Censorship of profile names

by **britarmy** on Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:08 pm

Just looking for a new game to join and some players names are a bit out of order for example i just so adolf hitler as a profile name is that a bit over board or is just me.

by **SprCobra** on Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:30 pm

They want to look really good with WWII names little do they relaise in the end of the war hitler sucked as a commander...

Bad choice of commander name to rip off

by **alster** on Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:26 pm

britarmy wrote:Just looking for a new game to join and some players names are a bit out of order for example i just so adolf hitler as a profile name is that a bit over board or is just me.

Well. You have an entire clan celebrating the known war-criminal Winston Churchill. Not only the aggressor, declaring war on Germany but also responsible for letting the English air force target civilians killing off millions of German woman and children. But of course, one probably shouldn't have expected something more from a guy that was in the same bed as Stalin...

Thus, your issue was ridiculous. Historical figures have to be taken for what they are. If you need censorship, I suggest that you shouldn't be using the internet to begin with.

by **Corporal Bruiser** on Thu Aug 03, 2006 9:36 pm

Well ive read some crap on here Alster......but that wins the prize for the "most ridiculous post ever" by a country mile.... !!

by **Wildcat** on Thu Aug 03, 2006 10:02 pm

haha, alster is a German who cant get over the fact that even with all the technological break throughs and advanced equipment, the ol' Germans couldnt pull off world domination, and ended up with their pants round their ankles. I'd also say he would also be a campaigner for 'The holocoust never happened' support group.
Lets just call this one Miss Information.

by **KoolBak** on Thu Aug 03, 2006 10:18 pm

Hobbes!! I love it!!

Thanks for the smile (I swiped a copy of your avatar...hope you dont mind!)

by **D.IsleRealBrown** on Thu Aug 03, 2006 11:11 pm

alstergren wrote:
britarmy wrote:Just looking for a new game to join and some players names are a bit out of order for example i just so adolf hitler as a profile name is that a bit over board or is just me.

Well. You have an entire clan celebrating the known war-criminal Winston Churchill. Not only the aggressor, declaring war on Germany but also responsible for letting the English air force target civilians killing off millions of German woman and children. But of course, one probably shouldn't have expected something more from a guy that was in the same bed as Stalin...

Thus, your issue was ridiculous. Historical figures have to be taken for what they are. If you need censorship, I suggest that you shouldn't be using the internet to begin with.

WOW, just WOW.

by **TitusFinn** on Fri Aug 04, 2006 1:34 am

I saw the Adolf Hitler guy too. Kinda' caught me off guard. A bit tasteless for me, but the guy has the right. I bet we'll start seeing Pol Pot or Jean Kambanda. :roll:

by **DIRESTRAITS** on Fri Aug 04, 2006 2:20 am

alstergren wrote:
britarmy wrote:Just looking for a new game to join and some players names are a bit out of order for example i just so adolf hitler as a profile name is that a bit over board or is just me.

Well. You have an entire clan celebrating the known war-criminal Winston Churchill. Not only the aggressor, declaring war on Germany but also responsible for letting the English air force target civilians killing off millions of German woman and children. But of course, one probably shouldn't have expected something more from a guy that was in the same bed as Stalin...

Thus, your issue was ridiculous. Historical figures have to be taken for what they are. If you need censorship, I suggest that you shouldn't be using the internet to begin with.

wtf. Hitler was the aggressor. Churchill told Hitler if he invaded Poland, Britain would go to war with Germany. Further, when civilians are working in and living around factories manufacturing war materials, they cant be considered innocent. how many brits and americans do you think were killed by german u-boats?

by **alster** on Fri Aug 04, 2006 2:53 am

DIRESTRAITS wrote:
alstergren wrote:Thus, your issue was ridiculous. Historical figures have to be taken for what they are. If you need censorship, I suggest that you shouldn't be using the internet to begin with.

wtf. Hitler was the aggressor. Churchill told Hitler if he invaded Poland, Britain would go to war with Germany. Further, when civilians are working in and living around factories manufacturing war materials, they cant be considered innocent. how many brits and americans do you think were killed by german u-boats?

Jebus... I have no intention to discuss any WW2 issues here. My key points was first that historical persons cannot be judged by today's standard. History is history. Hitler was part of WW2 history. If his name pops up as a CC alias, that's as unexpected as seeing Churchill, Stalin, Roosevelt etc. as alias (guys who all have a shitload of blood on their hands). Second, if you don't want to see a particular name, you shouldn't go on the internet to begin with (which, after all, is a place where you may be able to see all kinds of offending and tasteless material).

Any history discussions could be taken to the off-topic section.

by **reverend_kyle** on Fri Aug 04, 2006 3:14 am

alstergren wrote:
DIRESTRAITS wrote:
alstergren wrote:Thus, your issue was ridiculous. Historical figures have to be taken for what they are. If you need censorship, I suggest that you shouldn't be using the internet to begin with.

wtf. Hitler was the aggressor. Churchill told Hitler if he invaded Poland, Britain would go to war with Germany. Further, when civilians are working in and living around factories manufacturing war materials, they cant be considered innocent. how many brits and americans do you think were killed by german u-boats?

Jebus... I have no intention to discuss any WW2 issues here. My key points was first that historical persons cannot be judged by today's standard. History is history. Hitler was part of WW2 history. If his name pops up as a CC alias, that's as unexpected as seeing Churchill, Stalin, Roosevelt etc. as alias (guys who all have a shitload of blood on their hands). Second, if you don't want to see a particular name, you shouldn't go on the internet to begin with (which, after all, is a place where you may be able to see all kinds of offending and tasteless material).

Any history discussions could be taken to the off-topic section.

For the most part I agree with what he says about the name thing.. although I dont believe in what he says about churchill.. but that IS for off topics.

by **alster** on Fri Aug 04, 2006 3:33 am

reverend_kyle wrote:For the most part I agree with what he says about the name thing.. although I dont believe in what he says about churchill.. but that IS for off topics.

Forget Churchill. It was an example. (Personally I find Churchill to be quite likable, and old school Englishman who wasn't ashamed of the Empire and he understood that the Empire brought civilization to all the dark corners of Earth.) Some people don't like Churchill, some people don't like Hitler, some people don't like Stalin etc. The winner writes history. However, to censor historical names are ridiculous. Start with one banned name, and it goes downhill from there. History is rarely black and white.

by **reverend_kyle** on Fri Aug 04, 2006 3:38 am

alstergren wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote:For the most part I agree with what he says about the name thing.. although I dont believe in what he says about churchill.. but that IS for off topics.

Forget Churchill. It was an example. (Personally I find Churchill to be quite likable, and old school Englishman who wasn't ashamed of the Empire and he understood that the Empire brought civilization to all the dark corners of Earth.) Some people don't like Churchill, some people don't like Hitler, some people don't like Stalin etc. The winner writes history. However, to censor historical names are ridiculous. Start with one banned name, and it goes downhill from there. History is rarely black and white.

that is exactly the part I agree with.. hell take that thread where we got off talking about northern Ireland(I believe its hahas flame thread)..

by **TuckerCase** on Fri Aug 04, 2006 4:27 am

alstergren wrote:Hitler was part of WW2 history. If his name pops up as a CC alias, that's as unexpected as seeing Churchill, Stalin, Roosevelt etc. as alias (guys who all have a shitload of blood on their hands).

That may be true, and may be how the matter has to be approached from a standpoint of conqueror club rules, but you know the guy who picked adolf hitler only did it to start a commotion.

by **stevegriffiths23** on Fri Aug 04, 2006 1:36 pm

Alstergren wrote: "you shouldn't go on the internet to begin with (which, after all, is a place where you may be able to see all kinds of offending and tasteless material)."

Exactly, exactly. What is the point of the internet anyway? A bunch of computers hooked together so you can look at pictures of girls in the buff? What's wrong with a good old-fashioned telescope or a shoe mirror?

by **Kenny_Smooth** on Fri Aug 04, 2006 3:15 pm

I support alstergren. Who cares if he has the name Adolf Hitler. If that is what he supports then it's his choice. You have the neame britarmy. Maybe i hate the british (i don't just for the record) should they sensor your name? Personally, I hate hitler but support freedom of expression.

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by **Pedronicus** on Fri Aug 04, 2006 3:39 pm

I like the fact that someone chose Hitler as a name.

Hitler Lost - so this guy is setting himself up for a fall.

We've got a geezer in the Churchill War Cabinet calling himself Nelson. This is a much more positive name to take on board.

I dunno if he's Horatio Nelson or Nelson Mandella - but both were winners in the end :lol:

by **reverend_kyle** on Fri Aug 04, 2006 3:48 pm

Kenny_Smooth wrote:I support alstergren. Who cares if he has the name Adolf Hitler. If that is what he supports then it's his choice. You have the neame britarmy. Maybe i hate the british (i don't just for the record) should they sensor your name? Personally, I hate hitler but support freedom of expression.

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you are from Ireland.. a hatred for the british would make sense..

even though you dont.. I personally like the british.

by **Kenny_Smooth** on Fri Aug 04, 2006 8:26 pm

you are from america, shouldn't you hate them too, they tried to keep your freedom from you.

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by **reverend_kyle** on Sat Aug 05, 2006 3:30 am

Kenny_Smooth wrote:you are from america, shouldn't you hate them too, they tried to keep your freedom from you.

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Ireland and britain have more of a history..

by **Kenny_Smooth** on Sat Aug 05, 2006 9:11 am

yeah, i suppose thats true.

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by **britarmy** on Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:43 am

I think u lost the point completely im not arguing who did what but to have a name of any leader that killed of millions of people cause he didnt like them is going bit far. If certain people want to argue about who killed who put another post on and argue about that. I thought this site would attract people with some coming sense not fuckers that think adolf hitler or any other name is the right one to pick

by **Freetymes** on Wed Aug 09, 2006 7:01 am

britarmy wrote:Just looking for a new game to join and some players names are a bit out of order for example i just so adolf hitler as a profile name is that a bit over board or is just me.

It's just you!

by **alster** on Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:31 am

britarmy wrote:I think u lost the point completely im not arguing who did what but to have a name of any leader that killed of millions of people cause he didnt like them is going bit far. [...] I thought this site would attract people with some coming sense not fuckers that think adolf hitler or any other name is the right one to pick

I agree that the thread went OT. Partly my fault for trying to make a point.

My point is this:
- Adolf Hitler was responsible for a lot of deaths.
- Winston Churchill was responsible for a lot of deaths (most of them civilian casualties).
- Franklin D. Roosevelt was responsible for a lot of deaths (a big part of them civilian) as well as putting people in concentration camps.
- Josef Stalin was responsible for a larger amount of death that most other leaders combined.
- And don't get me started on Mao who almost was as bad as Stalin...

Thus, if you wish to censor the Adolf Hitler name, you'll have a lot of other names going down as well (at least if you wish be consequent in your rationale). The problem is, if you censor one name, you enter into a slippery slope.