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Is this against the rules?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:32 pm
by jigger1986
Just for the record I have never done this, but I see it happen from time to time. If in a game I mass a large army and put it adjacent to an opponent. At the end of my turn in the game chat I say something like, "if you dont move from (enter territory here) next turn I will atack/smash/suicide you.
Again I realized that at the very least these terror tactics are shady, but are they against the rules. I have seen some very irrational players that WILL suicide under these circumstances. However if the same results are gained by moving armies to an area and having your opponent withdrawl without the verbal threats, the strategy is not terroristic in nature.
The bottom line is, is the use of these threat based tactics against the rules?

Re: Is this against the rules?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:34 pm
by Caymanmew
nope there fair


i used them yesterday (kinda) to win a game

Re: Is this against the rules?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:38 pm
by Arama86n
As far as I'mn aware it's 100% legal.

Threat of force is somthing one uses all the time in flatrate, though unspoken most of the time. Some players jsut take it a step further I suppose. Many "honorable" players denounce such tactics, and I symphasise, but end of the Day, Sun Tzu would applaud such strategy =) Why waste armies when one can achieve ones goals through diplomacy?

Re: Is this against the rules?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:39 pm
by ljex
jigger1986 wrote:Just for the record I have never done this, but I see it happen from time to time. If in a game I mass a large army and put it adjacent to an opponent. At the end of my turn in the game chat I say something like, "if you dont move from (enter territory here) next turn I will atack/smash/suicide you.
Again I realized that at the very least these terror tactics are shady, but are they against the rules. I have seen some very irrational players that WILL suicide under these circumstances. However if the same results are gained by moving armies to an area and having your opponent withdrawl without the verbal threats, the strategy is not terroristic in nature.
The bottom line is, is the use of these threat based tactics against the rules?


Not against the rules, in fact it can be a very useful tactic to use when someone occupies a region that gives you a big benefit but doesn't help them that much.

Re: Is this against the rules?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:41 pm
by SirSebstar
anything you want to say about the game/strategy promises and threat, say it in game chat. Whatever you say there is unenforciable, so yes you are allowed to renegade on a truce. Expect others to rate you backstabber, but you have that right! So make the best use of it, an know all (that is permitted under the rules) is fair in love and war...

now go and kill someone (else)!

Re: Is this against the rules?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:15 pm
by pie12345
jigger1986 wrote:Just for the record I have never done this, but I see it happen from time to time. If in a game I mass a large army and put it adjacent to an opponent. At the end of my turn in the game chat I say something like, "if you dont move from (enter territory here) next turn I will atack/smash/suicide you.
Again I realized that at the very least these terror tactics are shady, but are they against the rules. I have seen some very irrational players that WILL suicide under these circumstances. However if the same results are gained by moving armies to an area and having your opponent withdrawl without the verbal threats, the strategy is not terroristic in nature.
The bottom line is, is the use of these threat based tactics against the rules?

i dont say that i just do it

Re: Is this against the rules?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:22 pm
by jleonnn
ConquerClub homepage wrote:Risk all your troops on a daring land grab. Use diplomacy to coordinate a group assault on the game leader. Feel the thrill of victory as you crush your last opponent.


All this is considered Diplomacy. But you shouldn't suicide because you will find yourself and the person you suicided against in a weaker position. If you do, you might end up getting foed

Re: Is this against the rules?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:38 pm
by ljex
jleonnn wrote:
ConquerClub homepage wrote:Risk all your troops on a daring land grab. Use diplomacy to coordinate a group assault on the game leader. Feel the thrill of victory as you crush your last opponent.


All this is considered Diplomacy. But you shouldn't suicide because you will find yourself and the person you suicided against in a weaker position. If you do, you might end up getting foed

Ah but if you dont they wont respect your threats next time...

Re: Is this against the rules?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:57 pm
by jleonnn
Good point. Maybe you won't have to if they just move out. Most people don't like suiciders.

Re: Is this against the rules?

PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 7:28 am
by natty dread
I've sometimes in an escalating game said "if no one gives me a card spot by next turn I'll suicide on the nearest player"... ;)

Re: Is this against the rules?

PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 9:15 am
by jigger1986
Thanks for the info. Im glad that there are ppl out there still that understand that diplomacy in all its forms, (legal forms) is still one of the best policies.
Again thansk for the info.

Re: Is this against the rules?

PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:59 am
by jleonnn
Of course, it has to be in game chat. Or you will be court marshalled and get a warning if found guilty by the jury(by that I mean LoVo, King Sam and Eye84free

Re: Is this against the rules?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:10 am
by Streaker
natty_dread wrote:I've sometimes in an escalating game said "if no one gives me a card spot by next turn I'll suicide on the nearest player"... ;)


Yeah, in escalating I also do that every now and then.
I also followed through on my warnings, only to get added on someone's foe list.
Bloody players should have listened and free'd some space up :lol:

Re: Is this against the rules?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:36 pm
by squishyg
because i'm so sweet and charming, i phrase it as "i need a card, who will give me a spot please?"

Re: Is this against the rules?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:43 pm
by ljex
Streaker wrote:
natty_dread wrote:I've sometimes in an escalating game said "if no one gives me a card spot by next turn I'll suicide on the nearest player"... ;)


Yeah, in escalating I also do that every now and then.
I also followed through on my warnings, only to get added on someone's foe list.
Bloody players should have listened and free'd some space up :lol:


I have gone as far as to suicide other players in freestyle escalating speed on multiple occasions. This is because if they dont have a set with 4 cards i win and they have said they have have a set. Then i will say if i start im not stopping so you might want to cash now. This is because it is bad for me to cash if i dont kill them. Then i go for it and they cash but they better know that next time they will lose if they dont cash.

Re: Is this against the rules?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:10 pm
by Caymanmew
ljex wrote:
Streaker wrote:
natty_dread wrote:I've sometimes in an escalating game said "if no one gives me a card spot by next turn I'll suicide on the nearest player"... ;)


Yeah, in escalating I also do that every now and then.
I also followed through on my warnings, only to get added on someone's foe list.
Bloody players should have listened and free'd some space up :lol:


I have gone as far as to suicide other players in freestyle escalating speed on multiple occasions. This is because if they dont have a set with 4 cards i win and they have said they have have a set. Then i will say if i start im not stopping so you might want to cash now. This is because it is bad for me to cash if i dont kill them. Then i go for it and they cash but they better know that next time they will lose if they dont cash.



dont do that with me i wont cash till i see the treat

Re: Is this against the rules?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:51 am
by ljex
caymanmew wrote:
ljex wrote:
Streaker wrote:
natty_dread wrote:I've sometimes in an escalating game said "if no one gives me a card spot by next turn I'll suicide on the nearest player"... ;)


Yeah, in escalating I also do that every now and then.
I also followed through on my warnings, only to get added on someone's foe list.
Bloody players should have listened and free'd some space up :lol:


I have gone as far as to suicide other players in freestyle escalating speed on multiple occasions. This is because if they dont have a set with 4 cards i win and they have said they have have a set. Then i will say if i start im not stopping so you might want to cash now. This is because it is bad for me to cash if i dont kill them. Then i go for it and they cash but they better know that next time they will lose if they dont cash.



dont do that with me i wont cash till i see the treat


If i say cash or die, you better cash.

Re: Is this against the rules?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:43 am
by natty dread
ljex wrote:
If i say cash or die, you better cash.


You're like a robber, aren't you?