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special games for secret treaties?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:54 pm
by Nous-irons
I was thinking sometimes it's a shame that we can't arrange secret treaties, when it would be really interesting and fill the game with intrigue. As I see it, the main problem is multis and abusers, right?

Well, I guess a solution would be to allow them, but only in a "random lot draw" only, or maybe in specially arranged tournaments.

I mean, sometimes you sign a treaty with an ally but you realise that ally is becoming too powerful and you can't backstab him yourself. It would be intriguing to try secretly make peace with your old enemies after a bitter war, for example, and your ally doesn't suspect a thing ... yet.

This to me, would be a very nice aspect to those who want to play that way, especially since this is how things operates in the political arena. It's a shame that they are forbidden only because of abuse. The entire world structure has been practically been formed from the secret alliance system before WWI, which led to the alliance system in WWII, which led up to the secret alliance funding of various Middle East groups.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:15 pm
by AAFitz
actually, you probably could if you set up private games with people who agree to it.....dangerous business though

and i played on a site where they were legal....i didnt see the point....i refused to enter them, and instantly was eliminated by the other players...

but if everyone decides ahead of time, it could be interesting...you have to be damn sure everyones on the same page though

and even then...you may get some complaints

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:08 am
by flashleg8
Play "Diplomacy", the games are full of deals like this - basically Risk without the dice.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:13 am
by DIRESTRAITS
flashleg8 wrote:Play "Diplomacy", the games are full of deals like this - basically Risk without the dice.

I love that game. Is there an online version?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:18 am
by flashleg8
DIRESTRAITS wrote:
flashleg8 wrote:Play "Diplomacy", the games are full of deals like this - basically Risk without the dice.

I love that game. Is there an online version?


I've been looking for a simple one (like this is for Risk), but they all seem over complicated. I'd love to play online cause I can never get enough players (or time) for a face-to face-game. If anyone knows one please let us know!

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:44 am
by Truck
If anybody does find an uncomplicated on-line diplomacy let me know as well because nobody I know has the patience to play the board game

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:47 am
by MeDeFe
Yeah, you can easily plan to spend a whole day on one game of Diplomacy. Maybe even two.

Re: special games for secret treaties?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:13 pm
by CatronixFilms
Nous-irons wrote:This to me, would be a very nice aspect to those who want to play that way, especially since this is how things operates in the political arena. It's a shame that they are forbidden only because of abuse. The entire world structure has been practically been formed from the secret alliance system before WWI, which led to the alliance system in WWII, which led up to the secret alliance funding of various Middle East groups.


*sigh* You do realize that the funding of those middle eastern groups caused 9/11, right?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:27 pm
by RobinJ
Don't do it

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:37 pm
by GrazingCattle
I would also like to see an online diplomacy game. IF YOU HAVE IT AND ARE HOLDING IT HOSTAGE I WILL PAY ANYTHING YOU WANT!!! Well within reason. I would love to have a tourny that secret alliances were allowed. You could find possible players you might play in the future and ally yourself with them, or wait in the heat of the battle!

I am excited just thinking about it!

PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:26 am
by Muad_Dib
Try http://www.redscape.com lots of games, variants, etc.