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Re: how the dice works for newbies, even premium

Postby AslanTheKing on Wed May 30, 2012 3:41 am

rhp 1 wrote:
AslanTheKing wrote:
rhp 1 wrote:dude.. you're bent...


says the guy who lives in a village and plays with chicken,
( i have nothing against villages, its just the possibility that chicken are running around is higher then else )

im not bent but i do think those who are belong still to this earth, as long theyre not after children (same with the nonbent ones of course 2)


ok... so this is obviously just to get the community jigged up.. that's cool.. have fun with that...

and I don't even under understand your random rantings about chickens and villages... I hope you thought it was funny at least...


go back to the subject
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Re: how the dice works for newbies, even premium

Postby Gabriel13 on Wed May 30, 2012 10:16 am

AslanTheKing wrote:
rhp 1 wrote:
AslanTheKing wrote:
rhp 1 wrote:dude.. you're bent...


says the guy who lives in a village and plays with chicken,
( i have nothing against villages, its just the possibility that chicken are running around is higher then else )

im not bent but i do think those who are belong still to this earth, as long theyre not after children (same with the nonbent ones of course 2)


ok... so this is obviously just to get the community jigged up.. that's cool.. have fun with that...

and I don't even under understand your random rantings about chickens and villages... I hope you thought it was funny at least...


go back to the subject


First of all, I'm not a woman. I don't know what your problem is. I'm not taking this seriously. I just want you to know that nobody here is agreeing with you. Nobody. I like how immature you are though! It's fun to find a 6 year old immature little prick on the site every once in a while. You couldn't run a country with a population of one, because obviously, you don't even have enough knowledge to support yourself, so don't say you're a "king".
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Re: how the dice works for newbies, even premium

Postby Gabriel13 on Wed May 30, 2012 10:17 am

Oh yeah.. One more thing.. Learn to spell!
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Re: how the dice works for newbies, even premium

Postby AslanTheKing on Wed May 30, 2012 11:41 am

Gabriel13 wrote:Oh yeah.. One more thing.. Learn to spell!



i could learn how to spell, do i really need it?? no

but tell me, since you are so superiour in your OWN language,

what you wrote a while ago, isnt there a word to much??

see yourself, it was you who is lecturing me about , this is what you wrote, read it down there, now which word is too much ;)


ok... so this is obviously just to get the community jigged up.. that's cool.. have fun with that...

and I don't even under understand your random rantings about chickens and villages... I hope you thought it was funny at least...
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Re: how the dice works for newbies, even premium

Postby JustCallMeStupid on Wed May 30, 2012 12:28 pm

DiM wrote:
JustCallMeStupid wrote:So it only gets worse as u get higher up the ranks.


stop complaining, your dice are just fine:



Id rather have more consistent win ratios than huge splurges where I magically win a 20v40 attack one week and then lose a 20v5 attack for an escalating card game the next week. Thats my complaint, and my recent dice have been pure dog poop.
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Re: how the dice works for newbies, even premium

Postby Gabriel13 on Wed May 30, 2012 3:46 pm

Those stats aren't that bad?
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Re: how the dice works for newbies, even premium

Postby DiM on Wed May 30, 2012 4:18 pm

JustCallMeStupid wrote:
DiM wrote:
JustCallMeStupid wrote:So it only gets worse as u get higher up the ranks.


stop complaining, your dice are just fine:



Id rather have more consistent win ratios than huge splurges where I magically win a 20v40 attack one week and then lose a 20v5 attack for an escalating card game the next week. Thats my complaint, and my recent dice have been pure dog poop.
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it depends on how wide or narrow you perspective on dice is.
purely statistically speaking given enough time the exact opposite of what you're complaining about is bound to happen and balance it overall.

basically what i'm saying long term consistency is 100% sure. it's the short term variations that suck.

for example one thing that happens to me a lot is that in the early rounds i get absurdly awful dice and basically get hammered. then when the game is decided and there's no chance in hell i'm making a comeback i get ridiculously good dice. overall for that game i probably end up having average rolls. but the truth is dice screwed me.
given enough time i'll probably be in games where my opponent will get the crap dice in the start.

i can totally understand how dice can be frustrating. i spend an unhealthy amount of time calculating chances and analysing dice whenever i play. at this very moment if you look at my dice they appear perfectly normal and yet i'm trying to reduce my game count and eventually take a break from playing games because of the dice. for example i'm in the final of a long tourney and at the deciding point of the game where i could seal the win i had a 12v1 where i lost 8 troops. then immediately after my opponent came with an 8 stack and killed 3,2,2,4 while losing just 1 troop. losing 8 troops in a 12v1 battle is less than 0.1% chance of happening. killing 3,2,2,4 and losing just 1 troop has a 2% chance of happening. a whole tourney of 40-50 games down the drain in a single turn.

PS: still, i don't think the dice are unfair. i'm convinced i've had my share of good dice and even if the losses are easier to remember i still recall some fantastic comebacks of mine that would have been impossible without anything less than miraculous dice.
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Re: how the dice works for newbies, even premium

Postby rhp 1 on Wed May 30, 2012 5:15 pm

DiM wrote:
JustCallMeStupid wrote:
DiM wrote:
JustCallMeStupid wrote:So it only gets worse as u get higher up the ranks.


stop complaining, your dice are just fine:



Id rather have more consistent win ratios than huge splurges where I magically win a 20v40 attack one week and then lose a 20v5 attack for an escalating card game the next week. Thats my complaint, and my recent dice have been pure dog poop.
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it depends on how wide or narrow you perspective on dice is.
purely statistically speaking given enough time the exact opposite of what you're complaining about is bound to happen and balance it overall.

basically what i'm saying long term consistency is 100% sure. it's the short term variations that suck.

for example one thing that happens to me a lot is that in the early rounds i get absurdly awful dice and basically get hammered. then when the game is decided and there's no chance in hell i'm making a comeback i get ridiculously good dice. overall for that game i probably end up having average rolls. but the truth is dice screwed me.
given enough time i'll probably be in games where my opponent will get the crap dice in the start.

i can totally understand how dice can be frustrating. i spend an unhealthy amount of time calculating chances and analysing dice whenever i play. at this very moment if you look at my dice they appear perfectly normal and yet i'm trying to reduce my game count and eventually take a break from playing games because of the dice. for example i'm in the final of a long tourney and at the deciding point of the game where i could seal the win i had a 12v1 where i lost 8 troops. then immediately after my opponent came with an 8 stack and killed 3,2,2,4 while losing just 1 troop. losing 8 troops in a 12v1 battle is less than 0.1% chance of happening. killing 3,2,2,4 and losing just 1 troop has a 2% chance of happening. a whole tourney of 40-50 games down the drain in a single turn.

PS: still, i don't think the dice are unfair. i'm convinced i've had my share of good dice and even if the losses are easier to remember i still recall some fantastic comebacks of mine that would have been impossible without anything less than miraculous dice.


I would say your poor early round dice are a function of low attacking troop counts, but at this point I don't even care anymore...
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Re: how the dice works for newbies, even premium

Postby JustCallMeStupid on Wed May 30, 2012 5:50 pm

I agree that the dice are random, but I think the dice should be fractionally skewed towards ideal in any single game. To be 5% straight away from "ideal" or 10% straight away from the opposite of where I am right now with nearly 250 attacks is kind of lame. 250 is fairly low on the attack count but in one game I attacked 14v12 killed 6 then next turn or so attacked a 11v6 and killed 2. Then Ive literally played games where Ive killed 20 and lost 2. Its just frustrating how consistently outside the norms the dice seem to roll.

I guess basically I am due to win 12 straight 3v2 attacks killing 24 units with 0 loss to balance out my stats to near ideal OR even worse if I won 24 straight wins to swing to the positive side of the stats... Cmon OP dice!
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Re: how the dice works for newbies, even premium

Postby AslanTheKing on Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:51 am

Statistics sucks too,
how can you lose a game in classic, if your stats show how great your dice was?, my secure defense in sa was crushed with great dice of my opponent,
like to mention that i had in rd 1 sa full !! on the borders mexico and dakar each 3 troops neutral, that was rd 1,

here the dice statistics, they are fake 2, what a joke


Recent dice rolls (25 battles)

AslanTheKing 4.8 csemis10 4.3
Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's
Assault +5% 3.63 9 9 11 17 11 10 -23% 2.92 4 14 9 2 7 1
Defend -4% 3.40 8 8 9 9 8 6 -2% 3.44 14 20 25 17 18 14
Total +1% 3.53 17 17 20 26 19 16 -8% 3.31 18 34 34 19 25 15
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Re: how the dice works for newbies, even premium

Postby JustCallMeStupid on Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:20 am

No offense but luck in terms of what dice u roll ( a 3 or a 6 etc) is fairly unimportant. It more-so matters of what you win and lose. And whatever you do, DO NOT as a JOKE send a support ticket complaining about your dice. Cause then they really get mad at you. Let me show you.

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EDIT:
I am kind of curious how the % is only about 40% below? Anyone have the link to this? I would think if the numbers should be either 1 to 1 ratio or slightly in favored of the attacker. If Ive lost 4 to 1 shouldnt it be -400%?

I think I figured it out, since Ive won 16% and average is 37% then 16/37 = 43% so despite that I would need to increase my win % by well over 100% (think about that) im only 40% or so below average... lame.
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Re: how the dice works for newbies, even premium

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:40 am

AslanTheKing wrote:Statistics sucks too,
how can you lose a game in classic, if your stats show how great your dice was?, my secure defense in sa was crushed with great dice of my opponent,


Ah, the old Secure-Defense scheme. I think you should've used the Super-Deluxe-Secure-Defense (SDSD) scheme.


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Re: how the dice works for newbies, even premium

Postby AslanTheKing on Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:43 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:
AslanTheKing wrote:Statistics sucks too,
how can you lose a game in classic, if your stats show how great your dice was?, my secure defense in sa was crushed with great dice of my opponent,


Ah, the old Secure-Defense scheme. I think you should've used the Super-Deluxe-Secure-Defense (SDSD) scheme.


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