What will happen when simtom runs out of points?

by **Jafnhár** on Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:07 am

The scoring system is way too simple. Why isn't something like the Elo system? used?

by **IronE.GLE** on Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:34 am

wicked wrote:Actually guys, it's 100 points max per player that he'll earn. Anyone who plays him when he's that low is asking for it. I just hope it doesn't turn some noob off to come in and lose 100 points off the bat!

Most noobs don't understand the scoring system anyway, so I'm sure they won't even notice they got hosed until later in their CC career.

by **tahitiwahini** on Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:36 am

Jafnhár wrote:The scoring system is way too simple. Why isn't something like the Elo system? used?

The simplicity of the system is probably why it was used. The Elo system is not suited to multiplayer and team games. The Elo system has been extended to cover both multiplayer and team games, for example, the TrueSkill system. It should definitely be looked into for this site.

by **IronE.GLE** on Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:37 am

tahitiwahini wrote:
Jafnhár wrote:The scoring system is way too simple. Why isn't something like the Elo system? used?

The simplicity of the system is probably why it was used. The Elo system is not suited to multiplayer and team games. The Elo system has been extended to cover both multiplayer and team games, for example, the TrueSkill system. It should definitely be looked into for this site.

Forza Motorsports uses an ELO system and it works great.

by **Jafnhár** on Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:40 am

Yeah, it'd have to be changed somehow because it's not made for more than 2 player games. But the advantage with it is that it would prevent highscored players from earning lots of points by playing against newbies. I hate that.

by **tahitiwahini** on Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:48 am

IronE.GLE wrote:
tahitiwahini wrote:
Jafnhár wrote:The scoring system is way too simple. Why isn't something like the Elo system? used?

The simplicity of the system is probably why it was used. The Elo system is not suited to multiplayer and team games. The Elo system has been extended to cover both multiplayer and team games, for example, the TrueSkill system. It should definitely be looked into for this site.

Forza Motorsports uses an ELO system and it works great.

Don't know anything about Forza Motorsports, are there team races?

by **tahitiwahini** on Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:54 am

Jafnhár wrote:Yeah, it'd have to be changed somehow because it's not made for more than 2 player games. But the advantage with it is that it would prevent highscored players from earning lots of points by playing against newbies. I hate that.

I agree, there are deficiencies in the current scoring system which can be exploited to improve one's ranking. The effect is most pronounced in the team games. A TrueSkill like system would address that problem.

It should be investigated for use on this site.

One negative is that since the scoring system would no longer be simple, it would probably result in the kind of conspiracy theories we see all the time here regarding the random dice.

I would have to believe a more complicated albeit less explainable system of scoring would be preferable to the present simple system with it's inherent flaws and anomalies.