Conquer Club

if there is any negative bonus (-1) is this valid for standard 3 units which have each player from start?

It will reduce it from 3, if there is a negative bonus.

-rd

theBastard wrote:if there is any negative bonus (-1) is this valid for standard 3 units which have each player from start?

The only map I think that is for is USApocalypse. You can go down to a 2 deploy. There may be another map out there I haven't noticed that on though.

Lubawski wrote:

theBastard wrote:if there is any negative bonus (-1) is this valid for standard 3 units which have each player from start?

The only map I think that is for is USApocalypse. You can go down to a 2 deploy. There may be another map out there I haven't noticed that on though.

I think on the Poker Card game map that is the same... but not negative bonuses

there is a negative in Supermax: Prison Riot! that can reduce your deployed troops each round to ZERO

greenoaks wrote:there is a negative in Supermax: Prison Riot! that can reduce your deployed troops each round to ZERO

Same for Conquer Man.

thanks guys. great news for me

also on the map Solar System, if you hold 2 jumpgates you recieve 2 armies.
How can you get zero armies on prison riot?

if you had less than 18 territories and the gas room without the warden which gives -5 troops

thanx

Lubawski wrote:

theBastard wrote:if there is any negative bonus (-1) is this valid for standard 3 units which have each player from start?

The only map I think that is for is USApocalypse. You can go down to a 2 deploy. There may be another map out there I haven't noticed that on though.

Iraq springs to mind

also on cricket

Something that kinda of surprised me while playing Supermax - the negative bonus does not impact bonus from cards. I had an opponent that had the -5 from the gas chamber without warden, and was only due 3, so net total was -2. He also happened to have a red set at this time, which he cashed, and he was able to deploy all 4 from the set. I would have thought that he would have only been able to deploy 2, as -5+3+4 = 2. Didn't make any difference in this case, but just mildly surprising.

dwilhelmi wrote:Something that kinda of surprised me while playing Supermax - the negative bonus does not impact bonus from cards. I had an opponent that had the -5 from the gas chamber without warden, and was only due 3, so net total was -2. He also happened to have a red set at this time, which he cashed, and he was able to deploy all 4 from the set. I would have thought that he would have only been able to deploy 2, as -5+3+4 = 2. Didn't make any difference in this case, but just mildly surprising.

got a game number?

SirSebstar wrote:

dwilhelmi wrote:Something that kinda of surprised me while playing Supermax - the negative bonus does not impact bonus from cards. I had an opponent that had the -5 from the gas chamber without warden, and was only due 3, so net total was -2. He also happened to have a red set at this time, which he cashed, and he was able to deploy all 4 from the set. I would have thought that he would have only been able to deploy 2, as -5+3+4 = 2. Didn't make any difference in this case, but just mildly surprising.

got a game number?

You can not have a negative deployment (because the game engine would crash!).

The extra armies you receive from cashing cards/spoils are calculated after any bonus from the beginning of your turn.

MrBenn wrote:

SirSebstar wrote:

dwilhelmi wrote:Something that kinda of surprised me while playing Supermax - the negative bonus does not impact bonus from cards. I had an opponent that had the -5 from the gas chamber without warden, and was only due 3, so net total was -2. He also happened to have a red set at this time, which he cashed, and he was able to deploy all 4 from the set. I would have thought that he would have only been able to deploy 2, as -5+3+4 = 2. Didn't make any difference in this case, but just mildly surprising.

got a game number?

You can not have a negative deployment (because the game engine would crash!). - this I knew

The extra armies you receive from cashing cards/spoils are calculated after any bonus from the beginning of your turn. - this was the surprising bit, though I understand

Game 8694259

It is simply a programming decision of when the round-up-to-0 occurs. I would have figured the negative check would occur after all bonuses (including card bonuses) have been calculated. As I said, really don't care, and the situation is I am sure very very rare, just thought it was interesting.

Game 8694259
2011-06-23 18:24:55 - mvar received -5 troops for holding Gas Chamber without Warden
2011-06-23 18:24:55 - mvar received 3 troops for 1 regions
2011-06-23 18:24:59 - mvar cashed in a group of Tyler, Shiv, and Alan worth 4 troops
2011-06-23 18:25:01 - mvar deployed 4 troops on Gas Chamber

thank you

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Ok, so just trying to compile the list so far:
USApocalypse
Battle for Iraq
Supermax: Prison Riot
Conquer Man
Poker Club
Cricket
Solar System

any others?

Dukasaur wrote:Ok, so just trying to compile the list so far:
USApocalypse
Battle for Iraq
Supermax: Prison Riot
Conquer Man
Poker Club
Cricket
Solar System

any others?

poker club does not have negatives?!

SirSebstar wrote:

Dukasaur wrote:Ok, so just trying to compile the list so far:
USApocalypse
Battle for Iraq
Supermax: Prison Riot
Conquer Man
Poker Club
Cricket
Solar System

any others?

poker club does not have negatives?!

I don't know, I only played it once and I was the first one wiped out so I didn't learn much about the map. But QoH mentioned it so I put it on the list.

no it has no negatives, but it does not carry a terrotory bonus count so 12+ gives nothing.

8 Thoughts is debatable, You can get -1 for something, but it's -1 on a continent bonus instead of region bonus. And you could never get under 3, since you'd get a bonus of 3 (for territories) + 3 for continent -1 for mind. (at least)
Don't think there's anything else.
And Poker Club doesn't have a negative bonus indeed.

the list of negative bonusses where holding lands will give you a negative on your deployment:
USApocalypse
Battle for Iraq
Supermax: Prison Riot
Conquer Man
Cricket
Solar System
D-day omaha beach

this is all, so says Sirsebstar

dwilhelmi wrote:

MrBenn wrote:

SirSebstar wrote:

dwilhelmi wrote:Something that kinda of surprised me while playing Supermax - the negative bonus does not impact bonus from cards. I had an opponent that had the -5 from the gas chamber without warden, and was only due 3, so net total was -2. He also happened to have a red set at this time, which he cashed, and he was able to deploy all 4 from the set. I would have thought that he would have only been able to deploy 2, as -5+3+4 = 2. Didn't make any difference in this case, but just mildly surprising.

got a game number?

You can not have a negative deployment (because the game engine would crash!). - this I knew

The extra armies you receive from cashing cards/spoils are calculated after any bonus from the beginning of your turn. - this was the surprising bit, though I understand

Game 8694259

It is simply a programming decision of when the round-up-to-0 occurs. I would have figured the negative check would occur after all bonuses (including card bonuses) have been calculated. As I said, really don't care, and the situation is I am sure very very rare, just thought it was interesting.

Well I do care, and this loophole is a travesty, I tell you, a complete travesty! In that case, it should be -2 + 4 = 2 armies. The full effect of the gas chamber is not being accurately portrayed due to this programming flaw. The creators of javascript would be rolling over in their graves...

Just kidding, I don't actually care either.