Round limit reached-split points ?

by **GioDuce** on Sat Jan 11, 2014 7:10 pm

I wonder why i do not split points on this game with lorisbs
We both end up with the same amount of troops and regions in this game. ( lux is a +1 deploy i know ) this does not stand in any rules.

2014-01-12 00:56:03 - Round limit reached, 2 has the most troops followed by the most regions
Game 13857959
I feel ripped of cuz pink wanted to see what would happen.

by **spiesr** on Sat Jan 11, 2014 7:20 pm

The Instructions wrote:Round Limit

With round limits, the game will automatically finish at the end of the specified round. The winner will be the surviving player with the most troops. If there is a tie, it will be broken based on the most regions. If there is still a tie, the winner is selected based on join order. When playing a round limited game with teams, the winning team will be based on combined teamwide troop count. This option is great for avoiding stalemates and can add some spice to the game as the deadline approaches!

by **GioDuce** on Sat Jan 11, 2014 7:40 pm

Tnx for your fast response spiesr and clearing this up for me.

spiesr wrote:
The Instructions wrote:Round Limit

With round limits, the game will automatically finish at the end of the specified round. The winner will be the surviving player with the most troops. If there is a tie, it will be broken based on the most regions. If there is still a tie, the winner is selected based on join order. When playing a round limited game with teams, the winning team will be based on combined teamwide troop count. This option is great for avoiding stalemates and can add some spice to the game as the deadline approaches!

by **Dukasaur** on Sat Jan 11, 2014 7:47 pm

The rule should be changed, but rule changes begin in the Suggestions forum...

by **greenoaks** on Sat Jan 11, 2014 8:18 pm

Dukasaur wrote:The rule should be changed, but rule changes begin in the Suggestions forum...

why should the rule be changed?

i can understand the op being annoyed about not getting points but now that he knows the rules, (& they are simple to understand & clearly state what is required to win) i don't see what should be changed.

by **Dukasaur** on Sat Jan 11, 2014 8:45 pm

greenoaks wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:The rule should be changed, but rule changes begin in the Suggestions forum...

why should the rule be changed?

i can understand the op being annoyed about not getting points but now that he knows the rules, (& they are simple to understand & clearly state what is required to win) i don't see what should be changed.

It makes sense to me that there should be a possibility of a split decision in round limit games.

However, if that is too challenging from a technical viewpoint, and if we need a tiebreaking formula to preserve the logic of the game and have only 1 winner, then I believe it should be something like "terts" or "last deploy" rather than join order. In my tournaments, if there is a chance of a tie and I post tiebreaking rules (and I'll be the first to admit that I usually forget, lol) I will normally put "precendence (join order)" as a tiebreaker of last resort if all others have failed.

Anyway, I would support a change, but it isn't a burning priority, which is why I haven't bothered suggesting it myself.

by **Metsfanmax** on Sat Jan 11, 2014 8:54 pm

greenoaks wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:The rule should be changed, but rule changes begin in the Suggestions forum...

why should the rule be changed?

The rule should be changed because join order is not a relevant metric by which a game winner should be determined. If anything it should be turn order because the last player to go has the strategic advantage in a Round Limits game.

by **GioDuce** on Sun Jan 12, 2014 8:00 am

I think i might post a suggestion about this afther a few good nights of sleep.

The order of wins when round limit can be extended,

Alot of possibilities are possible : player that joined the game first doesn't really make sense of who was the best in game.
=> people will rather make games themself instead of joining games with almost the same sort of setting. Only to have that little more chance on a possible win,Leaving some games open empty.
- the player who has the most troops due ( in this case that would have been Red )
- activity check ( turns missed)
- player order ( strategic advantage )
- regions taken in overall game ( dunno if this is possible in technical way ) game is about conquering...