles that other players have had, as it seems to be a constant with me.

Thanks

Well, the odds of losing 21 for 2 (making a couple assumptions about how it happened) come out to the order of 1 in 2,000,000. There are over 1 million rolls per day on Conquer Club. So seeing this happen every once in a while is entirely possible.

What would you like us to do? If you lose 15 in a row, turn on a switch that forces you to win the next few to compensate?

you know what you're right! i loose at unfair odds ever so often too! never mind the times i totally destroy someone else's 20+ stack with 10 troops, that doesn't count.

lol. there are so many of these threads. for a free site, this game is the most incredible one ive ever seen. as soon as i afford it im going to go premium every year to help the guys out who do the site. we all need to remember that we have good days and bad, and the enjoyment of the game should be more important than the number of wins you have, or the ammount of times you loose at weird odds. at least, thats my opinion.

nice poly Canadian Bacon, that gets me every time i see it.

MNDuke wrote:Don't take this the wrong way, but I've already been here and you are wasting your time. Your thread will not get taken seriously and be prepared for Natty and woodruff to troll the shit out of it with their asinine logic. It eventually will lead to more bickering than productivity.
Just saying.
Best of luck to you.

So in your world, "stating the facts" is "trolling the shit out of a thread"? Our logic isn't at all assinine, it is in fact based on the mathematics involved in the situation. In fact, I would suggest that it is you who are doing the trolling.

See, the thing that really gets me in these types of threads is that, even if the dice DO favor the defense, ITS STILL FAIR BECAUSE THE DEFENSE IS ALWAYS FAVORED FOR EVERYONE.

Army of GOD wrote:See, the thing that really gets me in these types of threads is that, even if the dice DO favor the defense, ITS STILL FAIR BECAUSE THE DEFENSE IS ALWAYS FAVORED FOR EVERYONE.

army SNAP OUT OF IT your making sense!!!

dice rolls=good,
dice rolls=f*ck my life
dice rolls =that was a close one
dice rolls = army making sense!

MNDuke wrote:Don't take this the wrong way, but I've already been here and you are wasting your time. Your thread will not get taken seriously and be prepared for Natty and woodruff to troll the shit out of it with their asinine logic. It eventually will lead to more bickering than productivity.

Just saying.

Best of luck to you.

Reported for baiting.

this thread is like deja vu... no matter how many times it is started and it dies, it just comes back... wait, that makes it more like Jason, not deja vu...-the black jesus

Haha, I'm just J/K LOL. I'm not reporting anyone.

Mnduke, you sound kinda bitter. Perhaps you should pour out the sand from your vagina, relax, and tell us all what's really bothering you. It's not about the dice, me or woodruff really. We all know that. Do you have lots of stress in your life? Are you getting laid often enough?

Tell us what the problem is, MNduke. We're here to help.

In answer to your psuedo question (I assume you tried asking the question 'How is it possible?' but you neglected to put the question mark in the title) it is possible for 21 of your armies to lose to 2 opposition armies because the dice are random, and because truly random requires the previous rolls to be inconsequential to the next, it is possible (as you have found out) for large streaks to occur - Especially when there are literally hundreds of thousand plus rolls perform every day on the site.

I hope that helps - although I have the dinstinct impression that you will not be satisfied with this response - most dice complainers are rarely satisfied

I think random.org is programmed to laugh at long streaks.

One of these days, I'm going to throw one of these threads into the Q&A just to laugh as SirSebstar tries to deal with it.

alright time to get serious here... if you're right about "streaky" dice then why not post a single turn from one of your games in the following format:



deployed troops on space x
attacked space x to space x dice rolls are
roll 1
roll2
roll3
roll4
roll5
advanced x (where applicable)
attacked space x....... ect.

or are you afraid you'll see the dice are fairly balanced and you just focus on the bad rolls because you have this unexplainable expectation you shouldn't loose any armies?

canadian bacon wrote:if you're right about "streaky" dice then why not post a single turn from one of your games

I can be right about the streakiness of the dice if all you want as proof is the dice from one turn. Now we got some awesome Dice Analyser in the Tools-forum, I suggest you go there if you want more accurate information.

JBlombier wrote:

canadian bacon wrote:if you're right about "streaky" dice then why not post a single turn from one of your games

I can be right about the streakiness of the dice if all you want as proof is the dice from one turn. Now we got some awesome Dice Analyser in the Tools-forum, I suggest you go there if you want more accurate information.

shoot me a link.

JBlombier wrote:

canadian bacon wrote:if you're right about "streaky" dice then why not post a single turn from one of your games

I can be right about the streakiness of the dice if all you want as proof is the dice from one turn. Now we got some awesome Dice Analyser in the Tools-forum, I suggest you go there if you want more accurate information.

Stay tuned for an update by lackattack in the near future that may allow everyone, without the need to employ add-ons, to get a sense of how one's dice compare to others!


--Andy

This is the link to the Dice Analyzer.

I'm very interested in how much the soon-to-come update by lack will have an effect on the amount of threads about dice. I'd think that it will increase the first few weeks and will start to decrease once people start to notice that the dice actually even out in the long run. Perhaps wishful thinking, we'll see.

scchapman wrote:I have to say that I am sick and tired of being in the winning position only to have some inept system that roles the dice lose the game when I lose 21 men for 2. Its a joke and needs to be fixed, it takes away all strategy when you can lose with those odds.

I am interested in hearing some of the unacceptable roles that other players have had, as it seems to be a constant with me.

Thanks

Hm... try taking some statistics, specifically random distribution and the difference between "rare" and "never"...

Also, remember there are probably over a million rolls a day here.

JBlombier wrote:This is the link to the Dice Analyzer.

I'm very interested in how much the soon-to-come update by lack will have an effect on the amount of threads about dice. I'd think that it will increase the first few weeks and will start to decrease once people start to notice that the dice actually even out in the long run. Perhaps wishful thinking, we'll see.

i don't want to have to download anything.... i keep fretting this dinosaur is going to have another heart attack soon, especially since it's down to a hard drive that was half of the original space...... who'da thought ten years could do so much damage...

any hoo, i was challenging the poster to provide proof for us, the people he is trying to sell on the idea, that the dice are streaky. it'd be cool if it were inbedded in the site.