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Who is the Best CC Player:

Poll ended at Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:52 pm

 
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Postby wacicha on Sun Jun 24, 2007 12:48 pm

Wacicha was not there for a very good reason he is a multi his alter ego is hector and you can not vote for 2
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Postby dcowboys055 on Sun Jun 24, 2007 12:48 pm

I'd say blitz and jork, but i voted for blitz since he held the top spot for a billion days in a row and had that crazy high score of 4000 something.
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Postby spinwizard on Sun Jun 24, 2007 12:50 pm

There are loads of ppl on their that i would vote 4 but my vote goes to Roger Dodger.
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Postby KomradeKloininov on Sun Jun 24, 2007 1:15 pm

I'd have to say maniacmath17 because anyone who can wrap up that many points in single-player games has to be absolutely amazing.
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Postby maniacmath17 on Sun Jun 24, 2007 1:30 pm

AAFitz wrote:
maniacmath17 wrote:well i voted for myself, lol. but i guess maybe it's harder to win with experienced players on your team playing a bunch of n00bs, haha. 8)


he said no flaming...lol


I actually meant it as a compliment towards those who are able to maintain a high rank despite playing mostly team games. 8)
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Postby morenoking24 on Sun Jun 24, 2007 3:07 pm

Fireside easily. He would have destroyed me yesterday in our 1v1 game, but he had about the worse luck on the dice I've ever seen.
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Postby Bobbi on Sun Jun 24, 2007 3:10 pm

I voted Blitz :D Excellent player and fantastic sportspersonship :D
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Postby AAFitz on Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:31 pm

maniacmath17 wrote:
AAFitz wrote:
maniacmath17 wrote:well i voted for myself, lol. but i guess maybe it's harder to win with experienced players on your team playing a bunch of n00bs, haha. 8)


he said no flaming...lol


I actually meant it as a compliment towards those who are able to maintain a high rank despite playing mostly team games. 8)


i read it a few more times...and now i see thats the case....it really does seem like a gentle peck at team players...but then i tend to see sarcasm in every post....I wonder why that is....

for the record, I didnt even vote for me..(or anyone)....but carrie did...it really is embarassing, though I do hope I beat fireside in votes... :D
which isnt going to happen since my honesty has cost me a few...Ill live
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Postby Kugelblitz22 on Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:35 pm

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Postby Gold Knight on Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:39 pm

Id have to say as of now it would be Yosevuk, mainly because hes #1 on the leaderboard. Usually when your number one you are better then #2,#3 and so on. But that doesnt mean under certain game settings that he is better than everyone...
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Postby Nephilim on Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:08 pm

Gold Knight wrote:Id have to say as of now it would be Yosevuk, mainly because hes #1 on the leaderboard. Usually when your number one you are better then #2,#3 and so on. But that doesnt mean under certain game settings that he is better than everyone...


naw mate, that's not how it works. it's easier to get points from team games. this has to be taken into account. however, i think this vote should be about overall best player.

thus i vote for david wain. i think mm17 is the best singles player, but there are some close behind him. and wain is the most solid doubles player i've seen. he's also a damn fine singles player. knows his stuff, thinks ahead, rarely makes mistakes.

overall, i think this poll is doo-doo. the list of names, both in the poll and in the supplemental list, is inexplicable. but what are ya gonna do....
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Postby naktay01 on Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:30 pm

why vote? no one else has scored 4600 points.
Blitzaholic. changed the game. All of them are great players but the score says it all. if that changes maybe then have a vote. He changed the way the game is played. Like it or not. He was smart enough to figure it out better then anyone.
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Postby reverend_kyle on Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:15 am

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote:I wonder who JOHNNYROCKET's only vote is? :roll:


I have more than 1 vote. Again, you are wrong with your facts. Someday you will post something accurately.



Incorrect, actually you are wrong with your facts.

4 hours earlier when I posted that you did have only one vote, dumbass. I see you got 3 in between then.

You're still a tool, and not very smart.
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Postby AAFitz on Mon Jun 25, 2007 7:56 am

naktay01 wrote:why vote? no one else has scored 4600 points.
Blitzaholic. changed the game. All of them are great players but the score says it all. if that changes maybe then have a vote. He changed the way the game is played. Like it or not. He was smart enough to figure it out better then anyone.


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Postby AAFitz on Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:11 am

Nephilim wrote:
Gold Knight wrote:Id have to say as of now it would be Yosevuk, mainly because hes #1 on the leaderboard. Usually when your number one you are better then #2,#3 and so on. But that doesnt mean under certain game settings that he is better than everyone...


naw mate, that's not how it works. it's easier to get points from team games. this has to be taken into account. however, i think this vote should be about overall best player.

thus i vote for david wain. i think mm17 is the best singles player, but there are some close behind him. and wain is the most solid doubles player i've seen. he's also a damn fine singles player. knows his stuff, thinks ahead, rarely makes mistakes.

overall, i think this poll is doo-doo. the list of names, both in the poll and in the supplemental list, is inexplicable. but what are ya gonna do....


the list is compiled by a new player, and im sure the feedback and postings were confused with playing ability, which is how fireside and I ended up on there...not to say fireside isnt great...but he has never focused on points, so his points will never go to the top...as far as dave, hes great...but id play against him in no cards any day compared to laz long...and he has almost twice as many games as mm17 and hasnt touched his score...or winning percentage i believe your a little biased in your vote on this one

the problem with the whole thing is in what you posted....david is a great doubles player...problem is, MM17 or the other players may be too, its just they dont play them, so making the comparison is just too hard...

and...every game played is played against different people, so that throws off everything...the only true measure really would be grouping the top 15 or 20, and having a tourney...problem is, it would have to be a big one, and very diverse...they'd have to win trips, doubles, escalating, no cards...etc to really be considered the best...my guess is no one player would do that...luck for one thing would intervene, as would the fact that no one player is probably the best at every game...the trick would be to find the player who was best at one or two, and close to the top in the others...and again...luck would still intervene

The problem with the whole idea right now, is that every player sets up different kinds of games against different kinds of players...to the point where it is almost like comparing baseball players and basketball players...Mike could sure dunk one, but man did he have a hard time hitting a fast ball.

but I agree the list isnt really a great one to choose from...but it was a rookie I believe, who's just trying to figure things out, and have some fun...Hes a positive guy, and a good player, he just isnt quite experienced enough to compile this list just yet....
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Postby chessplaya on Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:18 am

voted other player : wacicha.... if he is not running anymor ethen aafitz

my vote is simply based on : sportsmanship , chatting and strategy

if it was about who is the real top player only strategy involved its got to be : maniacmath17
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Postby boberz on Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:18 am

muskyhunter for me, its not all about the score its about effort, commitment and fun
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Postby Nephilim on Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:34 am

good points fitz. i'm not sure feedback played into it. i think decolombe just compiled a list based on nominations from his other thread. i assume after this poll he will move down to the next 10 or 11 in his big alphabetical list, then a final poll will come out w/ the top 2 or so from each vote.

i certainly agree that it is difficult to choose among all the players, since so many people either play dubs, trips, or singles. as i've said, mm17 is the best singles player imo. but i also think this should be about the best all-around. that essentially excludes mm17, simply b/c he doesn't play team games very often. maybe he would be superb at them, but i have a hard time believing he would be consistently better than folks that constantly play team games. this perspective also blunts your argument about winning percentage, imo. we've gotta look at overall play on all styles


now to defend my choice: i voted wain b/c i think he is close mm17's skill in singles and i think he is the best in team games. i've learned a lot from him. he almost never makes mistakes. i just look around at all the players who play all styles and take my subjective opinion--wain is the best. it's certainly up for debate. i think it should be noted that you are 1-1 vs LazLong, but only 3-8 vs Wain. so while you admit you are more scared of Laz, the stats don't really back you up (too small a sample vs Laz, of course). i should also note that i've never played laz, so i can't compare them.
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Postby oVo on Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:56 am

I too have not encountered any of these guys in a match and can't give a qualified assessment of their superior tactical abilities. I'm in a game with AAfitz right now,
so maybe he will earn my vote by default.



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Postby boberz on Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:35 pm

why does the best player have to be the most skilled why is that the only consideration. My choice was just to make a point, but why cant somebody who is a shining example a nice guy an experienced player that has never deadbeated be the BEST player.
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Postby viperbitex on Mon Jun 25, 2007 4:05 pm

I totally should be on that list...... 8)
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Postby wacicha on Mon Jun 25, 2007 4:31 pm

The truth is - If you feel you should be on the list then you should NOT be
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Postby Ninja-Town on Mon Jun 25, 2007 4:48 pm

You should have named the list better, people are reading that thinking that poll is for the best player. However the last thread was about who you thought the best person to play with was. It's kind of like,

"It's not important how you won or lost, but how you played the game."

To me Blitz is the best player, (and nothing against blitz) but I constantly see xMBKx play with noobs and middle ranked guys like me. He is in it to have fun. Nothing else. And loves to teach players how to become better players.
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Postby RiskTycoon on Mon Jun 25, 2007 4:56 pm

Ninja-Town wrote:To me Blitz is the best player, (and nothing against blitz) but I constantly see xMBKx play with noobs and middle ranked guys like me. He is in it to have fun. Nothing else. And loves to teach players how to become better players.
Blitz taught me everything I know just about and he started playing with me when I had only 1200 points.....
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Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Mon Jun 25, 2007 7:06 pm

RiskTycoon wrote:
Ninja-Town wrote:To me Blitz is the best player, (and nothing against blitz) but I constantly see xMBKx play with noobs and middle ranked guys like me. He is in it to have fun. Nothing else. And loves to teach players how to become better players.
Blitz taught me everything I know just about and he started playing with me when I had only 1200 points.....


im sorry to hear that. Good thing you shacked up with JR now :wink: Now your ready to win some points :roll:
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