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Should CC's Ranks be Adjusted?

 
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Re: Too many junior officers??

Postby Mr Changsha on Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:20 am

laughingcavalier wrote:Hold it: I have changed my mind. Mr Changsha is no longer a genius.

I would like to see some revision to ranks, not dissimilar to Mr C's original suggestion. But I do have reservations.

What is the purpose of the CC rankings? To ape somebody's military? (Whose military anyway?) No, it exists purportedly to offer players a rough and ready guide to their opponents' strength. And more surely to offer us an opiate, a palliative, a reward for our long hours spent climbing the CC tree.

Where does your 5% figure come from Mr Changsha? It seems the US has followed morie enlightened regimes in cutting their officer/enlisted ratio in recent years, but this is driven by realpolitik: copying the flat structure prevalent in the corporate world; saving on the wage bill; replacing talented generalists with well-trained specialists ... In approximate figures, the US officer corps represented 10% of the military in WW2, 14% in 1989 and 16% in 1999: considerably above the 5% Mr C proposes for CC today.

The "5% may be officers" rule does not much help with understanding a player's skill, and probably militates against players' self-satisfaction. Raising the officer bar is probably a good idea. As more players achieve higher scores, better to give them a harder test and a greater sense of achievement in passing it. But the bar would be better set at, say "10% of players are officers", or "1800 for lieutenant". More likely to give greater joy to more people that way.

On Mr Benn's rankings: a fine idea attractively visualised, concisely expressed. But far too many ranks. It would be confusing for the humble player such as myself searching for opponents: how on earth would I remember the significance of so many symbols so similar in nature? And Mr Benn's system might actually serve to undermine ambition. Too many promotions to aim for, with too little distinction between them, and we might lose the joy currently experienced by so many players when they reach the magic number that bumps them up. Let's keep the ranks within the numbers I can count on my fingers and toes. And ditch all those gradations at the top of the tree. Those guys can go congratulate each other in one of blitz's threads, we really don't need to see it all spread out in technicolour across the scoreboard. I do however love the conchy rank. Genius.

Some greater gradation in the 1000-1600 range? Quite probably a good idea. Though for myself I don't really remember even really noticing rank until I got to somewhere round 1500.

A question: how are the proportions of players in different rankings changing over time? We have Mr Benn's breakdown of ranks from July '08. What does the same breakdown look like now? A higher percentage of players in the higher ranks? And how might it look in another 12 or 24 months?

Mr Changsha, thanks for the idea, though you are no longer a genius, I am glad somebody is working on it for you.


Laughingcavalier in 'Mr C is no longer a genius shocker!!!'

I have to say your first mistake was assuming I thought about this topic for more than about fifteen seconds before I began writing. Your second was in assuming I researched it.

Hah! I laugh in the face of research! I spit in the very eye of knowledge and I wave my (unusually pert) arse in front of experience!

Laughingcavalier in 'I thought Mr C was a genuis shocker!!' would have been more appropriate...

However, I still think we have too many officers.

Maybe it is because I visualise Risk in an 18th/19th century setting?
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Re: Too many junior officers??

Postby Snorri1234 on Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:37 am

Mr Changsha wrote:Written like true 'private' snorri. Figuratively speaking, Fc is currently warming up his flaying hand because, well, that's just what he enjoys doing of a Friday night. But the bloody impertinance, the mocking of your betters...here my friends we have CC's Lenin in genesis form. A vote for 'Red Snorri' = death camps for the officers, you mark my words.

Methinks that in snorri we have an aristo (or at least a bourgeois merchant with a 'social conscience') masquerading as a common serf for political gain.

His 'People's Analysis of Rank' is, effectively, a communist manifesto for a popular uprising.

Dangerous times...



Too long have the ruling classes opressed the workers of CC! A thread to give even more ranks to the privileged few with the most "points" (which is an euphemistic term for inherited wealth) has been met with cheers and applause instead of the derision and despise it deserves. I and many others will not stand idly by and see how you convince and manipulate the poor into thinking you are better than them and deserve more.
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Re: Too many junior officers??

Postby jleonnn on Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:01 pm

If you people like these ideas so much, why don't you suggest them?
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Re: Too many junior officers??

Postby Mr Changsha on Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:50 am

About 28% of CC's players are now officers...up 9% since 2009.

This would suggest that as CC's membership has dropped, we have disproportionately lost the perpetually idiotic.

So is it now time to review my plan to drop everyone under the score of 2000 into the ranks of the great unwashed?

I think it is.
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Re: Too many junior officers??

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:53 pm

Snorri1234 wrote:If I get elected I will support whatever this thread is about, unless most of you are against it in which case I will try my hardest to prevent this.


He was elected, but he didn't publicly support this thread. Let Ex-President Snorri be forever known as a liar. We trusted this man, and this is all that he has amounted to.

Hopefully, our next President will serve the people sincerely.
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Re: Too many junior officers??

Postby Man United on Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:17 pm

Snorri1234 wrote:If I get elected I will support whatever this thread is about, unless most of you are against it in which case I will try my hardest to prevent this.


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Re: Too many junior officers??

Postby TheMissionary on Sun Aug 25, 2013 6:34 pm

In in support of this. Not that I care about rank but it seems logical.
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Re: Too many junior officers??

Postby Lindax on Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:48 pm

Let's talk about necro-bumping.

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Re: Too many junior officers??

Postby Mr Changsha on Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:18 pm

Lindax wrote:Let's talk about necro-bumping.

Lx


That our percentage of officers has risen by 9% in nearly 4 years is surely a matter of great importance. This is not some sordid 'necro-bumping', but rather an attempt to gain historical perspective on two issues...

1. The effects of CC's falling membership since those days.
2. My continuing aim of affecting a sweeping policy change that would make make a significant number of people feel slightly worse about their day.
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Re: Too many junior officers??

Postby TheMissionary on Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:24 pm

Please define "necro-bumping" please.
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Re: Too many junior officers??

Postby Mr Changsha on Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:34 pm

TheMissionary wrote:Please define "necro-bumping" please.


Having sexual relations with a corpse is the far too obvious definition.

However, as I splatter the cream of my mind all over this thread I say to you, very clearly indeed, that it is not dead; but rather it was waiting, poised like a tumescent priest (who are of course famously splash-happy) for events to make it even more relevent than it ever was.
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Re: Too many junior officers??

Postby BigBallinStalin on Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:38 am

Mr Changsha wrote:
Lindax wrote:Let's talk about necro-bumping.

Lx


That our percentage of officers has risen by 9% in nearly 4 years is surely a matter of great importance. This is not some sordid 'necro-bumping', but rather an attempt to gain historical perspective on two issues...

1. The effects of CC's falling membership since those days.
2. My continuing aim of affecting a sweeping policy change that would make make a significant number of people feel slightly worse about their day.


The denizens of CC need do need a new incentive, and that incentive will be provided with Mr C's plan here. Nothing else works up a good appetite for more points than to be several demoted and urinated upon. With a reduction in prestige yet a minor boost to the multiplier of points, this yet-to-be-realized gap in profits will drive those mad hatters toward more games. Economy theory says so.
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Re: Too many junior officers??

Postby Crazyirishman on Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:24 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
Mr Changsha wrote:
Lindax wrote:Let's talk about necro-bumping.

Lx


That our percentage of officers has risen by 9% in nearly 4 years is surely a matter of great importance. This is not some sordid 'necro-bumping', but rather an attempt to gain historical perspective on two issues...

1. The effects of CC's falling membership since those days.
2. My continuing aim of affecting a sweeping policy change that would make make a significant number of people feel slightly worse about their day.


The denizens of CC need do need a new incentive, and that incentive will be provided with Mr C's plan here. Nothing else works up a good appetite for more points than to be several demoted and urinated upon. With a reduction in prestige yet a minor boost to the multiplier of points, this yet-to-be-realized gap in profits will drive those mad hatters toward more games. Economy theory says so.


wouldn't there also be a demographic that buthurt about no longer being the rank they thought they achieved? it is possible that some of these butthurt denizens then decide to do the cc equivalent of 'taking my ball and going home' which could result in a reduction of total games played. What is the contemporary scholarly analysis on butthurt threory?
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Re: Too many junior officers??

Postby BigBallinStalin on Mon Aug 26, 2013 2:05 pm

Butthurt theory stipulates that the big dogs get off the porch while the pussies stay home multiplied by [deal with it.gif].
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