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Best cards on hand ever ( crazy )

PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:55 pm
by NightWolf
I was laughing up a storm today after I noticed the order, and names, of the cards I got for my Conquer man game I'm playing right now. Take a look, and see if you see something funny about my cards:

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Now, would any interested mathematicians like to determine the odds of getting such a set of cards? this is killing me! :lol:

Re: Best cards on hand ever ( crazy )

PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:09 pm
by Metsfanmax
I count 151 territories. The chance of getting those cards in that order is then (1/151)*(1/150)*(1/149)*(1/148), or 2 * 10^-9 (i.e. the chances are one in 500 million). Of course, that ignores what the other players have, but it's a rough idea ;P

Re: Best cards on hand ever ( crazy )

PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:18 pm
by Incandenza
It would be cooler if you had the LI CK ME CC cards...

Re: Best cards on hand ever ( crazy )

PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:25 am
by AAFitz
Thats pretty cool. Its also surprising you even picked up on it. I imagine most wouldnt have.

What are some other possibilities.

Re: Best cards on hand ever ( crazy )

PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:27 am
by AAFitz
Incandenza wrote:It would be cooler if you had the LI CK ME CC cards...


that has had to have happened at some point, has to be the best possibility...especially if its nuclear and you won every one of the spots.

AA cashed in LI CK ME and was eliminated from the game.

Re: Best cards on hand ever ( crazy )

PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:17 am
by Sir. Ricco
I think the best ever would be DA MN BI CH. And yes, it is possible.

Re: Best cards on hand ever ( crazy )

PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:47 am
by karelpietertje
Metsfanmax wrote:I count 151 territories. The chance of getting those cards in that order is then (1/151)*(1/150)*(1/149)*(1/148), or 2 * 10^-9 (i.e. the chances are one in 500 million). Of course, that ignores what the other players have, but it's a rough idea ;P

It also ignores the amount of games that have been played with spoils on Conquer Man, and the amount of possible combinations that would have triggered a forum post.
imo, Lame Poem isn't that interesting a set of spoils.

Re: Best cards on hand ever ( crazy )

PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:51 am
by the.killing.44
IM AF AG

but there is no IM :(

Re: Best cards on hand ever ( crazy )

PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:00 pm
by Metsfanmax
karelpietertje wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:I count 151 territories. The chance of getting those cards in that order is then (1/151)*(1/150)*(1/149)*(1/148), or 2 * 10^-9 (i.e. the chances are one in 500 million). Of course, that ignores what the other players have, but it's a rough idea ;P

It also ignores the amount of games that have been played with spoils on Conquer Man, and the amount of possible combinations that would have triggered a forum post.
imo, Lame Poem isn't that interesting a set of spoils.


He only asked what the probability of getting those particular spoils in that order was, and my answer was right, except for what the opponents have (because that lowers the total number of cards left in the "deck"). That being said, the probability is the same for any particular set of four cards in a row.

Re: Best cards on hand ever ( crazy )

PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:40 pm
by karelpietertje
Metsfanmax wrote:
karelpietertje wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:I count 151 territories. The chance of getting those cards in that order is then (1/151)*(1/150)*(1/149)*(1/148), or 2 * 10^-9 (i.e. the chances are one in 500 million). Of course, that ignores what the other players have, but it's a rough idea ;P

It also ignores the amount of games that have been played with spoils on Conquer Man, and the amount of possible combinations that would have triggered a forum post.
imo, Lame Poem isn't that interesting a set of spoils.


He only asked what the probability of getting those particular spoils in that order was, and my answer was right, except for what the opponents have (because that lowers the total number of cards left in the "deck"). That being said, the probability is the same for any particular set of four cards in a row.


False. From his post, I can only deduct he asked for the odds on such a set, not this particular set in this order.
NightWolf wrote:Now, would any interested mathematicians like to determine the odds of getting such a set of cards?

The odds of getting a set that is funny in the same way remain not too small.

Re: Best cards on hand ever ( crazy )

PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:43 pm
by Metsfanmax
karelpietertje wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
karelpietertje wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:I count 151 territories. The chance of getting those cards in that order is then (1/151)*(1/150)*(1/149)*(1/148), or 2 * 10^-9 (i.e. the chances are one in 500 million). Of course, that ignores what the other players have, but it's a rough idea ;P

It also ignores the amount of games that have been played with spoils on Conquer Man, and the amount of possible combinations that would have triggered a forum post.
imo, Lame Poem isn't that interesting a set of spoils.


He only asked what the probability of getting those particular spoils in that order was, and my answer was right, except for what the opponents have (because that lowers the total number of cards left in the "deck"). That being said, the probability is the same for any particular set of four cards in a row.


False. From his post, I can only deduct he asked for the odds on such a set, not this particular set in this order.
NightWolf wrote:Now, would any interested mathematicians like to determine the odds of getting such a set of cards?

The odds of getting a set that is funny in the same way remain not too small.


It's obvious that there are only a few sets that would be amusing in the same way, and the odds remain at under one in a million if there are less than 500 such ordered sets, which I presume is the case.

Re: Best cards on hand ever ( crazy )

PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:16 pm
by pmchugh
Haha brilliant

Re: Best cards on hand ever ( crazy )

PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:26 pm
by AAFitz
KI LL AA. HE AB AD PI CK. HE LA CK GG ON CC.

Re: Best cards on hand ever ( crazy )

PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 6:59 am
by Leehar
AAFitz wrote:HE AB AD PI CK. HE LA CK GG ON CC.

6 cards?

Re: Best cards on hand ever ( crazy )

PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 7:34 am
by AAFitz
Leehar wrote:
AAFitz wrote:HE AB AD PI CK. HE LA CK GG ON CC.

6 cards?


I eliminated the other players. :roll:

Re: Best cards on hand ever ( crazy )

PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:22 am
by lordhaha
OM FG KI LL ME !! 5 CARD SET ;)

Re: Best cards on hand ever ( crazy )

PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 2:12 pm
by NightWolf
lol, I figured people might find this mildly interesting. To add to the mix, I would determine, by flying more numbers around, the odds of getting my unqiue set.

for this situation, 4 cards slots and 3 colors gives each color slot "12" states, which may hold 151 different cards, of which leaves us with 1,812 combos, which can be presented in 4 slots, leaving a final odds count of 10,780,347,822,336, or 10.78 trillion in one, presuming my math is correct. Giving the fact that I'm working with nested odds here, I've got a bit of room for error, since I have relatively little experience here. If I'm correct, that's a number that needs 44 bits for storage! lol...

Re: Best cards on hand ever ( crazy )

PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 5:12 pm
by MrBenn
I thought this was going to be a thread where I could share my game where I had an opportunity to cash in 3 rainbow sets (I started my turn with four cards and took out somebody with 5). TO OB AD

Re: Best cards on hand ever ( crazy )

PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:52 am
by tdans
MrBenn wrote:I thought this was going to be a thread where I could share my game where I had an opportunity to cash in 3 rainbow sets (I started my turn with four cards and took out somebody with 5). TO OB AD

:lol: :lol: nice one Mrbenn :)

Re: Best cards on hand ever ( crazy )

PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:10 am
by rdsrds2120
karelpietertje wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:I count 151 territories. The chance of getting those cards in that order is then (1/151)*(1/150)*(1/149)*(1/148), or 2 * 10^-9 (i.e. the chances are one in 500 million). Of course, that ignores what the other players have, but it's a rough idea ;P

It also ignores the amount of games that have been played with spoils on Conquer Man, and the amount of possible combinations that would have triggered a forum post.
imo, Lame Poem isn't that interesting a set of spoils.


The previous amount of games doesn't matter :roll: Getting that on your first game is the same odds of getting it on your 1243 game.

Re: Best cards on hand ever ( crazy )

PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:18 am
by stahrgazer
Metsfanmax wrote:He only asked what the probability of getting those particular spoils in that order was, and my answer was right, except for what the opponents have (because that lowers the total number of cards left in the "deck"). That being said, the probability is the same for any particular set of four cards in a row.


No... there was a thread where people got duplicates. From that thread, apparently each spoil pulls from a full deck, so your odds of getting any particular spoils is the same for every pull.

Re: Best cards on hand ever ( crazy )

PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:26 am
by Metsfanmax
stahrgazer wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:He only asked what the probability of getting those particular spoils in that order was, and my answer was right, except for what the opponents have (because that lowers the total number of cards left in the "deck"). That being said, the probability is the same for any particular set of four cards in a row.


No... there was a thread where people got duplicates. From that thread, apparently each spoil pulls from a full deck, so your odds of getting any particular spoils is the same for every pull.


Okay, so then my answer was correct from the start.

Re: Best cards on hand ever ( crazy )

PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:01 pm
by ljex
It would be cool if i got, IT IS I(i)J EX...too bad only one of those 4 territories exists

Re: Best cards on hand ever ( crazy )

PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:59 am
by Gilligan
Does anyone else find it HUMORU(m)S that I have all of the China spoils?

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Re: Best cards on hand ever ( crazy )

PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:14 am
by natty dread
Slightly?