Is It Considered Point Dumping When ...

[Caymanmew]

very funny .... I've played lots of Lux lately because I haven't time to play a bigger map ....however,

I WAS playing lots of bigger maps/games (about 20-30) when I saw my dice begin to dive (AGAIN) so I decided enough was enough - size and complication doesn't matter - my dice suck no matter ... so a point-dumping I will go ...albeit unwillingly

so when you get some bad dice you set out to make it worst by playing completely luck based maps? very smart

So when your read a topic, you just copy what people say above you?

no i just dont read the topic only the opening post

[donkeymile]

I play about 3 games a day or so .... and at least once a day the past month or so I lose a 12-18 vs 1-2. Thats pretty bad when some people claim to have never seen one like that.

So if THAT is the evidence that I am point dumping .. lol ... than so be it. I can't even count the number of times I have lost a 5+ vs 1 per day .... easily double digits the number of times that happens.

Anyway .... its funny how many people I am finding who have found themselves in similar situations since the dice system has changed. Not that I need to lend any credibility to it, I know what I'm dealing with.

[donkeymile]

"Perhaps you're getting really lucky streaks when you're get up to 2500, but when you get normal dice, you stay in the 1400-1800 range."

Not at all. Its a real struggle to get to the 2500 range ... and takes a concentrated effort of playing games that aren't entirely about luck. The dice are closer to average during those days, maybe slightly better but not by much. When the bad streaks hit, I just start dropping like a rock - strategy goes out the window when you are losing 18v2's every day and your opponents are somehow winning 3v8's and 4v8's and even just 6v3's consistently.

Such is life here at CC

[donkeymile]

"Obviously. When you perform well its all skill. When you perform not so well, you are just unlucky! ... Hilarious man."

Thats not what I said or meant.

I have played some bad games and made some bad moves AND also been outplayed at times no question. When I am losing 18v2's consistently ( at least once a day) then yeah I think I can blame the 'dice' for causing ridiculous outcomes. Even my opponents at times coment about how crazy I get fucked.

[natty dread]

I play about 3 games a day or so .... and at least once a day the past month or so I lose a 12-18 vs 1-2.

Bullshit.

[Metsfanmax]

I play about 3 games a day or so .... and at least once a day the past month or so I lose a 12-18 vs 1-2.

Bullshit.

Yep.

[donkeymile]

Bullshit for you - I am living it - so shove it up your ass

it's a rare day when I don't lose a 12-18 vs a 1-2. So rare that I can't remember a day it hasn't lately. Say what you will, I could probably go back through the chat logs and show you but I really don't care enough to prove what I already know.

[anonymus]

Bullshit for you - I am living it - so shove it up your ass

it's a rare day when I don't lose a 12-18 vs a 1-2. So rare that I can't remember a day it hasn't lately. Say what you will, I could probably go back through the chat logs and show you but I really don't care enough to prove what I already know.

if you play small maps 1v1 how the hell do you have time to get a stack of 12-18 in the first place.. if you do i think you are doing something wrong..
attack attack attack attack
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[donkeymile]

It doesn't typically happen on Lux, but when it does I only play nuclear spoils so stacking is part of what you need to do. When I do attack 6 vs 3, the most typical amount on that map, I lose about half the time ... so you get gunshy and tend not to attempt it unless you need to break a bonus.

Other smaller maps are easy to build 12 - 18 stacks, like Arms Race for example.

[Streaker]

It doesn't typically happen on Lux, but when it does I only play nuclear spoils so stacking is part of what you need to do. When I do attack 6 vs 3, the most typical amount on that map, I lose about half the time ... so you get gunshy and tend not to attempt it unless you need to break a bonus.

Other smaller maps are easy to build 12 - 18 stacks, like Arms Race for example.

Here's a clue to 'increase' your luck: Play bigger maps, where the troop counts are higher. And stop stacking in nuclear games

[donkeymile]

Well you have a couple strategies in nuclear. You can spread out so the nukes don't take all you've got, or you can stack where you know you're safe, and attack sparingly. Bonus means little in a nuke game, and all out attack is also foolhardy.

[anonymus]

also cant belive noone has done it yet..

your dice just suck and you are consistently losing 10+ vs 1's ... while opponents are winning 3v6's, 4v6's and 3v8's etc., consistently, yet you continue to play on and start new games?

I'm down now almost 1000 points in a month or so and the freefall continues .... just curious is all .... I'm bound to lose the majority of my games now so theoretically I'm pretty much just point dumping ... WHO WANTS THEM????

YES IT DOES YOU SHOULD BE BANNED..

also on a more serious note..
armsrace is not so luckbased ofcourse if you go first you are expected to win, hell on all 1v1 you SHOULD win when you go first.
also missing round 1 attack ofcourse sucks ass but you can still get back..
if you frequently loose 6v3 (i do it all the time also) maybe try dropping so you have 3 tacks that attack.. preferably 2 stacks attacking the same terr.. also dont auto.. maybe its just a bunch of spacejunk in the channel when you auto and that sucks..
take the extra 6 seconds to klick manual assult.. maybe it helps maybe it doesnt.. but if you are at the state you describe purely due to crappy dice i would try doing everything i wasnt doing normally..
to do the same thing over and over again expecting different results are proof of insanity after all..

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[donkeymile]

I appreciate your sanity and your advice anonymus .... I understand that 6v3 odds aren't tremendously in an attackers favour so I'm not so upset about that, but the rest of it I should try and change up.

I do tend to use auto a lot ... and theoretically it shouldn't matter - but many warn against it. I'll try manual exclusively and see what happens.

[donkeymile]

played 2 games today - ANOTHER 18v2 loss ... ho hum what else is new ... lol

this time it was on the Pelop map. In an earlier game that I actually won my opponent took a 7v13 win with 4 left, and 6vs10v3 with 2 left. Luckily I had the better drop and it worked out.

18v2 happens so often I am used to it (often in a statistical sense, compared to how often you'd EXPECT to see it).

[natty dread]

I think, donkeymile, that complaining about the dice is actually the only reason you visit this site.

Really, you probably don't enjoy the games, since you perceive to be so badly screwed in every game. And you probably don't have much social activity on the forums - you're not in any user groups or clans, I don't see any posts from you on any other forums than this.

So what it comes down to is, you obviously have some kind of martyr syndrome - you enjoy presenting yourself as the "wronged party", you enjoy that you get to complain about your mistreatment. You enjoy feeling persecuted. Amirite?

And hey, it's fine really, I mean, a man needs hobbies, right? But it gets a little annoying for the rest of us, over time. After 20 or so posts saying "The dices suck! I'm definitely going to quit this site!" most of us are probably saying to themselves, "so do it already, sheesh!" but are too kind-hearted to say it straight to you.

So... here's what I propose. You try to keep the dice-complaining posts to a minimum... say, one post per month, and we all agree to ignore them. Or at most, roll our eyes at them. That's a win-win situation for everyone!

[Commander62890]

I love it, Natty

[donkeymile]

I have as much right to write what I do as you do to ignore it .... if you don't like it, don't read it - pretty simple.

Also, I don't say I am fucked in every game I play in ... thats a gross exageration on your part, for whatever reason you choose to embelish it.

you don't like it? then don't read it .... at least I have more of a 'real' social life to play on, instead of sitting here reading and replying to threads that apparently bother you so much.

A few other things jumped out at me ...

I certainly am not a martyr, or anything of the like ... I'm just one of the many experiencing it to actually put it in a post, where the others just stay quiet and complain within the game.

Having seen the incredible odds winning and losing so consistently the past while, and not being alone in seeing this difference from the way it used to be, I speak up. Seeing a 12-18 vs a 1-2 lose pretty much every day the last while is enough to see a problem.

And finally, I do intend on walking away ... waiting for my standards to finish up, as I have repeatedly claimed. I had an offer to help me with some doubles games that I intend to take up and see how that works out for me. With any luck the 'dice' will act somewhat normal and I will begin to enjoy myself again.

[SirSebstar]

and no double posting please