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Postby Armored-Blue on Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:19 am

TTman wrote:How are the dice random when according to the dice analyser you throw an equal number of each dice, surely if they were random they wouldn't be equal?


Hey TTman consider this,
. . . If you are really not convinced that the dice are random, then consider doing an experiment like the one I am about to describe, then post the results. First go to random.org and throw one die, record the result. Then do it again, record the result. Now do it until you have 6 throws of dice recorded. What were your results? Did you get a 1 then a 2 then a 3 then a 4 ect. or did you get a duplicate. Now repeat this set of 6 trails 9 more times until you have thrown the dice a total of 60 times, recording the result from each throw. In any individual set of six throws, you will probably not very often find one of each number, but over time as the number of trials increases you may or may not find that after 60 trails each die gets approximately 1/6 of the rolls, or around 10 each. So randomness then, is the likely-hood that you get almost even results over a large number of throws (or trials).

. . . If after all this you still believe that the dice are not random, then that is fantastic for you, because if it is not random then their must be a pattern, so all you have to do is figure out the pattern and you will probably win almost every game. So good luck to you, and if you want to perform some experiments, or can find someone who will, post the results so we can all see if the dice are random, or if there is a pattern somewhere out there. Good luck TTman!
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Postby comic boy on Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:27 pm

TTman wrote:How are the dice random when according to the dice analyser you throw an equal number of each dice, surely if they were random they wouldn't be equal?


After all these pages you still dont understand what random means do you ! It means the dice are totaly unpredictable so you may get long sequences of good throws and long sequences of bad throws, you can call it good luck or bad luck if you like but over time it evens out.
In other words nobody in the long run gets better dice than anybody else,or better cards,or better drops. You want to win more games then improve your strategy,dedication and choice of games/opponents because thats the way to improve rather than blaming defeats on poor dice all the time.
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Postby Herakilla on Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:18 pm

Armored-Blue wrote:
TTman wrote:How are the dice random when according to the dice analyser you throw an equal number of each dice, surely if they were random they wouldn't be equal?


Hey TTman consider this,
. . . If you are really not convinced that the dice are random, then consider doing an experiment like the one I am about to describe, then post the results. First go to random.org and throw one die, record the result. Then do it again, record the result. Now do it until you have 6 throws of dice recorded. What were your results? Did you get a 1 then a 2 then a 3 then a 4 ect. or did you get a duplicate. Now repeat this set of 6 trails 9 more times until you have thrown the dice a total of 60 times, recording the result from each throw. In any individual set of six throws, you will probably not very often find one of each number, but over time as the number of trials increases you may or may not find that after 60 trails each die gets approximately 1/6 of the rolls, or around 10 each. So randomness then, is the likely-hood that you get almost even results over a large number of throws (or trials).

. . . If after all this you still believe that the dice are not random, then that is fantastic for you, because if it is not random then their must be a pattern, so all you have to do is figure out the pattern and you will probably win almost every game. So good luck to you, and if you want to perform some experiments, or can find someone who will, post the results so we can all see if the dice are random, or if there is a pattern somewhere out there. Good luck TTman!


this would work but do it a total of 600 times so each die gets about 100, itll be more accurate
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Postby kwanton on Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:27 pm

If the dice are so random how come sacrificing a hamster to the dice god can change their outcome?
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Postby Seinfreak on Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:36 am

TTman wrote:How are the dice random when according to the dice analyser you throw an equal number of each dice, surely if they were random they wouldn't be equal?


It all boils down to the fact that you don't understand what "randomness" means. Read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random#Mis ... _fallacies
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Postby Herakilla on Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:15 pm

Seinfreak wrote:
TTman wrote:How are the dice random when according to the dice analyser you throw an equal number of each dice, surely if they were random they wouldn't be equal?


It all boils down to the fact that you don't understand what "randomness" means. Read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random#Mis ... _fallacies


read this first http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm
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Re: If the dice are so random?

Postby silvanricky on Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:41 am

TTman wrote:If the dice are so random then why (in a two player game) don't both players have bad luck or good luck at the same time?

The same for card's?


So if I stay here on conquer club long enough is this what I will sound like?
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