I figured...

[Frop]

Scott, just update to the latest BOB version and you can set the width of the action form yourself!

[Scott-Land]

i have the new Bob-- Frop...... how do you set it ?

another thing about Bob-- the auto attack doesn't remain in the same spot...is that fixable as well?

[Hatchman]

I have to say I agree with Chess's thoughts on the "freestyle thing", but damn Chess just avoid that crap and join some of my casual singles! Your presence is missed.

Best of Luck

[Scott-Land]

I have to say I agree with Chess's thoughts on the "freestyle thing", but damn Chess just avoid that crap and join some of my casual singles! Your presence is missed.

Best of Luck

do tell-- what's the freestyle thing? players that can't beat top seq esc games can't beat freestyle esc........pure and simple. no gimmicks or anything-- takes an equal amount of skill to win.

[Hatchman]

In my view Scott it's a cheap, gimmicky way to race to the top... But I'd better shut the f*ck up before I step on anyone's toes.

Call me an old school fart

Always been a bit of a purist. I am even of the opinion that the rules about advancing as many armies as the number of dice you attacked with, and selecting the number of dice to attack with, should be enforced here

[RobinJ]

Welcome back chess. The forums have lost some of their colour since you left.

[Scott-Land]

In my view Scott it's a cheap, gimmicky way to race to the top... But I'd better shut the f*ck up before I step on anyone's toes.

Call me an old school fart

Always been a bit of a purist. I am even of the opinion that the rules about advancing as many armies as the number of dice you attacked with, and selecting the number of dice to attack with, should be enforced here

all im asking is for your point of view..... age of merchant, realm and feudal is gimmicky. how is freestyle gimmicky? i put all my points on the line to learn a new style of play and lost nearly all of them more than one time learning. it's players like yourself, Fitz, and Rebel ( only ones that i know that has posted on the topic) that hasn't proved their skills in seq , esc that is demeaning the game-- no disrespect but it's the truth. all this i hear about ' i could climb the scoreboard if'......yada yada is a load of crap.

you're not stepping on my toes-- i've proven myself in sequential. it bores me so i tried a new style of game or quit all together. im not defending players that play freestyle nor myself, i'm defending the game itself. it is a great game to play when a cook doesn't run 50 armies into you because you're too close. it's exciting and can be equally skilled and challenging as sequential. at times even more challenging even without an allstar lineup.


EDIT: above reference is Speed Freestyle..... i have no opinion on regular freestyle as i've only played it a handful of times.

[Hatchman]

But Scott I wonder what those who have proven themselves in sequential escalating think about it. And with all due respect, would you be just as good at it without the help of scripts?

[Scott-Land]

But Scott I wonder what those who have proven themselves in sequential escalating think about it. And with all due respect, would you be just as good at it without the help of scripts?

i don't understand what you're asking me. and what script are you referring to? only script i've ever used was Troy..... gave me an army count instead of me having to add up the armies on my own. thought i've already posted how Bob has adversely affected my game.

[poo-maker]

But Scott I wonder what those who have proven themselves in sequential escalating think about it. And with all due respect, would you be just as good at it without the help of scripts?

I would like to think of myself as someone who has proven themselves in singles esc standard. I reached somewhere around 2750 in points playing standard esc at one point.

To be honest, i did try the clickable maps script... In hope that i could somehow shave a second or 2 off my moves. I had in enabled for the first 3 minutes in a freestyle speed game. It didn't work that well and it slowed me down. It took me a while to figure out how to even place my armies. Come to think of it, I am not aware of any advanced players using the script in freestyle speed games (as indicated by rebel earlier in the topic). But the chances are that there are some people that do use it.

The reason that i played freestyle speed so much compared to standard esc in the last couple of months was because i was bored of standard esc. There hardly any diplomacy in high ranked standard esc games and once you know the ropes, you need luck more than anything else.

As Scott said, there are alot of different tactics in speed freestyle that take time to learn. Since speed freestyle was 'invented' when i was already here, i have the pleasure of saying that i figured out some of these tactics myself rather than copying others.

[Blitzaholic]

they must of figured something out.

yes they have and they are keeping it very quiet for fear others would start using it but a lot of these guys that have soared up the ranks are using the

Clickable Maps script - this is giving them a huge competitive advantage against those without it.

Here is the link for that script:

clickable maps thread

download clickable maps script here

I knew it, unreal, never knew it even existed

[jiminski]

But Scott I wonder what those who have proven themselves in sequential escalating think about it. And with all due respect, would you be just as good at it without the help of scripts?

I would like to think of myself as someone who has proven themselves in singles esc standard. I reached somewhere around 2750 in points playing standard esc at one point.

To be honest, i did try the clickable maps script... In hope that i could somehow shave a second or 2 off my moves. I had in enabled for the first 3 minutes in a freestyle speed game. It didn't work that well and it slowed me down. It took me a while to figure out how to even place my armies. Come to think of it, I am not aware of any advanced players using the script in freestyle speed games (as indicated by rebel earlier in the topic). But the chances are that there are some people that do use it.

The reason that i played freestyle speed so much compared to standard esc in the last couple of months was because i was bored of standard esc. There hardly any diplomacy in high ranked standard esc games and once you know the ropes, you need luck more than anything else.

As Scott said, there are alot of different tactics in speed freestyle that take time to learn. Since speed freestyle was 'invented' when i was already here, i have the pleasure of saying that i figured out some of these tactics myself rather than copying others.

that is correct Poo.. you are the Godfather of Speed!
The rest saw your score and followed due to them all being bored too

nothing wrong in that.

[jiminski]

they must of figured something out.

yes they have and they are keeping it very quiet for fear others would start using it but a lot of these guys that have soared up the ranks are using the

Clickable Maps script - this is giving them a huge competitive advantage against those without it.

Here is the link for that script:

clickable maps thread

download clickable maps script here

I knew it, unreal, never knew it even existed

i saw this in the embryonic stage but gave up on it as it was nowhere near perfected ... it is damn good now though, i tried it a few minutes ago.

[KoE_Sirius]

But Scott I wonder what those who have proven themselves in sequential escalating think about it. And with all due respect, would you be just as good at it without the help of scripts?

I would like to think of myself as someone who has proven themselves in singles esc standard. I reached somewhere around 2750 in points playing standard esc at one point.

To be honest, i did try the clickable maps script... In hope that i could somehow shave a second or 2 off my moves. I had in enabled for the first 3 minutes in a freestyle speed game. It didn't work that well and it slowed me down. It took me a while to figure out how to even place my armies. Come to think of it, I am not aware of any advanced players using the script in freestyle speed games (as indicated by rebel earlier in the topic). But the chances are that there are some people that do use it.

The reason that i played freestyle speed so much compared to standard esc in the last couple of months was because i was bored of standard esc. There hardly any diplomacy in high ranked standard esc games and once you know the ropes, you need luck more than anything else.

As Scott said, there are alot of different tactics in speed freestyle that take time to learn. Since speed freestyle was 'invented' when i was already here, i have the pleasure of saying that i figured out some of these tactics myself rather than copying others.

I have never got on with any of the add ons...Its completely over my head and the one I tried filled the screen up with complicated numbers and statistics.
I only favour freestyle games,because they are much quicker.My first negative feedback came from waiting until everyone finished turns before I took mine in a freestyle game.If you look back at my first negative you'll see It was very early on in the freestyle era.
I consider my self an above average player on most maps.Magic,feudal and Might I am told I am in a different league.Just to bring things into prospective I have gained 1800 points in 3 weeks from analysising a specific map.I havent rank hunted for the games I simply join any game of my map of choice and win 80% of them freestyle/Seq or any other type/setting you care to mention.
Lets face it we are all trying to work our way up a ladder system and will do it in our own way.

[rebelman]

it's players like yourself, Fitz, and Rebel ( only ones that i know that has posted on the topic) that hasn't proved their skills in seq , esc that is demeaning the game--

i must be doing something right if i'm in same category as fitz and hatch

i don't think on this thread or any other have i claimed i could climb up the scoreboard by doing x, y or z im close to top of the 85% or so that never break 1400 - that's my level and I'm happy with it.

I'm not sure how I'm demeaning the game but yes I'm no superstar at seq. esc but my results are actually about average and I have taken some fine scalps playing seq. esc. games.

For the record these are my results (i can also show pts gained/lost if you like)

8 player seq esc

played 2: lost 1 ongoing 1 (probable win)

7 player seq esc

played 2: lost 1 ongoing 1 (win highly unlikely but still possible)

6 player seq esc

played 41: won 6 lost 33 ongoing 1 (win possible)

5 player seq. esc

played 3: won 1 lost 2

4 player seq. esc.

played 9: lost 9

3 player seq. esc

played 10: won 2

2 player seq. esc.

played 172: won 104 lost 67 ongoing:1 (win in the bag)

all game types played 239: won 113 lost 122 ongoing: 4

for a player of my skill level the above results are fairly ok

one other item i checked games with scott against each of us seq esc - these are the results

rebel v scott

played 1: won by third party 1

hatch v scott

played 3: won by hatch: 1 won by scott: 1 won by third party: 1

aa v scott

played 9: scott won 2 third parties won 7

[Scott-Land]

But Scott I wonder what those who have proven themselves in sequential escalating think about it. And with all due respect, would you be just as good at it without the help of scripts?

I would like to think of myself as someone who has proven themselves in singles esc standard. I reached somewhere around 2750 in points playing standard esc at one point.

To be honest, i did try the clickable maps script... In hope that i could somehow shave a second or 2 off my moves. I had in enabled for the first 3 minutes in a freestyle speed game. It didn't work that well and it slowed me down. It took me a while to figure out how to even place my armies. Come to think of it, I am not aware of any advanced players using the script in freestyle speed games (as indicated by rebel earlier in the topic). But the chances are that there are some people that do use it.

The reason that i played freestyle speed so much compared to standard esc in the last couple of months was because i was bored of standard esc. There hardly any diplomacy in high ranked standard esc games and once you know the ropes, you need luck more than anything else.

As Scott said, there are alot of different tactics in speed freestyle that take time to learn. Since speed freestyle was 'invented' when i was already here, i have the pleasure of saying that i figured out some of these tactics myself rather than copying others.

like i've said in earlier posts-- my seq esc score was 3200-3400. you played it perhaps a week or two before i began. you just excelled at it. if they're asking who the first player it would be Krusher.

[Scott-Land]

Rebel-- i'm not putting anyone in any category. only thing in common was that you posted about the topic.......... no where am i talking about skill level outside the fact that there are many players that say they can climb the scoreboard. i just don't see it.

[KoE_Sirius]

Rebel-- i'm not putting anyone in any category. only thing in common was that you posted about the topic.......... no where am i talking about skill level outside the fact that there are many players that say they can climb the scoreboard. i just don't see it.

You dont see an 1800 point rise in about 2 and half weeks as climbing?

[jiminski]

I have to say I agree with Chess's thoughts on the "freestyle thing", but damn Chess just avoid that crap and join some of my casual singles! Your presence is missed.

Best of Luck

do tell-- what's the freestyle thing? players that can't beat top seq esc games can't beat freestyle esc........pure and simple. no gimmicks or anything-- takes an equal amount of skill to win.

Try to remember Scott, that there is a lot of bad feeling with regards Casual Freestyle.
Not meaning to speak for Hatch, as he is more than capable but i imagine it is somewhat at the heart of his feelings.
And Unquestionably many players, having seen Poo's success, moved exclusively to that discipline in order to get the quick points... and the Arms-race continues.

I hate freestyle personally but i am actually more predisposed to the Speed version; it is less prone to uncheckable sneakiness and loop-hole abuse.. i am sure you found some though

Due to the time limit, you can not wait until 5 o'clock in the morning to play when someone else can not. The playing field is more level and based upon knowledge and skill ... I imagine...!

Anyway as KOE says above, this new direction is largely about points acquisition and reaching the top .. but then the game is about winning so why not!

[AAFitz]

Rebel-- i'm not putting anyone in any category. only thing in common was that you posted about the topic.......... no where am i talking about skill level outside the fact that there are many players that say they can climb the scoreboard. i just don't see it.

Yeah... play the 100 games im in right now, and lets see what happens to your score... Only an idiot would play the games I play if they wanted to go for a crown...I can barely keep track of the different types, there are so many... I simply dont have fun playing one type....and check my record in escalating games... I play them just fine... In fact, my score never goes up, unless i join escalating games... they are the only ones that really net me points...Do pat yourself on the back for winning your freestyle escalating games though....You are just amazing

[Scott-Land]

Rebel-- i'm not putting anyone in any category. only thing in common was that you posted about the topic.......... no where am i talking about skill level outside the fact that there are many players that say they can climb the scoreboard. i just don't see it.

You dont see an 1800 point rise in about 2 and half weeks as climbing?

if you want to read what i posted first-- and not make assumptions. i said other players......

as for myself-- let's see. i hate redundant posts but i'll do it again. i started playing freestyle at 3400. i started 30 public seq esc games and 15 private ones. i won maybe 8 of those- so i'm in the hole maybe 250-300 points from those games. 3800 being my all time high......i'm currently at my original rank when i started playing freestyle give or take 80 points. simple math will tell you that i've gained or netted perhaps 250-300 points. if you call that 1800 point rise then you need to go back to elementary school son and take math over again.

[JACKAZZTJM]

u probably r right

skittles and sully , nothing has really really changed ...

But maybe the surprise that stunned me

that players are only playing freestyle now ....when sequential was about everything when i used to be around .... and the points getting higher .... probably its nothing just i was surprised .... or it is something

and something should be done ...

as for u codeblue ... ummm u can actually GFY! or really get laid ... but u need to do something

O shut the hell up you tool no one gives a shit what you do you were gone a month who cares you come in here talking trash like you being gone a month sent the site into shambles.hahahah dude is a moron

[jiminski]

Rebel-- i'm not putting anyone in any category. only thing in common was that you posted about the topic.......... no where am i talking about skill level outside the fact that there are many players that say they can climb the scoreboard. i just don't see it.

You dont see an 1800 point rise in about 2 and half weeks as climbing?

if you want to read what i posted first-- and not make assumptions. i said other players......

as for myself-- let's see. i hate redundant posts but i'll do it again. i started playing freestyle at 3400. i started 30 public seq esc games and 15 private ones. i won maybe 8 of those- so i'm in the hole maybe 250-300 points from those games. 3800 being my all time high......i'm currently at my original rank when i started playing freestyle give or take 80 points. simple math will tell you that i've gained or netted perhaps 250-300 points. if you call that 1800 point rise then you need to go back to elementary school son and take math over again.

he meant his point rise is 1800 Scott

[AAFitz]

Rebel-- i'm not putting anyone in any category. only thing in common was that you posted about the topic.......... no where am i talking about skill level outside the fact that there are many players that say they can climb the scoreboard. i just don't see it.

You dont see an 1800 point rise in about 2 and half weeks as climbing?

if you want to read what i posted first-- and not make assumptions. i said other players......

as for myself-- let's see. i hate redundant posts but i'll do it again. i started playing freestyle at 3400. i started 30 public seq esc games and 15 private ones. i won maybe 8 of those- so i'm in the hole maybe 250-300 points from those games. 3800 being my all time high......i'm currently at my original rank when i started playing freestyle give or take 80 points. simple math will tell you that i've gained or netted perhaps 250-300 points. if you call that 1800 point rise then you need to go back to elementary school son and take math over again.

he meant his point rise is 1800 Scott

elementary school teaches to understand such things n'est pas???

[Scott-Land]

ohh why did he quote me-- i didn't post anything about him.