Dirty trick?

by **johhny-turbo** on Wed Aug 01, 2007 3:03 pm

In a freestyle game I'm playing a player took his turn but didn't end which enabled him to play another consecutive turn. Is this legal?

by **wicked** on Wed Aug 01, 2007 3:06 pm

It's a loophole we're looking to fix. I suggest leaving feedback to warn others of this person's tactics.

by **alster** on Wed Aug 01, 2007 3:55 pm

johhny-turbo wrote:In a freestyle game I'm playing a player took his turn but didn't end which enabled him to play another consecutive turn. Is this legal?

Why are you upset? You know that going first is an advantage, so if you're first in line in a round, why do you feel entitled to maintain this advantage just like that?

Besides, that's a move that only works as the clock for a round turns. Just make sure you're there when the rounds turn and you're as safe as you can be.

Another move is simply to let the clock run out, then move with double armies. Perfectly within the rules, but easy to protect yourself against.

by **wicked** on Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:04 pm

Or better yet, if you don't like tactics like this, play sequential. ;-)

by **alster** on Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:36 pm

LOL. Ja...

by **NOHIBBERTNO** on Wed Aug 01, 2007 9:49 pm

alstergren wrote:LOL. Ja...

yOUR JUST DEFENDING A CRAPPY TACTIC WHICH U CLEARLY USE WAAAY TOO MUCH JUDGINF BY YOUR FEEDBACK

by **eyeofdeath** on Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:58 pm

NOHIBBERTNO wrote:
alstergren wrote:LOL. Ja...

yOUR JUST DEFENDING A CRAPPY TACTIC WHICH U CLEARLY USE WAAAY TOO MUCH JUDGINF BY YOUR FEEDBACK

I NOW ITZ SO STUUPID TAHT TACTIC IS DUM I HAT PEOPLE WHO USE TAHT!!!!! OMG!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!111

by **BeastofBurson** on Thu Aug 02, 2007 12:31 am

eyeofdeath wrote:
NOHIBBERTNO wrote:
alstergren wrote:LOL. Ja...

yOUR JUST DEFENDING A CRAPPY TACTIC WHICH U CLEARLY USE WAAAY TOO MUCH JUDGINF BY YOUR FEEDBACK

I NOW ITZ SO STUUPID TAHT TACTIC IS DUM I HAT PEOPLE WHO USE TAHT!!!!! OMG!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!111

quiet down the kids are sleeping... :-$

by **misterman10** on Thu Aug 02, 2007 12:34 am

BeastofBurson wrote:quiet down the kids are sleeping...

too late, i already got awakened O:)

by **chessplaya** on Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:45 am

johhny-turbo wrote:In a freestyle game I'm playing a player took his turn but didn't end which enabled him to play another consecutive turn. Is this legal?

hmmmm thats cool

by **alster** on Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:54 am

eyeofdeath wrote:
NOHIBBERTNO wrote:
alstergren wrote:LOL. Ja...

yOUR JUST DEFENDING A CRAPPY TACTIC WHICH U CLEARLY USE WAAAY TOO MUCH JUDGINF BY YOUR FEEDBACK

I NOW ITZ SO STUUPID TAHT TACTIC IS DUM I HAT PEOPLE WHO USE TAHT!!!!! OMG!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!111

LOL. You two looks like a multi judging from your similar reaction and lack of language capabilities...

It's not a stupid tactic. It's a good one. Again, if you're going first/ending in a freestyle round 1, you have an advantage. And you now it. Why shouldn't the other guy be able to restore some balance to the game in a smart way? I see no reson for words like "crappy" and "stupid" here. It's freestyle, not sequential. People are making up too many rules of their own with respect to freestyle. That, on the other hand, is indeed stupid and crappy.

by **Haddaway** on Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:22 am

NOHIBBERTNO wrote:
alstergren wrote:LOL. Ja...

yOUR JUST DEFENDING A CRAPPY TACTIC WHICH U CLEARLY USE WAAAY TOO MUCH JUDGINF BY YOUR FEEDBACK

CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL

(but you still have to steer)

by **NOHIBBERTNO** on Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:24 am

Haddaway wrote:
NOHIBBERTNO wrote:
alstergren wrote:LOL. Ja...

yOUR JUST DEFENDING A CRAPPY TACTIC WHICH U CLEARLY USE WAAAY TOO MUCH JUDGINF BY YOUR FEEDBACK

CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL

(but you still have to steer)

U ONLY HAVE TO STEER IF UR RETARDED.....

by **gimil** on Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:27 am

Haddaway wrote:
NOHIBBERTNO wrote:
alstergren wrote:LOL. Ja...

yOUR JUST DEFENDING A CRAPPY TACTIC WHICH U CLEARLY USE WAAAY TOO MUCH JUDGINF BY YOUR FEEDBACK

CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL

(but you still have to steer)

I believe this phrase was stole from unriggable who i have sig'ed.

by **Keebs2674** on Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:33 am

alstergren - It's a cheap, underhanded tactic. Obviously, if wicked calls it a loophole and is trying to fix it then it's not something that you're supposed to be doing. It's lame.

by **alster** on Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:42 am

Keebs2674 wrote:alstergren - It's a cheap, underhanded tactic. Obviously, if wicked calls it a loophole and is trying to fix it then it's not something that you're supposed to be doing. It's lame.

LOL. It's perhaps a loophole. But it's been there forever.

And, more importantly, there are two rules (rule 1 and 2). Besides them, every player should learn the game engine and act properly. For example, if you don't like this and are very upset by it being used, why not play sequential instead?

Besides, you looose out on it if using it in a cards game. By not ending, you get no card. And this is an advantage for the other guy. So it's not always a great thing. And it's easy to protect yourself against it. Why don't you put your energy into that instead of being upset by it?

I use this move now and then for good reasons. For example, in a recent game the other player missed a turn, entered a few hours after the next round opened, he cashed in double armies, swept two (I think) continents and secured them. I wasn't to pleased, but pulled this move. Managing to partly break him before the next round was up, forted up some guys, continued once the time was up and the new round opened and broke him completely. It was a way to counter the benefit those double armies gave him. Had he been there, it wouldn't have worked. I fail to see why this would be cheap though. Since the game engine allows for missing turns/double armies as well, I don't think using this move equally allowed by the game engine is problematic. It's just part of freestyle.

by **Coleman** on Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:30 am

And now, for all alstergreen should of had to say:

alstergren wrote:It's just part of freestyle.

It's just a part of freestyle should be the standard response for anyone that whines about anything that happens during it if it isn't breaking one of the two rules.

by **MeDeFe** on Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:39 am

Freestyle used to be ok, then someone realized that they could do shit like that to take advantage of people who have a job, a life, something else to do, or all of those.

Once it's been taken care of I might start playing freestyle again. Until then I'll stick to my sequential games.

by **Keebs2674** on Thu Aug 02, 2007 12:56 pm

alstergren - I don't play freestyle games, only sequential. I'm not upset either. I just registered my opinion.

Just because something isn't against the rules doesn't mean it's acceptable behavior or good gamesmanship.