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Re: Point dumpng

Postby nippersean on Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:31 pm

So this mans I can't buy 3 moths for 4 people, including myself?
Isn't this an option? Why not?
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Re: Point dumpng

Postby SirSebstar on Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:36 am

nippersean wrote:So this mans I can't buy 3 moths for 4 people, including myself?
Isn't this an option? Why not?

wrong question. its coming but it was previously not possible to due transaction and account/administration costs
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Re: Point dumpng

Postby Renee_W on Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:10 pm

SirSebstar wrote:
iamkoolerthanu wrote:Is there a reason for this? because honestly I think if lack made it, lets say 13.50 for 6 months(as an option), he will get many people that buy the 6 months instead of a year and he will be making profit... Plus it will make many users more happy


This has been suggested and rejected multiple times. Just one more reason against it, administration and bank costs would mean even less money is availiable to CC per transaction. CC pays a fixed fee PLUS % per transaction, as do most bussinessess when the get e-money and or creditcard payments


lack can do what he want's but this is a silly argument, particularly the part I bolded. The percentage fee is the same on $25 whether you receive it as 1 payment 2 or 12. That's the nature of percentages. So a percentage fee is perfectly irrelevant. The fixed fee's simply aren't that high, generally measured in cents not dollars. I can't speak specifically for what he uses for credit card. But paypal's fixed fee is a mere $0.30(Source: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?c ... es-outside).

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1 year $25
6 months $15
1 month $4

Results before percentage
1x1 year $25 - $0.3 = $24.7
2x6 months $30 - $.6 = $29.4
12x1 month = $48 - $3.6 = $44.4

Due to the nature of percentages the larger numbers would stay larger. Fees ESPECIALLY percentage fees are not a reason against payment tiers.
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Re: Point dumpng

Postby Dukasaur on Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:22 pm

SirSebstar wrote:it stays around here. but one day i swear i'll make a SirSebstar faq list


As long as you don't start making SirSebstar fan lists...:P
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Re: Point dumpng

Postby SirSebstar on Fri Jun 10, 2011 2:38 am

Dukasaur wrote:
SirSebstar wrote:it stays around here. but one day i swear i'll make a SirSebstar faq list


As long as you don't start making SirSebstar fan lists...:P


done that already SBS https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=135788 :-$ :roll:
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Re: Point dumpng

Postby nippersean on Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:08 am

Crikey, that's like reading one of Pasca's team chats, I guess you want me to break the bonus and fort from the ships then? OK will do
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Re: Point dumpng

Postby luluxiu on Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:36 am

Not intentionally, but because he lost the exchange of game types - just started to play 1V1 can not support his position, unless he won them all. He lost 2000 points. He has been warned. CC decide if you are "point-dumping", then you will get high-quality stripes and on-site banned....
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Re: Point dumpng

Postby reptile on Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:45 am

straight up if i ever get banned i would just quit altogether... and they wont get any more of my business. cod works well enough for me.
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Re: Point dumpng

Postby Bruceswar on Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:48 am

Renee_W wrote:
SirSebstar wrote:
iamkoolerthanu wrote:Is there a reason for this? because honestly I think if lack made it, lets say 13.50 for 6 months(as an option), he will get many people that buy the 6 months instead of a year and he will be making profit... Plus it will make many users more happy


This has been suggested and rejected multiple times. Just one more reason against it, administration and bank costs would mean even less money is availiable to CC per transaction. CC pays a fixed fee PLUS % per transaction, as do most bussinessess when the get e-money and or creditcard payments


lack can do what he want's but this is a silly argument, particularly the part I bolded. The percentage fee is the same on $25 whether you receive it as 1 payment 2 or 12. That's the nature of percentages. So a percentage fee is perfectly irrelevant. The fixed fee's simply aren't that high, generally measured in cents not dollars. I can't speak specifically for what he uses for credit card. But paypal's fixed fee is a mere $0.30(Source: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?c ... es-outside).

Rates
1 year $25
6 months $15
1 month $4

Results before percentage
1x1 year $25 - $0.3 = $24.7
2x6 months $30 - $.6 = $29.4
12x1 month = $48 - $3.6 = $44.4

Due to the nature of percentages the larger numbers would stay larger. Fees ESPECIALLY percentage fees are not a reason against payment tiers.




This is not correct. Percentage fee's are not the same. Not for CC uses (Credit Card) and or paypal users. Fee's differ from the transaction amount. Having been in business for a long time myself, no 2 companies pay the same fee's. With fee's etc, I doubt lack see's any benefit to 3 or 6 months of premium.
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Re: Point dumpng

Postby Bruceswar on Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:58 am

reptile wrote:straight up if i ever get banned i would just quit altogether... and they wont get any more of my business. cod works well enough for me.




Somehow I do not see you getting banned
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Re: Point dumpng

Postby Evil Semp on Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:16 pm

Renee_W wrote:lack can do what he want's but this is a silly argument, particularly the part I bolded. The percentage fee is the same on $25 whether you receive it as 1 payment 2 or 12. That's the nature of percentages. So a percentage fee is perfectly irrelevant. The fixed fee's simply aren't that high, generally measured in cents not dollars. I can't speak specifically for what he uses for credit card. But paypal's fixed fee is a mere $0.30(Source: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?c ... es-outside).

Rates
1 year $25
6 months $15
1 month $4

Results before percentage
1x1 year $25 - $0.3 = $24.7
2x6 months $30 - $.6 = $29.4
12x1 month = $48 - $3.6 = $44.4

Due to the nature of percentages the larger numbers would stay larger. Fees ESPECIALLY percentage fees are not a reason against payment tiers.


The figures you mentioned above are only the swipe fees of $0.30 per transaction. Now you have to add the percentage fee to that. If it was 1.9% which was the lowest percentage from the link provided the percentage fee would be $.475. Add the two together he would be paying $0.775 on a $25.00 transaction. You didn't mention the bank fees he has to pay either.

Also with credit cards if he has to many transactions contested by the card holders his rates will go up. Being an internet business and the age of many of the members I would think his contested transaction numbers are higher than many other businesses.

There are hidden costs in running a business that many people don't realize unless the run a business.
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Re: Point dumpng

Postby Bruceswar on Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:35 am

Evil Semp wrote:
Renee_W wrote:lack can do what he want's but this is a silly argument, particularly the part I bolded. The percentage fee is the same on $25 whether you receive it as 1 payment 2 or 12. That's the nature of percentages. So a percentage fee is perfectly irrelevant. The fixed fee's simply aren't that high, generally measured in cents not dollars. I can't speak specifically for what he uses for credit card. But paypal's fixed fee is a mere $0.30(Source: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?c ... es-outside).

Rates
1 year $25
6 months $15
1 month $4

Results before percentage
1x1 year $25 - $0.3 = $24.7
2x6 months $30 - $.6 = $29.4
12x1 month = $48 - $3.6 = $44.4

Due to the nature of percentages the larger numbers would stay larger. Fees ESPECIALLY percentage fees are not a reason against payment tiers.


The figures you mentioned above are only the swipe fees of $0.30 per transaction. Now you have to add the percentage fee to that. If it was 1.9% which was the lowest percentage from the link provided the percentage fee would be $.475. Add the two together he would be paying $0.775 on a $25.00 transaction. You didn't mention the bank fees he has to pay either.

Also with credit cards if he has to many transactions contested by the card holders his rates will go up. Being an internet business and the age of many of the members I would think his contested transaction numbers are higher than many other businesses.

There are hidden costs in running a business that many people don't realize unless the run a business.


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Re: Point dumpng

Postby liamrisksmart on Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:09 am

play a cook in 100 games of classic map, manual deploy. so much luck involved that you will lose at least 25-40% of these games, and hence lose a heck load of points!

could also try doodle, no spoils. it seems it doesnt matter how good you are, you wil always lose a set % of these. sequential of course.
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