the secret of team games

[DiM]

i'm a singles player myself and every time i tried a doubles game i've been slaughtered.

i've teamed up with all kinds of players ranging from cadets to majors, i've taken the role of coordinating the team as well as listening to orders, i've had bad dice and good dice and played on all sorts of maps. and yet my profit from doubles games is -51 (yes minus) and my win ratio is 46.43% which, funny thing, is lower than my singles win ratio (46.48%)

i guess what i'm asking here is what's the secret to team games?
do you coordinate through various messengers? do you use the game chat? do you play only one map with the same player until you learn it perfectly?

i don't want to become a doubs or trips player. i'll play them occasionally in tournaments and i'll mainly stick to my singles (77.17% of my total games). but i do want to find out how other people managed to turn team games into a success story.

[khazalid]

there are some tricks to it. if you know what youre doing then you shouldnt need to coordinate it and it shouldnt matter which map you play.

[chessplaya]

there are some tricks to it. if you know what youre doing then you shouldnt need to coordinate it and it shouldnt matter which map you play.

QFT ,

play as a team

[qeee1]

I think where a lot of people mess up in team games is that they aim for the win too early. Team games are all about eking out small advantages and holding onto them. It doesn't matter if it'll take 5 turns before your advantage becomes apparent, because with only two teams it most likely will. In singles games little advantages don't count for much because with more than one opponent the balance can easily swing back and forth.

Well that's not all team games are about but it helps. It's one of the main differences from singles I think.

[jiminski]

until you know all the patterns of play and potential threats for particular maps, find one or 2 good and communicative partners. I use game chat with mine, we play sequential exclusively.
We started with mainly freestyle (Freestyle can teach you about joint planning however on reflection it is not a fair game)
We do try to play together (coordinated by a pms) that way we find out the best plan we are capable of using our collective intelligence.... mainly we miss less with 4 eyes instead of 2 and it makes it a little more fun.

the most important thing (when you have a partner you know you can trust) is to support your partner; troop them when it is strategically beneficial even at the expense of a less decisive attack by you. etc etc. also take stock of whose go it is next - this is vital.

It's all very simple but a hundred simple things can make something very complicated.



If that fails Listen to Sir Titus; he has a keen and perceptive mind!

[firstholliday]

Jiminski..... are you sure?

[jiminski]

hehe, no First... not sure at all! now on your bike and take your magic dice with you!

[Sir Titus]

Communication and teamwork. If you've got a partner who talks to you, discusses the layout of the map and you come up with a battle plan together, then you're set.

I, however, got that ass firstholliday as a partner and he never listens to anything I say.

[Uberwald]

lol

[wcaclimbing]

1. Play on a map that you know. nothing beats a good understanding of the map you are on.
2. Play with someone you know from outside CC. (you will understand them better and work with them better)
3. Communicate using one of the various IM clients (AIM, YIM, Trillian, MSN, etc...) Game chat can be too slow for a good strategy to be formed. Fast communication is key for a freestyle or RT game.


Just a strategy i like to do sometimes:
one of the teammates goes for the largest continent.
your opponents will spend all their time breaking that continent, while the other teammate slowly cleans them off the map. Attacking your big continent leaves them without armies to defend themselves and not attacking it gives your team a huge bonus.

[Syzygy]

Regular, same teammates helps a lot for some. Maybe team up with a regular partner?

[misterman10]

I'm with you DiM. I don't like playing doubles or triples, mostly because I play my own style of CC and hate it when someone else plays differently on my team. I think the most important thing for dubs is to communicate well. And if its an rt dubs, its easier to use AIM or skype.

[Genghis Khan CA]

Uncle Genghis's tips:

1) When you're just starting communicating well is important - by talking through strategy you will spell out the thought processes behind your decisions. As you gain experience you will no longer need to discuss strategy much with your partner.

2) Work with your partner. Your partner's troops are yours and your troops are your partner's. Exchange troops freely, don't be afraid to make sacrifices for the good of the team, and expect the same from your teammate.

3) Know your partner. Everyone has a different style - play lots of games together and you will get to know that style, and you can predict what your partner will be thinking. You can then make decisions based on that which will result in the best use of your troops.

4) Be aggressive. The dice are supposed to favour the attacker... so attack! In team games (excluding 6p doubles) it is your team against theirs, so you have nothing to gain by holding back potential attacking troops. However, there are times when it is wise to hold a little back, you need to learn when those times are from experience.

5) Think ahead. Consider everything that may happen before your next turn and your partner's next turn and try to counter it/use it to your advantage.

6) Play lots of different maps and settings. This is the best way to improve your game, you will learn the need to be flexible and how to devise new strategies on the spot. This will then help you to be creative on the maps and settings you are better on, which could serve you well in tight situations.

That's probably a good starting point Everything else you need to pick up 'on the job' so to speak.