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Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:50 pm**

I would like my fucking $25 back. If this is not an option, would the fucking assholes who saw it fit to change the dice to this joke of a system please stand up so I can tell you were to shove my fucking $25. You took a perfectly good and fun game and completely ruined it. One where you used to be able to rely on your strategy and wit along with the drop to win a game. Since the change over to this ridiculous bogus system it has become completely dice dependent. Gone are the days of strategy and here are the days of luck. I would have never renewed my premium if I had known CC was going to trash this gaming experience and impose one where its better to lucky than good. What a sad pathetic joke. It's as bullshit as online poker is.

I'd like that money back to buy a case of cheap beer and some condoms so I can get drunk and f*ck something. If I'm going to get lucky, it might as well count for something.

Signed one disgruntled customer.
f*ck You.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:59 pm**

what system did they change to? to the best of my knowledge they still use random.org to provide the "dice", they just changed the appearance to "assault cubes" to avoid any legal trouble. so, the program is the same, only the appearance has changed...

Random.org wrote:What's this fuss about true randomness?

Perhaps you have wondered how predictable machines like computers can generate randomness. In reality, most random numbers used in computer programs are pseudo-random, which means they are a generated in a predictable fashion using a mathematical formula. This is fine for many purposes, but it may not be random in the way you expect if you're used to dice rolls and lottery drawings.

RANDOM.ORG offers true random numbers to anyone on the Internet. The randomness comes from atmospheric noise, which for many purposes is better than the pseudo-random number algorithms typically used in computer programs. People use RANDOM.ORG for holding drawings, lotteries and sweepstakes, to drive games and gambling sites, for scientific applications and for art and music. The service has existed since 1998 and was built and is being operated by Mads Haahr of the School of Computer Science and Statistics at Trinity College, Dublin in Ireland.

As of today, RANDOM.ORG has generated 924.6 billion random bits for the Internet community.

anyway, the "dice" still come from the same place, nothing has been changed...-the black jesus

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:09 pm**

That is not true. You are correct they still come from Random.org, but how they are pulled has changed and with it CC. They are far streakier. I never argued the randomness. I'm sure they balance out in the long wrong, but in between the balancing act they are skewed. If I start a game and my dice suck and then become great at the end when the game is over, what does it matter if they are random and become balanced? This is what I have been experiencing and its a fucking pathetic joke. You'd think after enough outcry about the dice being noticeably different, something would be done already. However, a few ignorant morons have their heads so far up their asses and would rather pretend nothing is wrong and stroke their egos.

Perhaps CC could take my $25 and put it towards hiring an INDEPENDENT AUDITOR to look over the programming and coding and very that everything is legit. Not a volunteer or some tech geek that has a bias. Furthermore, I will start recording my CC dice and actually roll RL dice and prove the difference of how fucked up this site is between what is and what should be.

- not some asshole pretending its funny or cool to call himself the black jesus

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:52 pm**

MNDuke wrote:That is not true. You are correct they still come from Random.org, but how they are pulled has changed and with it CC. They are far streakier. I never argued the randomness. I'm sure they balance out in the long wrong, but in between the balancing act they are skewed. If I start a game and my dice suck and then become great at the end when the game is over, what does it matter if they are random and become balanced? This is what I have been experiencing and its a fucking pathetic joke. You'd think after enough outcry about the dice being noticeably different, something would be done already. However, a few ignorant morons have their heads so far up their asses and would rather pretend nothing is wrong and stroke their egos.

Perhaps CC could take my $25 and put it towards hiring an INDEPENDENT AUDITOR to look over the programming and coding and very that everything is legit. Not a volunteer or some tech geek that has a bias. Furthermore, I will start recording my CC dice and actually roll RL dice and prove the difference of how fucked up this site is between what is and what should be.

- not some asshole pretending its funny or cool to call himself the black jesus

And what happens if this Independent Auditor looks over the dice and says they are truly random?

I doubt you'll believe him and ask for a second/third/fourth/etc opinion until someone finally says they aren't random, then you'll say "LISTEN TO HIM, HE'S RIGHT"

Personally, I haven't noticed a major change in the dice, if anything they got better. If I wasn't looking in the forums when the dice changed, i wouldn't have noticed a thing.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:55 pm**

TheForgivenOne wrote:
MNDuke wrote:That is not true. You are correct they still come from Random.org, but how they are pulled has changed and with it CC. They are far streakier. I never argued the randomness. I'm sure they balance out in the long run, but in between the balancing act they are skewed. If I start a game and my dice suck and then become great at the end when the game is over, what does it matter if they are random and become balanced? This is what I have been experiencing and its a fucking pathetic joke. You'd think after enough outcry about the dice being noticeably different, something would be done already. However, a few ignorant morons have their heads so far up their asses and would rather pretend nothing is wrong and stroke their egos.

Perhaps CC could take my $25 and put it towards hiring an INDEPENDENT AUDITOR to look over the programming and coding and very that everything is legit. Not a volunteer or some tech geek that has a bias. Furthermore, I will start recording my CC dice and actually roll RL dice and prove the difference of how fucked up this site is between what is and what should be.

- not some asshole pretending its funny or cool to call himself the black jesus

And what happens if this Independent Auditor looks over the dice and says they are truly random?

I doubt you'll believe him and ask for a second/third/fourth/etc opinion until someone finally says they aren't random, then you'll say "LISTEN TO HIM, HE'S RIGHT"

Personally, I haven't noticed a major change in the dice, if anything they got better. If I wasn't looking in the forums when the dice changed, i wouldn't have noticed a thing.

I'm not arguing the randomness, I'm arguing the legitimacy of the programming. I suppose when its a bigger font you might actually read and not skim what I've wrote and just provide your usual talking point when posting in a dice thread.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:18 pm**

MNDuke wrote:That is not true. You are correct they still come from Random.org, but how they are pulled has changed and with it CC. They are far streakier. I never argued the randomness. I'm sure they balance out in the long wrong, but in between the balancing act they are skewed.

You never argued the randomness, then what's the problem ?
Should the dice be less random than now ? Or are you in fact complaining about the randomness ?

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:28 pm**

MNDuke wrote:- not some asshole pretending its funny or cool to call himself the black jesus

wow, way to further the discourse!! i post a valid statement combined with a statement from random.org and your response is to call me an asshole. wonderful flame. you are truly proving your point. and can you please explain what has changed in how they pull the numbers? i have never seen such a thing posted here on CC...-the black jesus

p.s.-name calling doesn't get you anywhere and you lose credibility when you call people that disagree with you things such as "asshole." grow up and learn how to treat others with the same respect you expect/want to receive.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:29 pm**

please stand up, please stand up

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:48 pm**

MNDuke wrote:Since the change over to this ridiculous bogus system it has become completely dice dependent. Gone are the days of strategy and here are the days of luck.

If this were actually the case, there would be no one at the highest ranks, nor would the same people be holding onto those high ranks. The fact of the matter...what you say here quite simply is wrong.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:49 pm**

trestain wrote:please stand up, please stand up

That popped into my head as well.

Also, Dice in real life can get streaky too. I've seen it before, Considering I rolled a 6, 6, 6, 5, 6, 6, 5, 4, 5 against my cousin 2 years back in a game of Risk.

(ALSO, I don't have pics, so don't ask)

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:50 pm**

TheForgivenOne wrote:
trestain wrote:please stand up, please stand up

That popped into my head as well.

Also, Dice in real life can get streaky too. I've seen it before, Considering I rolled a 6, 6, 6, 5, 6, 6, 5, 4, 5 against my cousin 2 years back in a game of Risk.

(ALSO, I don't have pics, so don't ask)

I was sure those were going to be the first few words of the op.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:08 pm**

TheForgivenOne wrote:
trestain wrote:please stand up, please stand up

That popped into my head as well.

Also, Dice in real life can get streaky too. I've seen it before, Considering I rolled a 6, 6, 6, 5, 6, 6, 5, 4, 5 against my cousin 2 years back in a game of Risk.

(ALSO, I don't have pics, so don't ask)

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:23 am**

InsomniaRed wrote:
TheForgivenOne wrote:
trestain wrote:please stand up, please stand up

That popped into my head as well.

Also, Dice in real life can get streaky too. I've seen it before, Considering I rolled a 6, 6, 6, 5, 6, 6, 5, 4, 5 against my cousin 2 years back in a game of Risk.

(ALSO, I don't have pics, so don't ask)

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