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Postby CatronixFilms on Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:11 pm

I have 7 negative feedbacks on my name. 6 of them merit no respect. The 7th came from when I was a noob at the time and did not know better.
I find that, especially in games I win, people tell me I "play like a moron" and "don't have a strategy for winning." I find these comments pointless and unnecessarily rude. I have also found that retaliatory feedback is a problem of massive proportions. When I leave someone negative feedback for a good reason, I have a new one on my name filled with falsified allegations- simply because I gave them negative feedback for a GOOD reason.
I respectfully ask you all to thoroughly consider any feedback, positive, neutral, or negative, before you post. Granted, I probably have thrown around too many positives to attempt to eliminate hard feelings on games I won or in which I trash-talked, but as of now I put a stop to that and ask you all to do the same.
I would like here to post another request as well, and that is that I ask those who have given me negative feedback to reconsider it. As I have said, 6 of my 7 merit no respect at all, and I will here post those which offended me the most with their falsities (Names will be excluded; you know who you are):

"Not the best player here (the most idiotic i've played). Has no concept of how the game should be played. Attacks randomly with no strategy. I would avoid this player if you understand risk. This player will ruin a good game."

This is the most ridiculous type of negative feedback and should never be posted on anybody's name for any reason. Simply because one's strategy does not bludgeon you over the head, or if it fails, does not mean it doesn't exist. Strategies succeed and fail, that is how we learn.


"he was annoyin and kept accusing me of cheating just coz i was beating him and i was unranked. What kind of guy are you ???"

This was retaliatory feedback for this:
"I would not advise playing with him. The whole game he was so busy attacking me he failed to notice Green's control of Asia, which unfairly effected the outcome of the game."

"Unfairly effected" does not mean cheating, no matter how you choose to pervert it. Strategy relies on a certain degree of what is called "knowing what the hell your enemies are doing." If anyone controls Asia, Oceania, and most of Europe, you don't attack someone with a small outpost in SOUTH AMERICA!

"You do play like a moron, too drag out a game with no solid plan for victory yopurself makes you a pain in the backside to play against. May I never sit at a table with youy again."

I believe my lack of a "solid plan" is evidenced by my victory in that game, yes?
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It just occurred to me tat not posting the names is unimportant as you can find them in my profile. I don't feel like going back and editing it.

My point is, if you leave negative feedback, have a reason- a damn good one. when 7 negatives to 25 positives is considered a lot, obviously negative feedback holds incredible power and should be handled with responsibility.

I believe I have made my point, good day.
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Postby Jamie on Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:18 pm

I have 132 positives, and ZERO negatives. As long as you don't suicide on people, and you talk clean in the game chat then no one should leave you a negative. I have left probably over 100 negatives, and only gotten two retalitory ones in return, and they were removed by a feedback moderator. If you contact wicked, she'll look at them, and decide if they should be removed or not.
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Postby Contrickster on Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:22 pm

Not quite as annoying as getting negative feedback with a positive feedback tag.

Granted nobody reads positive feedback. But it's a bug. Being unable to respond to positive feedback they could write absolutely anything there unchallenged.

I also received a 1 negative feedback in retaliation for negative feedback. The rules clearly state NO RETALIATORY FEEDBACK. However I don't see this getting removed - maybe I have to post to the abuse forum?
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Postby RobinJ on Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:23 pm

Personally, I don't really care too much about my feedback. I admit that it is nice to get positive ones but negatives are so much more interesting. Indeed, I can see what you mean in terms of the power of negatives - few ever read the positives!
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Postby GrazingCattle on Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:25 pm

It is true. He plays clean even if abused in the game. I try and make it a point not to sound like the jerk that I am. When I read your FB I thought you would be a much worse player than you in reality are. I played you and you seemed to have a stratagy and came to play. I am yet to get a neg FB but I am sure it is coming. I probably deserved one from SirFrogger, but that kind fellow gave me a second chance to redem myself.

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Postby millej11 on Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:38 pm

Maybe if you didn't leave a comment after every move you wouldn't attract so much attention.
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Postby AAFitz on Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:43 pm

you have control over your feedbacks....if you dont say anything, you are much less likely to get them....if you accuse people of cheating and you are wrong, you will get more....they dont seem to have left them lightly...so obviously it is you who has to sit back and review how you are playing....an occasional feedback sniper is out there, but if you keep to yourself, you wont typically attract them
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Postby Wisse on Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:49 pm

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Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:59 pm

join the crowd and get used to it. all 6 of mine are because of someones opinion and has nothing to do with game. the best part is, you cant do nothing about it. as long as the feedback meets the guidelines it is permitted.

I got 1 that say " I play poorly ". but I have 126 responses that say my game play is great.

Pedro left one because I tried to eliminate him in an escalating game and fell short of success. I had a 65% chance of taking him out and lost. So the next thing you know, here comes the negative feedback.

I dont remember the other 4 but they are similar in response. Other than Haz bitched and claimed I was trying to preserve points and battled him instead because he was lower ranked. The 3rd player in our game even left a neutral response saying Haz was full of shit. But Haz met the guidelines in his response and the feedback was permitted to stay. Read the feedback. He left no documentaion. It was just his opinion that I tried to preserve points. In fact, the feedback documents that Haz is bullshitting.

the other 3 I left PM's for the players to please remove them. 1 replied "go f*ck yourself, I dont care about your feedback". But obviously he does if he took the time to leave it for me.

so to make a long story short, I am not a fan of the feedback system. Atleast with the guidelines that have been established, but I play on.
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Postby AAFitz on Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:46 pm

the good thing about the feedback, is it really does help keep people in check...without it, i think people would be far more inclined to not care what they say in a game, and would result in far more abusive or annoying chats in the game

i dont 100% agree with some of the feedback rules either, but most of them are for the best...

ive been lucky to work out a couple of misunderstandings...and even one left by a drunk kid having some fun....it was so funny i almost left it....it said I was way too lucky....man i wish he was right...

and most know that a certain amount of negs are to be ignored....and the more games you play the more likely you are to get them, so JR's six doesnt mean too much, since thats out of 2000 games....whereas, i hate to say it catronix's might suggest a pattern

also, the positives aren't always an indication of the personality of a player....more how active they are...some of the best and most fun players on the site have fewer positive feedbacks, because they play well and keep to themselves...but ive seen some awesome people in here with a few silly negs, so you cant just look at the numbers....and most know that...

i happen to have the most positives right now, but i dont think anyones going to be voting me the nicest player on here...some might though. im active, and have played many games and different players, and try to be positive, and try to play as fairly as anyone...but thats about it :D
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Postby IronE.GLE on Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:51 pm

There is one way and one way only to prevent retaliatory feedback. All that needs to be done is make it to where the feedback you leave for others isn't viewable by anyone until that person leaves feedback for you. Once both players leave feedback then it is viewable by the public. Of course you would still be able to respond to negative feedback.
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Postby yeti_c on Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:52 pm

IronE.GLE wrote:There is one way and one way only to prevent retaliatory feedback. All that needs to be done is make it to where the feedback you leave for others isn't viewable by anyone until that person leaves feedback for you. Once both players leave feedback then it is viewable by the public. Of course you would still be able to respond to negative feedback.


This won't work though as that relies on everyone leaving feedback for every game and for every player... which won't work anymore either as LA has changed the rules a bit.

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Postby IronE.GLE on Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:02 pm

yeti_c wrote:
IronE.GLE wrote:There is one way and one way only to prevent retaliatory feedback. All that needs to be done is make it to where the feedback you leave for others isn't viewable by anyone until that person leaves feedback for you. Once both players leave feedback then it is viewable by the public. Of course you would still be able to respond to negative feedback.


This won't work though as that relies on everyone leaving feedback for every game and for every player... which won't work anymore either as LA has changed the rules a bit.

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Honestly I could care less about how many feedbacks are on my profile. Ten, twenty or 371 really doesn't matter. It's what is contained within the ones you have that matter.
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