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Re: Abuse of power

Postby nebsmith on Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:08 pm

GoranZ wrote:
nebsmith wrote:
GoranZ wrote:
nebsmith wrote:not by the CC community GoranZ, only some of them.


I'll clarify... majority of CC community ;)



You have taken a poll then ?


Count how many players posted on all the threads concerning the issue, then count how many players defended some of C&A members(I think that they were 4-5). The ratio will be similar with the poll, thus we don't need a poll...
Over 90% support can be noticed from very long distances.


I actually went ahead and counted the posters who agree with you, disagree with you and the neutral posters in this thread.

I make it
22 Agree with you - 45%
16 Disagree with you - 33%
10 Neutral - 20%

Not 90%
I know this doesn't add up to 100% but I ignored the fractions.


Anyway that is 48 individuals out of something like 16,000 active players, or 0.3% of the whole community.
My point is that I see no evidence from this thread that says anything about the community as a whole.
It only says something about those active in the forums. A self selecting and possibly unrepresentative group.

If you want to state that you have the support of nearly half the active posters then I have no problem with that. but 90% of the community as a whole - no.
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Re: Abuse of power

Postby GoranZ on Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:01 pm

nebsmith wrote:
GoranZ wrote:
nebsmith wrote:
GoranZ wrote:
nebsmith wrote:not by the CC community GoranZ, only some of them.


I'll clarify... majority of CC community ;)



You have taken a poll then ?


Count how many players posted on all the threads concerning the issue, then count how many players defended some of C&A members(I think that they were 4-5). The ratio will be similar with the poll, thus we don't need a poll...
Over 90% support can be noticed from very long distances.


I actually went ahead and counted the posters who agree with you, disagree with you and the neutral posters in this thread.

I make it
22 Agree with you - 45%
16 Disagree with you - 33%
10 Neutral - 20%

Not 90%
I know this doesn't add up to 100% but I ignored the fractions.


Anyway that is 48 individuals out of something like 16,000 active players, or 0.3% of the whole community.
My point is that I see no evidence from this thread that says anything about the community as a whole.
It only says something about those active in the forums. A self selecting and possibly unrepresentative group.

If you want to state that you have the support of nearly half the active posters then I have no problem with that. but 90% of the community as a whole - no.


For your information I also made a counting... but only from one thread(original one agents Masli)... viewtopic.php?f=239&t=160346

On that one there were 45 users that made some post, out of them 4(eddie, gordon, KA and Night Strike) openly supported Masli...

Since there are 6 threads only in C&A the number of users is much higher than what u manage to count... And obviously you only count what fits you.

If u like to bother in counting calculate how many points both accused C&A members made... I predict that they are above 1000.
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Re: Abuse of power

Postby jgordon1111 on Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:08 pm

your are correct goran about that thread, but out of the other 40 poster's in that thread how many of them were purley unobjective in their post and how many were there for personal vendetta's, and otherwise might not even have posted. That second part would have dropped the numbers way down.
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Re: Abuse of power

Postby Gypsys Kiss on Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:14 pm

If you are only counting from one thread then your numbers are flawed.


And to be honest, you know diddly squat about what 90% of the 'CC community' think
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Re: Abuse of power

Postby GoranZ on Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:20 pm

jgordon1111 wrote:your are correct goran about that thread, but out of the other 40 poster's in that thread how many of them were purley unobjective in their post and how many were there for personal vendetta's, and otherwise might not even have posted. That second part would have dropped the numbers way down.


user is user... I can not count their motives also, but there is also "why do supporters support them, what would they get from the support ;)", tho I can not specifically classify every post as support, neutral or agents...

What can be exactly counted are the illegally("from grey area actions") received points.

Gypsys Kiss wrote:If you are only counting from one thread then your numbers are flawed.


And to be honest, you know diddly squat about what 90% of the 'CC community' think


Its not what 90% of the 'CC community' thinks or like... never is never will be, sorry m8 but I know what users that posted think, others probably would not even voted in some pull.
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Re: Abuse of power

Postby nebsmith on Sat Jan 07, 2012 6:15 pm

GoranZ wrote
For your information I also made a counting... but only from one thread(original one agents Masli)... viewtopic.php?f=239&t=160346

On that one there were 45 users that made some post, out of them 4(eddie, gordon, KA and Night Strike) openly supported Masli...

Since there are 6 threads only in C&A the number of users is much higher than what u manage to count... And obviously you only count what fits you.

If u like to bother in counting calculate how many points both accused C&A members made... I predict that they are above 1000.


I looked at every post in this thread - 249 at the time and counted every poster - not every post.
It is not about the number of posts that support you it is about the number of posters, that was 22 out of 48.
I have been following all the other threads you mention and it seems it is basically the same people commenting in all of them. If any one could be bothered to slog through them all - which I can't, I think that you will find that the majority of the posts - Maybe 90% even - are from the same 20 users.
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Re: Abuse of power

Postby jgordon1111 on Sat Jan 07, 2012 6:18 pm

and that number nebsmith is also flawed due to the fact most of those post's were not unobjective, most of those were personal vendetta's
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Re: Abuse of power

Postby owenshooter on Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:58 pm

jgordon1111 wrote:and that number nebsmith is also flawed due to the fact most of those post's were not unobjective, most of those were personal vendetta's

really? can you please list each member and what their vendetta is? thank you... i find that unsupported fake fact wholly interesting...-el Jesus negro
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Re: Abuse of power

Postby jgordon1111 on Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:44 pm

cmon owen you know exactly what I am talking about no sense in rehashing it, and by now you know that I still think some of you got screwed. So lets just let my last comment slide,as long as we can both admit some of the poster's motives were not entirley unobjective.
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Re: Abuse of power

Postby Master Bush on Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:35 am

more abuse of power tonight. teegee locked my thread, but did not lock evil semp's bait thread. standard.
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Re: Abuse of power

Postby jgordon1111 on Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:57 am

Hmmmm, oh :roll:
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Re: Abuse of power

Postby King_Herpes on Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:36 am

I can see that some members do not know how to follow the few simple rules we have in place on this site, like only posting evidence in this particular forum.

The admins KNOW what has happened, they made the ruling and also made changes to the system. Their was no gross abuse of the system as it was, if their was then the admins would have come down hard on those accused.

This thread is LOCKED and will stay that way until I get a chance to go through it and deal with anything that needs to be dealt with.
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Re: Abuse of power

Postby John Deere on Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:16 am

Quit acting like you have been paid off by CC KH :P ;)
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