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Postby Unit_2 on Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:53 pm

Hey Lack, you might want to re-register CC it last time you did it was 2006 .

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Postby Blitzaholic on Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:18 am

does it need to be?
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Postby owenshooter on Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:32 am

i already stole it.-0
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Postby DiM on Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:45 am

Blitzaholic wrote:does it need to be?


nope. once it is registered it stays that way you don't have to do it every year. :wink:
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Postby Twill on Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:57 am

Yeah, copywrite exists on all material put into tangible form (this now includes electronic mediums as tangible forms) for the life of the author plus 70 years...technically this happens if the copywrite statement is made or not, as long as the date of creation can be proved. Soooooo the turtle family owns CC for a while to come ;)

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Postby yeti_c on Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:59 am

Twill wrote:Yeah, copywrite exists on all material put into tangible form (this now includes electronic mediums as tangible forms) for the life of the author plus 70 years...technically this happens if the copywrite statement is made or not, as long as the date of creation can be proved. Soooooo the turtle family owns CC for a while to come ;)

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Postby sully800 on Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:25 pm

Just remember that two wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left and two wrights make an airplane.
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Postby MeDeFe on Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:53 pm

yeti_c wrote:
Twill wrote:Yeah, copywrite exists on all material put into tangible form (this now includes electronic mediums as tangible forms) for the life of the author plus 70 years...technically this happens if the copywrite statement is made or not, as long as the date of creation can be proved. Soooooo the turtle family owns CC for a while to come ;)

Thanks for the heads up though!

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Now for a derail, 70 years is fucking ridiculous, I have nothing against a person making his money through original works of his own, but only when this person has been dead for 70 years can you freely use the things he created, that's insane. 10 or 15 years after the copyright is easily enough, after that, let people do whatever they want with it, whether it's adapting the thing, distributing it on the internet or whatever.
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Postby Coleman on Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:56 pm

Well, we are talking American copyright law I think. It's the law.

That way your decedents or parent company can keep the copyright up until the end of that. If you made something that has more staying power then a lifetime + 70 years I think you'd be a household name....
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Postby wacicha on Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:57 pm

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Postby The1exile on Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:11 pm

MeDeFe wrote:Now for a derail, 70 years is fucking ridiculous, I have nothing against a person making his money through original works of his own, but only when this person has been dead for 70 years can you freely use the things he created, that's insane. 10 or 15 years after the copyright is easily enough, after that, let people do whatever they want with it, whether it's adapting the thing, distributing it on the internet or whatever.


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Postby AAFitz on Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:55 pm

MeDeFe wrote:
yeti_c wrote:
Twill wrote:Yeah, copywrite exists on all material put into tangible form (this now includes electronic mediums as tangible forms) for the life of the author plus 70 years...technically this happens if the copywrite statement is made or not, as long as the date of creation can be proved. Soooooo the turtle family owns CC for a while to come ;)

Thanks for the heads up though!

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Now for a derail, 70 years is fucking ridiculous, I have nothing against a person making his money through original works of his own, but only when this person has been dead for 70 years can you freely use the things he created, that's insane. 10 or 15 years after the copyright is easily enough, after that, let people do whatever they want with it, whether it's adapting the thing, distributing it on the internet or whatever.


It is so easy to give away other peoples stuff isnt it? 15 years is the blink of an eye. If you need to read something so bad, buy it.

The 70 years is to encourage new ideas and books not discourage them. If authors cant be assured that they can provide for thier families, they will have to find more secure occupations, and the novels, short stories, whatever will never be written.

I assume you think its for the better of society to make them community property, but it would stifle such writings almost as much as book burning itself.
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Postby lackattack on Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:10 pm

I disagree. I think that copyright protection is extreme and favours a small group of powerful content owners. These days it rare for a major artist to actually own their own copyright. Putting things in the public domain sooner would be better for society because people will make great books, games, music, movies etc either way.
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Postby reminisco on Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:35 pm

AAFitz wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:
yeti_c wrote:
Twill wrote:Yeah, copywrite exists on all material put into tangible form (this now includes electronic mediums as tangible forms) for the life of the author plus 70 years...technically this happens if the copywrite statement is made or not, as long as the date of creation can be proved. Soooooo the turtle family owns CC for a while to come ;)

Thanks for the heads up though!

Twill


"COPYRIGHT"

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Thank you yeti_c.


Now for a derail, 70 years is fucking ridiculous, I have nothing against a person making his money through original works of his own, but only when this person has been dead for 70 years can you freely use the things he created, that's insane. 10 or 15 years after the copyright is easily enough, after that, let people do whatever they want with it, whether it's adapting the thing, distributing it on the internet or whatever.


It is so easy to give away other peoples stuff isnt it? 15 years is the blink of an eye. If you need to read something so bad, buy it.

The 70 years is to encourage new ideas and books not discourage them. If authors cant be assured that they can provide for thier families, they will have to find more secure occupations, and the novels, short stories, whatever will never be written.

I assume you think its for the better of society to make them community property, but it would stifle such writings almost as much as book burning itself.



i completely agree. if i'm not going to be compensated for my efforts. for my blood sweat and tears, why bother?
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Postby AAFitz on Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:43 pm

lackattack wrote:I disagree. I think that copyright protection is extreme and favours a small group of powerful content owners. These days it rare for a major artist to actually own their own copyright. Putting things in the public domain sooner would be better for society because people will make great books, games, music, movies etc either way.


Well, the corporations only own the stuff, because the put up the front money. There is no question, that without that front money, some of the music, books etc, would never be written. Id gladly take an advance for a book, in exchange for the rights to sell it. But since I have no offers of that, I focus on my day job, and the world would never know the eloquent ramblings of AAFitz...

well... some will
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Postby Twill on Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:50 pm

copywrite, copyright, next you're going to tell my that lysdexic is the wrong spelling :roll:

If you guys would like to have a debate on the pros and cons of copyRIGHT law, head on over to IK and start it there - this thread should technically stay on the topic of CC ;)

It's an interesting area of law though to be sure, especially in the digital age.

If you start it over there, get me started on the legalities of schools using turnitin.com - talk about a legal gray zone of copyright ;)

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Postby AAFitz on Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:58 pm

Not to mention I believe lack and I have had this exact conversation almost to the letter before...

Sorry... :oops:
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