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Is It Considered Point Dumping When ...

PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:08 pm
by donkeymile
your dice just suck and you are consistently losing 10+ vs 1's ... while opponents are winning 3v6's, 4v6's and 3v8's etc., consistently, yet you continue to play on and start new games?

I'm down now almost 1000 points in a month or so and the freefall continues .... just curious is all .... I'm bound to lose the majority of my games now so theoretically I'm pretty much just point dumping ... WHO WANTS THEM????

Re: Is It Considered Point Dumping When ...

PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:10 pm
by Army of GOD
Give them to charity. I heard there's a good one that helps build homes.

Re: Is It Considered Point Dumping When ...

PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:15 pm
by jefjef
Have you actually considered playing something less complicated then Luxembourg? I hear Doodle Earth is a pretty easy map to learn.

Re: Is It Considered Point Dumping When ...

PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:20 pm
by donkeymile
very funny .... I've played lots of Lux lately because I haven't time to play a bigger map ....however,

I WAS playing lots of bigger maps/games (about 20-30) when I saw my dice begin to dive (AGAIN) so I decided enough was enough - size and complication doesn't matter - my dice suck no matter ... so a point-dumping I will go ...albeit unwillingly

Re: Is It Considered Point Dumping When ...

PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:23 pm
by Metsfanmax
donkeymile wrote:your dice just suck and you are consistently losing 10+ vs 1's ... while opponents are winning 3v6's, 4v6's and 3v8's etc., consistently, yet you continue to play on and start new games?

I'm down now almost 1000 points in a month or so and the freefall continues .... just curious is all .... I'm bound to lose the majority of my games now so theoretically I'm pretty much just point dumping ... WHO WANTS THEM????


Yep. You should quit before you get banned.

Re: Is It Considered Point Dumping When ...

PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:15 am
by Streaker
So, your luck is being awfull lately, and THEN you decide to switch to the small maps? Sounds brilliant :?

Re: Is It Considered Point Dumping When ...

PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:19 am
by Commander9
Streaker wrote:So, your luck is being awfull lately, and THEN you decide to switch to the small maps? Sounds brilliant :?


For some odd reason I'm getting a feeling that a person above me was sarcastic. Can't quite put my finger on it, though.

Re: Is It Considered Point Dumping When ...

PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:32 am
by Streaker
Commander9 wrote:
Streaker wrote:So, your luck is being awfull lately, and THEN you decide to switch to the small maps? Sounds brilliant :?


For some odd reason I'm getting a feeling that a person above me was sarcastic. Can't quite put my finger on it, though.


Keep reading. You'll get it sooner or later ;)

Might I suggest to the OP to play a couple 'conquest' maps? They tend to be a little less luck based. You'll need to bring some strategy though.

Re: Is It Considered Point Dumping When ...

PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:24 am
by Caymanmew
donkeymile wrote:very funny .... I've played lots of Lux lately because I haven't time to play a bigger map ....however,

I WAS playing lots of bigger maps/games (about 20-30) when I saw my dice begin to dive (AGAIN) so I decided enough was enough - size and complication doesn't matter - my dice suck no matter ... so a point-dumping I will go ...albeit unwillingly


so when you get some bad dice you set out to make it worst by playing completely luck based maps? very smart

Re: Is It Considered Point Dumping When ...

PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:29 am
by Streaker
caymanmew wrote:
donkeymile wrote:very funny .... I've played lots of Lux lately because I haven't time to play a bigger map ....however,

I WAS playing lots of bigger maps/games (about 20-30) when I saw my dice begin to dive (AGAIN) so I decided enough was enough - size and complication doesn't matter - my dice suck no matter ... so a point-dumping I will go ...albeit unwillingly


so when you get some bad dice you set out to make it worst by playing completely luck based maps? very smart


So when your read a topic, you just copy what people say above you?

Re: Is It Considered Point Dumping When ...

PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:54 pm
by owenshooter
the last time i point dumped, i was taking turns in the bathroom...-the black jesus

Re: Is It Considered Point Dumping When ...

PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:56 pm
by donkeymile
I found it interesting how people stated that it was only 'perception' and not reality.

900-1000 points in maybe a month or less is not perception.

Another couple games (point dumping losses) tonight. Lost 18vs 2 again .... pretty much come to expect to see that once every few games now .. lol.

Re: Is It Considered Point Dumping When ...

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 12:16 am
by Metsfanmax
Have you considered the possibility that you just suck?

Re: Is It Considered Point Dumping When ...

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 12:19 am
by donkeymile
obviously there are games where I make mistakes ... just like you. I have been 2500 for quite a while (4 times now) before the dice take a big shit so no, that isn't a possibility.

Re: Is It Considered Point Dumping When ...

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 12:26 am
by donkeymile
I wonder what the odds of this happening in the same game are.

I lose 18v2, and 3 times 6v1. My opponent, to win the game, takes 24 vs 15, then bombards a 6,6,9,3,3,3,4,2,2 and approx. 12 1's - and still has 6 left.

Oh how much fun it is for my opponents these days .... this is close to what you can expect when you play me lately ... though this last one was bad, even for me ..... oh a point dumping I will go .. a pointdumping I will go .... something like that anyway

Re: Is It Considered Point Dumping When ...

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 12:53 am
by Commander62890
Perhaps you're getting really lucky streaks when you're get up to 2500, but when you get normal dice, you stay in the 1400-1800 range.

Re: Is It Considered Point Dumping When ...

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 12:59 am
by Metsfanmax
donkeymile wrote:obviously there are games where I make mistakes ... just like you. I have been 2500 for quite a while (4 times now) before the dice take a big shit so no, that isn't a possibility.


Sure it is. Perhaps the only reason you got to 2500 is because you had periods of really good dice.

Re: Is It Considered Point Dumping When ...

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 8:04 am
by JelleR
donkeymile wrote:obviously there are games where I make mistakes ... just like you. I have been 2500 for quite a while (4 times now) before the dice take a big shit so no, that isn't a possibility.


Obviously. When you perform well its all skill. When you perform not so well, you are just unlucky!

Hilarious man.

Re: Is It Considered Point Dumping When ...

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 8:38 am
by SirSebstar
I think the verdict is in.. you loose because everybody else is just soo much better then you.

Re: Is It Considered Point Dumping When ...

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:34 am
by Commander62890
Don't play games that 12-yr-olds can play well. If you want to win more, play games that require a little more thought.

That is, unless you yourself can't play those types of games...

Re: Is It Considered Point Dumping When ...

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:41 am
by anonymus
donkeymile wrote:I found it interesting how people stated that it was only 'perception' and not reality.

900-1000 points in maybe a month or less is not perception.

Another couple games (point dumping losses) tonight. Lost 18vs 2 again .... pretty much come to expect to see that once every few games now .. lol.


hey i could say the same but then im mostly playing assassin now,, your points will reflect the games you play.. if you can play..
i cant hold major playing silly shit like luxemburg assassin.. play something that needs tactic rather than dice and maybe your luck will change,,

''''''''/ :?:

Re: Is It Considered Point Dumping When ...

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:58 pm
by rdsrds2120
Get really good at something like fog, no spoils, adjacent reinforcements. Some assembly required.

-rd

Re: Is It Considered Point Dumping When ...

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 2:36 pm
by donkeymile
I almost exclusively play fog, no spoils - IMO the other options don't need as much skill.

Re: Is It Considered Point Dumping When ...

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 2:40 pm
by Commander62890
Yeah; it's not the settings that are the problem, rds.

It's about game type (1v1) and the map (small).

Re: Is It Considered Point Dumping When ...

PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 7:14 pm
by AAFitz
From a CC legal standpoint...it is not point dumping as long as you are reasonably trying to win. Point Dumping is purposely losing, not being stupid or unlucky and losing.

**However, statistics can be pretty damning, and they may be more believable than your word in some situations.