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Are you happy with the dice?

Poll ended at Sat Jan 15, 2011 6:59 am

 
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Re: 30 Day Dice Poll

Postby Bones2484 on Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:18 pm

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Ambiguous Crappy Poll

A theory introduced to civilization at the onset of the internet. Ambiguous Crappy Poll (ACP) is a disease that gives posters the impression that they are actually coming up with something new and original despite not having made any contribution to anything at all. A side affect of ACP is Unwarranted Self Importance (USI) as it makes the poster feel more important than they actually are as if they are on the cutting edge of ground-breaking research. For an example, see here.


The Foundry has long known about this syndrome, and it has been much discussed and chuckled at since the onset of map production.


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Re: 30 Day Dice Poll

Postby owenshooter on Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:14 pm

Bones2484 wrote:
lordhaha wrote:
Ambiguous Crappy Poll

A theory introduced to civilization at the onset of the internet. Ambiguous Crappy Poll (ACP) is a disease that gives posters the impression that they are actually coming up with something new and original despite not having made any contribution to anything at all. A side affect of ACP is Unwarranted Self Importance (USI) as it makes the poster feel more important than they actually are as if they are on the cutting edge of ground-breaking research. For an example, see here.


The Foundry has long known about this syndrome, and it has been much discussed and chuckled at since the onset of map production.


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Re: 30 Day Dice Poll

Postby Timminz on Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:34 pm

Bones2484 wrote:
lordhaha wrote:
Ambiguous Crappy Poll

A theory introduced to civilization at the onset of the internet. Ambiguous Crappy Poll (ACP) is a disease that gives posters the impression that they are actually coming up with something new and original despite not having made any contribution to anything at all. A side affect of ACP is Unwarranted Self Importance (USI) as it makes the poster feel more important than they actually are as if they are on the cutting edge of ground-breaking research. For an example, see here.


The Foundry has long known about this syndrome, and it has been much discussed and chuckled at since the onset of map production.


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It seems someone has confused the 'edit' button for the 'quote' button.
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Re: 30 Day Dice Poll

Postby Victor Sullivan on Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:29 pm

Lol, admin fail.
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Re: 30 Day Dice Poll

Postby karelpietertje on Sat Jan 01, 2011 9:42 am

pmchugh wrote:
Bones2484 wrote:
Crazyirishman wrote:
pmchugh wrote:The question is ambigious.


The "are you happy" part is really vague.


Am I happy with the fairness? Am I happy with the results? Am I happy with a random sequence of rolls in a recent game that I lost way more than I should?

Stupid poll. Question should be "Do you believe the dice to be random?", not "Are you happy with the dice?". The question at hand will tell you absolutely nothing.


Exactly what I meant.

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Re: 30 Day Dice Poll

Postby PonyGal on Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:44 am

Am I happy with the dice ? Hmmmmm lets see ....

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After about a solid month of losing more troops than I gain in virtually any given battle (ok maybe only about 75% of the time, but its a tough slog to get anywhere.. the rare time I am winning I find some cook suicides into me for no logical reason) I decided a few hours ago to download this add on so i could atleast track how incredibly streaky my dice have been without being accused of being biased (sorry ive only got these 3 last game moves made since the download, but believe me they are indicative, and im happy to send more as I make my turns - these rolls have lasted for atleast 3 weeks now. :lol: Ask my triples partners VestedPower and Das Killa when last week i attacked with 20 v 5 and lost 17 troops to the opponents 1 troop, I stopped when 20 v 5 became 3 v 4. Or yesterday when I almost owned scandanavia with a 7 on one side and a 4 on the other with some opponents 1 in the middle: I lost the 7 and then the 4. We are all 1 1 1 now, so that was a thrill. I never attack 3 v 1 it works for me less than 10% of the time, my losses today were made with a 5 v 3 bare minimum but I dont even like doing that lately, (7 v 3 average rolls made), Ive lost 4 ranks in 3 weeks and I think I win about one in four dice rolls on average... and heres a print of my defence dice ....

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Pretty streaky!!!Pretty much totally unbeatable every time - all the strategy in the world wont save you from a streak of double sixes all day long. Note that appx 50% of those are a 5 or 6.. more than 33% are sixes - and most of those are double sixes. Im lucky to gain a territory really. I never attack below 5 v 1, and even then im lucky if i get it.
And for all the "oh its poor strategy stop whinging" ppl - would you be happy with these dice? Hard to win no matter what your strategy when your troop count declines per turn. I think at best today i could say I "broke even" wahoo!!! Same as if id not played a move whatsoever.
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Re: 30 Day Dice Poll

Postby PonyGal on Sun Jan 02, 2011 11:07 am

* and I dont care if its 'not a bitching poll' : "are u happy with the dice" is such a BS nowhere question. Dont start a conversation topic if you dont want ppl to comment and justify their reasoning. Its not a freekin referendum, get over yourself. If you dont like it, dont ask the question to start with, I am entitled to explain exactly *why* i am unhappy with the dice. Infact had I not, like every other person whos dared question the almight intensity cube gods, id have been accused of making the whole thing up .. ok heres my move 2mins ago (5 v 2 and then in desperatiion 5 v 3) Then I did like I usually do, forget trying for a spoil and start round one of every game with 11 regions while everyone else has 15 or so.

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Re: 30 Day Dice Poll

Postby PonyGal on Sun Jan 02, 2011 11:15 am

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Anyone still think strategy counts if youre working with this ? :sick:
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Re: 30 Day Dice Poll

Postby oldrisky44 on Mon Jan 03, 2011 10:51 am

I was waiting for another one of these posts. I played a REAL game of RISK on the board with REAL dice with my kids this weekend.

I saw the same streaks as I see here. In fact if anything I saw more draw results (win 1 lose 1) with the real dice.

The dice here are random and act randomly.

Give up. And I'm not voting because I'm too self-important.
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Re: 30 Day Dice Poll

Postby Mach1tosh on Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:19 pm

They suck, plain and simple. I've had it.
I attack 6 with 22 and lose 6 on the first 3 rolls this morning, defense rolled nothing but 6s (4) & 5s (2). Random my ass, this site sucks and the moderators have their heads either in the sand or the clouds.
Done, outta here.
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Re: 30 Day Dice Poll

Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:11 am

Yeah, frick this shoot. randomz my AZZ. I just rolled and lost troops. The injustice! my AZZ losing troops! Friggin' sooky dice. Randomz dice? More like NON-randomz.

AZZ Sand-Cloud Moderators and their heads.

Peace outta.


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Re: 30 Day Dice Poll

Postby Victor Sullivan on Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:38 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Yeah, frick this shoot. randomz my AZZ. I just rolled and lost troops. The injustice! my AZZ losing troops! Friggin' sooky dice. Randomz dice? More like NON-randomz.

AZZ Sand-Cloud Moderators and their heads.

Peace outta.


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Re: 30 Day Dice Poll

Postby Ace Rimmer on Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:25 pm

two words

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Re: 30 Day Dice Poll

Postby lordhaha on Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:58 pm

PonyGal wrote:* and I dont care if its 'not a bitching poll' : "are u happy with the dice" is such a BS nowhere question. Dont start a conversation topic


"30 Day Dice Poll" not 30 day dice conversation :roll:

Anyway thanks to the people that could read and follow a simple request =D> , as for the rest 8-[ , well, I don't really care ;)
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Re: 30 Day Dice Poll

Postby nikola_milicki on Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:23 pm

ppl dont like rolling 1-13 in one game and then 13-1 in the next one and that happens way too often here, and shit like losing 20vs6 NEVER EVER happens in real risk just here, thats why everybody think dice suck, they beat lottery odds too often, its ridiculous!

everybody who thinks 13-1 and then 1-13 is random is just stupid..
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Re: 30 Day Dice Poll

Postby Victor Sullivan on Thu Jan 06, 2011 6:32 am

It hasnt been thirty days yet...
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Re: 30 Day Dice Poll

Postby Woodruff on Thu Jan 06, 2011 7:33 am

nikola_milicki wrote:ppl dont like rolling 1-13 in one game and then 13-1 in the next one and that happens way too often here, and shit like losing 20vs6 NEVER EVER happens in real risk just here, thats why everybody think dice suck, they beat lottery odds too often, its ridiculous!


I'm pretty sure you didn't play that much "real Risk" either.

nikola_milicki wrote:everybody who thinks 13-1 and then 1-13 is random is just stupid..


Spoken like someone who doesn't understand the term.
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Re: 30 Day Dice Poll

Postby Mach1tosh on Thu Jan 06, 2011 7:57 am

Woodruff wrote:
nikola_milicki wrote:ppl dont like rolling 1-13 in one game and then 13-1 in the next one and that happens way too often here, and shit like losing 20vs6 NEVER EVER happens in real risk just here, thats why everybody think dice suck, they beat lottery odds too often, its ridiculous!


I'm pretty sure you didn't play that much "real Risk" either.

nikola_milicki wrote:everybody who thinks 13-1 and then 1-13 is random is just stupid..


Spoken like someone who doesn't understand the term.


I have played Risk for over 40 years. If the dice on the board game were as fucked up as the ones here I'd melt them down and make coasters with them. The dice here suck, not even the illusion of randomness in my opinion. Too bad as the rest of the site is ok.
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Re: 30 Day Dice Poll

Postby patsfan12 on Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:25 am

people stop this bitchin
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Re: 30 Day Dice Poll

Postby lordhaha on Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:01 am

Victor Sullivan wrote:It hasnt been thirty days yet...

was a poll with a request of no posting which turned into a bitching thread. So I asked clapper to unsticky and leave it drop to the bottom with all the other dice bitching threads. :roll:
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Re: 30 Day Dice Poll

Postby Lubawski on Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:12 am

I generally think the randomizer is ok, so I decided to check it out. I've been having a bad run the last few weeks and wanted numbers to back up the feeling of sucking lately. According to my dice analyzer (it's a great add-on by the way), over my last 1000+ attacking rolls of 3 dice vs. 2 dice, I've won 2-0 31.74% of the time, went 1-1 34.13%, and 0-2 34.13%. It's supposed to average to 37.17% - 33.58% - 29.26%. So I roll 0-2 5% more often than I should and 2-0 6% less often than I should. My dice have been below average lately, but 1000 rolls is not that many statistically speaking, so I don't hold much weight with the results. That the dice are streaky, I agree. I hope my streak does a 180.
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Re: 30 Day Dice Poll

Postby nikola_milicki on Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:21 am

Woodruff wrote:
nikola_milicki wrote:ppl dont like rolling 1-13 in one game and then 13-1 in the next one and that happens way too often here, and shit like losing 20vs6 NEVER EVER happens in real risk just here, thats why everybody think dice suck, they beat lottery odds too often, its ridiculous!


I'm pretty sure you didn't play that much "real Risk" either.

nikola_milicki wrote:everybody who thinks 13-1 and then 1-13 is random is just stupid..


Spoken like someone who doesn't understand the term.


I played enough to know there is something wrong here

u know what, f*ck random, Im sick of this word, it means shit, after everything I have experienced rolling here theres nothing that can convince me dice are fine
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Re: 30 Day Dice Poll

Postby AndyDufresne on Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:34 pm

nikola_milicki wrote:u know what, f*ck random, Im sick of this word, it means shit, after everything I have experienced rolling here theres nothing that can convince me dice are fine


That's generally the issue with these type of discussions. Somewhere in another topic I mentioned:
"Intensity Cubes are a little like politics. More often than not, you'll never win someone over to your side with any amount of evidence/hearsay/inference one can muster."

This applies to both sides of the argument---those who see things as fine, and those who see things as broken or out of whack.


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Re: 30 Day Dice Poll

Postby nikola_milicki on Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:47 pm

its more about what kind of evidence u bring, and I dont think theres any evidence or w/e that will convince us that dice are ok with all the lottery odds attack wins/loses, etc...
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Re: 30 Day Dice Poll

Postby TheForgivenOne on Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:10 am

nikola_milicki wrote:ppl dont like rolling 1-13 in one game and then 13-1 in the next one and that happens way too often here, and shit like losing 20vs6 NEVER EVER happens in real risk just here, thats why everybody think dice suck, they beat lottery odds too often, its ridiculous!

everybody who thinks 13-1 and then 1-13 is random is just stupid..


I've defeated an 11 with only 1 troop before on the board game :-s Is that supposed to happen?

Maybe they beat the lottery more often because they get thrown so often, that you reach those lottery odds faster?

And I don't think the dice suck. I actually like them, and that is not the moderator in me talking. I liked them even before I became one.
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