Abuse of power

by **Dukasaur** on Sat Dec 31, 2011 5:43 am

owenshooter wrote:
merch313 wrote:Ok Pack.... I like all you guys.. But there was no abuse of power... He checked everyone he played against. He played lots of games...

please show me any other member with over 30 wins via multi busts. i believe i have had ONE bust in all my games... ONE... abuse, period. someone said his 1v1 win rate via busts is 40%!!! that is insane!-el Jesus negro

But how many would you have if you could and did investigate everyone you played with?

I think I've won one or maybe two games through busts also, but then I don't have any power to investigate the people I'm playing. Maybe I've played 100 multis now, who knows...

by **nietzsche** on Sat Dec 31, 2011 5:44 am

In the future, if you are accused of cheating or misbehavior at CC, simply state that that wasn't your intention. They have to take your word for it. Simple quote king achilles ruling on eye84free's case. Here:

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=160923&p=3520041#p3520041

by **nietzsche** on Sat Dec 31, 2011 5:46 am

I think more people need to be aware of this:

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=160923&p=3520042#p3519679

Masli is getting away with it. king achilles is favoring over other players effort.

(do not merge, I explained my reasons in the other thread, go read them)

by **hmsps** on Sat Dec 31, 2011 5:53 am

I think the interesting point will be the time logs i.e. Masli knew they were a multi before he joined their games. I do actually respect Masli's decision to step down. Far better to jump before you are pushed.

by **DiM** on Sat Dec 31, 2011 9:23 am

nietzsche wrote:
Masli is getting away with it. king achilles is favoring over other players effort.

OMG OMG OMG

REALLY???

i'm packing my bags right now, telling my family and friends they can celebrate new year without me and going straight to masli's home to kick his ass. then i'll stop by KA's place for more ass kicking.

this is intolerable :evil:

i think you should join me in this quest for justice. together our ass whooping power will be DOUBLE.

by **tec805** on Sat Dec 31, 2011 12:26 pm

DiM wrote:
OMG OMG OMG

(yep, I understand you support the cheat, but still well posted!)

by **Pedronicus** on Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:16 pm

It's a load of bullshit.
Both of the multi hunters should of been sacked, but because both of them get caught at the same time the site can't function without a hunter so one of them is cleared.

What a great way to run a trial.

by **owenshooter** on Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:31 pm

Pedronicus wrote:It's a load of bullshit.
Both of the multi hunters should of been sacked, but because both of them get caught at the same time the site can't function without a hunter so one of them is cleared.

What a great way to run a trial.

amen... in typical CC style, they are just going to let it die down and act as if nothing occurred... and once again, they will lose paying members... the fact that the cleared Multi Hunter stated that he only did it a few times is absolutely ridiculous... CC has sunk to a new low and i really feel as if lack needs to get more involved or bring back Twill to help right the ship... as it is now, the multi hunters are forever suspect and the entire C&A process no longer has integrity. this is a huge mess.-el Jesus negro

by **Dukasaur** on Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:35 pm

Pedronicus wrote:It's a load of bullshit.
Both of the multi hunters should of been sacked, but because both of them get caught at the same time the site can't function without a hunter so one of them is cleared.

What a great way to run a trial.

There's no real evidence against either of them. Masli wasn't sacked; he resigned because he didn't want to deal with this type of toxic situation where people assume guilt and aren't interested in looking for any reasonable explanation.

by **MegasWoman** on Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:44 pm

Since there are so many offended and victimized paying CC customers (although I see some freemies here too-in their case they should just chalk this up to "you get what you pay for"), I think CC should come up with a new policy. Refund the money, boot them from the sight, then let the multihunters run constant checks on them as you KNOW they'll be back and keep 'em off. This site sucks! There is not justice! Good lord it's $30 - give 'em their money back and smack 'em hard with the door on their way out.

by **owenshooter** on Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:47 pm

Dukasaur wrote:There's no real evidence against either of them. Masli wasn't sacked; he resigned because he didn't want to deal with this type of toxic situation where people assume guilt and aren't interested in looking for any reasonable explanation.

you are literally being ridiculous... this has to be the funniest post of the year... the MH squad is now forever tainted and the entire C&A process is beyond suspect. CC is quick to bring the hammer for forum violations, less so for true cheating by people like a certain past conqueror busted while atop the board, and now as a mod you can do whatever you want unless there is a specific rule written against it. i think the new rule reads, "MH's are no longer permitted to win over 40% of there 1v1 games through busts. they must keep the level low enough so the public does not notice or question the practice of illegal point gathering through MH tools." this makes CC look like absolute fools and is a true disrespect to the paying customers. and Masli stepped down because the freight train was coming. i would have loved to have seen the true numbers of busts he made in games he was in. this is dirty. it looks worse than bad and the only people that know what truly happened are masli, eye and King... and none of them are talking... well, except for the half hearted apology that read "i only did it a few times and didn't know it was wrong." just garbage. absolute garbage. something needs to be done because the mod squad just lost a lot of luster.-0

by **jefjef** on Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:50 pm

MegasWoman wrote:Since there are so many offended and victimized paying CC customers (although I see some freemies here too-in their case they should just chalk this up to "you get what you pay for"), I think CC should come up with a new policy. Refund the money, boot them from the sight, then let the multihunters run constant checks on them as you KNOW they'll be back and keep 'em off. This site sucks! There is not justice! Good lord it's $30 - give 'em their money back and smack 'em hard with the door on their way out.

AMEN!

by **Great-Ollie** on Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:52 pm

jefjef wrote:
MegasWoman wrote:Since there are so many offended and victimized paying CC customers (although I see some freemies here too-in their case they should just chalk this up to "you get what you pay for"), I think CC should come up with a new policy. Refund the money, boot them from the sight, then let the multihunters run constant checks on them as you KNOW they'll be back and keep 'em off. This site sucks! There is not justice! Good lord it's $30 - give 'em their money back and smack 'em hard with the door on their way out.

AMEN!

So cute! The CC mod defenders united! dun dun dun

by **John Deere** on Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:52 pm

Dukasaur wrote:
Pedronicus wrote:It's a load of bullshit.
Both of the multi hunters should of been sacked, but because both of them get caught at the same time the site can't function without a hunter so one of them is cleared.

What a great way to run a trial.

There's no real evidence against either of them. Masli wasn't sacked; he resigned because he didn't want to deal with this type of toxic situation where people assume guilt and aren't interested in looking for any reasonable explanation.

take off the blinders and put the crack pipe down, there is way to much evidence for you to make that foolish stayment, no we dont have a recorded conversation :roll:

but it is fact they did this and im sure KA knew so within five minutes of looking but hey he clears one, at least one left so we dont have to waist time on him now

by **Robinette** on Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:54 pm

This kind of a scandal and coverup would make Lincoln roll over in his grave...

Lincoln? What am i saying...

This would make Nixon roll over.

by **John Deere** on Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:57 pm

jefjef wrote:
MegasWoman wrote:Since there are so many offended and victimized paying CC customers (although I see some freemies here too-in their case they should just chalk this up to "you get what you pay for"), I think CC should come up with a new policy. Refund the money, boot them from the sight, then let the multihunters run constant checks on them as you KNOW they'll be back and keep 'em off. This site sucks! There is not justice! Good lord it's $30 - give 'em their money back and smack 'em hard with the door on their way out.

AMEN!

Dont worry you two, one day you will be more than hall monitors, one you two will be MODS! If you keep it up!

by **MegasWoman** on Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:02 pm

Nah...we'll leave the tag team hall monitoring to you and Ollie. I don't have the time and y'all seem to enjoy it so have fun :-)

by **Great-Ollie** on Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:03 pm

MegasWoman wrote:Nah...we'll leave the tag team hall monitoring to you and Ollie. I don't have the time and y'all seem to enjoy it so have fun

Me and JD would be awesome! No bs just facts and fair shakes all around!

by **John Deere** on Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:10 pm

MegasWoman wrote:Nah...we'll leave the tag team hall monitoring to you and Ollie. I don't have the time and y'all seem to enjoy it so have fun

Once again you are clueless to reality, we arent the ones that run around tattling on people to mods, that would be you two, oh and i love how you two run around telling mods how people should be punished! :lol:

Hurry and let jeffy on the computer so he can respond....

by **MegasWoman** on Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:20 pm

Sigh. Really JD...you need to find something more constructive to do with your time. I am rarely in the forums-that's JJ's realm but I AM friends and play with a bunch of mods-including eye84free (xxxooo partner)-and this lynch mob mentality shouldn't be tolerated by them or any of the other paying members on this site who are sick of all of this melodrama created by less than 1% of the members. If you don't like it, leave. Simple. Your $30 bucks gives you the ability to play as many games as you want-thats it. The fact that they even have non paid moderators TRYING to keep things on the up and up is a benefit-not something you PAID for. And if you continue to bait and flame-you will continue to get reported.

by **nippersean** on Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:48 pm

Megas, you know you are a fine woman, and a sex goddess in your spare time. It is just extremely hard to agree with you.
No-one hits 29 games vs multis, that get busted in like 8 minutes. It just doesn't happen.

(If I go 0-10 oh well CC's random dice - it happens.)

When 2 people are consistently doing this - well it stinks. If I8 and Masli are good people for sure, no probs, but are you seriously saying 2 multi hunters joined these games vs ? by accident??

p.s happy new year sweets, and your apparent new bf jj

by **Night Strike** on Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:52 pm

How does this case make the entire C&A process suspect? The only question was about busting players in games the hunter was playing, not about busting any other player. KA has instituted a policy for current and future hunters to abide by that clearly indicates the expectations when playing against a multi. People may not like the decisions made, but that doesn't mean that multi hunters can no longer bust people who break the rules.

by **MegasWoman** on Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:00 pm

nippersean wrote:Megas, you know you are a fine woman, and a sex goddess in your spare time. It is just extremely hard to agree with you.
No-one hits 29 games vs multis, that get busted in like 8 minutes. It just doesn't happen.

(If I go 0-10 oh well CC's random dice - it happens.)

When 2 people are consistently doing this - well it stinks. If I8 and Masli are good people for sure, no probs, but are you seriously saying 2 multi hunters joined these games vs ? by accident??

p.s happy new year sweets, and your apparent new bf jj

No...I'm saying it was a lynch mob...investigated-still lynch mob....decision made-lynch mob didn't agree with it even though they probably aren't aware of all of the behind the scenes stuff that went on...so back to lynch mob.

P.S. Love you too Nipper xo

by **nippersean** on Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:13 pm

Well I certainly hope the MH's (and King A) will carry on doing the fantastic job they have been doing. In an extremely tricky environment, and with great skill. I'll raise a glass!

OK started with Mother Theresa, got through Winston Churchill, Ghandi, Martin Luther King, Nelson Mandela, Rosa Parks, and just hit Brian Clough.............this is going to get messy

by **Denise** on Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:28 pm

I've been following this, it's interesting. That's too bad, coz now it's tempted me into posting my opinion, which is never a good idea. :lol:

Bruceswar wrote:...Anybody who knows Masli at all knows he is by the books all the time. To say he tried to cheat the system is absurd. ...Masli did not care about the points at this time in his cc career.... To the people who really know Masli they know what he did and did not do, as does he. Masli did more for CC than many of you will know. Everything from multi hunting to clan work, to live chat modding. He was just the ultimate CC person and a good guy...

Even if against the odds it is as you say, Masli is innocent, the evidence condemns him. Based on your experience Masli is an honest guy. I don't doubt that he normally is. Many mostly honest people will take advantage of a situation, if it falls into their laps. You also said, "Masli did not care about the points", which is another statement that can't be believed. Players as high on the scoreboard as Masli care about their points. So that statement also discredits everything else you said.

That said, to all the moddon'twannabe's, I am not sure why you are so unhappy with the outcome. Masli has stepped down. He has lost a lot, including his credibility and his mod status. A change has been made to policy. Wasn't that the ultimate goal? Even though KA let eye84free off the hook, he took the blame upon himself, and made changes to make sure this doesn't keep happening. Think about the alternative. If there were no multi-hunters (I'm sure it takes some time to train), then there would be many more cheaters getting away with it. That is also bad for the site and the game and unfair to honest players.