Feedback

by **AttillatheHun** on Sat Jan 26, 2008 6:29 am

My son had someone leave him negative feedback because he busted someone's bonus which was only being defended by 1 army with no truce alliance or ceasefire in effect. The player leaving the feedback said it was because my son's move was "stupid, and probably gave the game away" however when he has requested such feedback be removed before it wasnt so he has done nothing.

I just won a game against 5 players 4 of which were very highly ranked. The escalating game went 10 rounds and it was very defensive with everyone playing well dispersing their men and blocking opponents. I left postive feed back since I thought everyone played well and ask for some feedback in return since I was new here.

I feel defeating 5 oponents all ranked higher, most ranked 7 ranks higher at beginning of game required some skill on my part. but so far the response I recieved has been that:
#1) I wouldnt recieve any feedback because I would have to play exceptionally to deserve it and I only won due to someone's error:
#2) to read the feedback rules, which I did and assume he is referring to 'fishing for feedback' and
3) was told "well done attilla - i would give fb however I cocked up the game through a misdeployment rather than u winning it. gg"

now I ask you if someone can kamikazee you and then leave you negative feedback even when he plainly states in chat that he attacking you solely for spite and doesnt care if it ruins the game like happened to my son.
But I can only recieve positive feedback if I somehow miraculously conquer the entire map with only 5 men, how can that be fair ?

by **jiminski** on Sat Jan 26, 2008 6:48 am

For the Positive: it sounds like you benefited from a 'hanging'; where a player who went before you, almost but not quite killed another for their cards.

You have to treat Positive Feedback like Christmas presents mate..
Don't give to receive.

As to the negative, it may have been that your sons action in breaking an unguarded bonus did unbalance the game.

Perhaps it was accepted that the bonus would not be broken as the player in question was committing troops to attack a more powerful opponent.

It can be annoying if you are 'taking one for the game' and the other weak player attacks you to bring the game to an untimely end.

Anyway, i can not know the exact circumstance but Negs can aid the learning process.

by **AttillatheHun** on Sat Jan 26, 2008 6:58 am

after having left the other players in the game positive feedback for their playing well I had pm eeach player 1 time and asked that they leave feedback.

welll I got one :

Keeps asking for feedback but didn't specify so here's a neutral. Well done, good win by the way :-)

nuetral feedback then im told "well done, good win by the way :-)

"

irony ?

selfcontradiction ?

how did the 1 pm I sent at conclusion of game constitute "keeps asking for feedback"

seems like poor sportsmanship to me. Yes its true a higher ranking player will lose more points to a low ranking player than someone equally ranked. I have even had 2 high ranking players tell me that towards the end of a game if they cant win then they will try to ensure the low ranking player(s) dont so that they loose less points. I can understand that, I dont agree with it but I understand. But if a low ranking player wins a game be a good sport, say well done, and try to beat him next time you play.

I responded to one of the replies in the original post stating I read the rules as he asked understood his point but felt I had displayed some skill in winning the game and felt that justified feedback, but he could disregard my request since he felt that way.

I recieved a somewhat unpleseant response in ALL CAPS which I think means yelling in computer posts. In his position assuming I felt the same way I would have read the response and then disregarded leaving feedback as I said was understandable.

seems like poor sportsmanship and I wont post on this subject or thread further because what was an enjoyable game has become a bad expierence simply because I think people are upset they lost to a lower raked player and that cost them more points. They can have the points back if they are that important to them lol.

by **AttillatheHun** on Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:12 am

jiminski wrote:For the Positive: it sounds like you benefited from a 'hanging'; where a player who went before you, almost but not quite killed another for their cards.

You have to treat Positive Feedback like Christmas presents mate..
Don't give to receive.

As to the negative, it may have been that your sons action in breaking an unguarded bonus did unbalance the game.

Perhaps it was accepted that the bonus would not be broken as the player in question was committing troops to attack a more powerful opponent.

It can be annoying if you are 'taking one for the game' and the other weak player attacks you to bring the game to an untimely end.

Anyway, i can not know the exact circumstance but Negs can aid the learning process.

well your not far off as far as the win, most escalating games end with someone chasing running sets and killing one opponent after another for his cards, now if the player doing so comes up short he can definately hand the game away, but I didnt finish someone off who only had 2 men left I had to take down about 25 men spread over 3 continents and bust through one blocking move to do so.

I had just accumulated all my men to one country the previous turn about 48 men which allowed me to do so. I was going to make my run that turn also. But theres still skill involved in being one of 3 men left at that point the player came up short. You have to have your men dispearsed on more than one continent, not be holding 4 or 5 cards, and have sufficent men not to be take out before that. If you have 5 cards , all your men in one place and are weak you have a target on your back in an escalatting game.

I also understand you"christmass present analogy" but I gave the feedback because I thought all players in that game played exceptionally well defensively blocking each other and avoiding being targets themselves, I could change my feedback to them, but I wont regardless of what I did or do recieve because I gave honest positive feedback I just thought I played well and am new here and deserved it i this case.

my sons game had 4 players relatively balanced 2 players were however stronger but I dont think it effected the outcome til the offended player spent the rest of game kamikazeeing my son

thx for the response though

by **AttillatheHun** on Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:22 am

Just recievd a nice positive feedback from one player only fair I should say so and he was highly ranked and lost significant points

sportsmanship is not dead

by **jiminski** on Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:24 am

No problem mate,

For your positives you just have to treat it philosophically.. i understand your feeling but higher rankers will often have played so many opponents that they have 'seen it all before'. You need something a little special to arouse their interest.
It is also likely that they are in a lot of games and they are a little desensitised to individual players and in particular those they do not know.

Crikey i play with some chaps who i've played 50 games with and they have not left me feedback .. hehe they may not even have exchanged a word in gamechat

As in life, different people have different personalities. Some come to be sociable, some to be anonymous and escape 'banal' interaction.
Try not to take it personally if you can help it.

As to your son; send the player a personal message and talk to them. It is likely that they will remove it out of the heat of battle.

good luck

by **Scott-Land** on Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:52 am

you shouldn't need affirmation on your 'quality play'-- if you are indeed skilled and play well you will eventually get more than you want or need.

although some are genuine , most are just because you feel obligated like writing in the high school senior year book.