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Self Ban from Certain Games

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:54 pm

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  • Self Banning from Certain game types

Specifics:
  • You can set a time limit to ban yourself from X type of games. Say 1 vs 1
  • This can also be used for tournaments, and other events such as speed games

This will improve the following aspects of the site:
  • It will make CC more enjoyable for many who go through bad dice. 1 vs 1 can really make you angry at times with the dice.
  • Speed games can keep you up late
  • Tournament games can be time consuming.
  • A simple ban on yourself can keep you sane in CC
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Re: Self Ban from Certain Games

Postby Rabid bunnies on Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:22 pm

Perhaps a bit of a blond moment but...

Specifics:

You can set a time limit to ban yourself from X type of games. Say 1 vs 1
This can also be used for tournaments, and other events such as speed games


Or just practice the self discipline to stay off the "Game finder" page with those characteristics? In short... don't click "Join Game". :-s




This will improve the following aspects of the site:

It will make CC more enjoyable for many who go through bad dice. 1 vs 1 can really make you angry at times with the dice.


So don't join a 1 vs 1 game.

Speed games can keep you up late


So don't join a speed game if you feel you will be rushed.


Tournament games can be time consuming.


When was the last time you found yourself stuck in a tournament game thinking: "Darn... I knew it had to happen sooner or later, these tournament directors are out to get us, I remember when you had to sign up to be in a tournament, now they just pluck us out of nowhere and stick us in here."


In short... this aches of the concept of "Don't forget to remember ....." Instead of needing to ban yourself from a certain type... just practice some discipline. Or, if you find yourself too tempted to the speed games, the tournament games, the pure high of 1 vs 1 competition... then just indulge yourself?

Do you need the site to provide an option for you to remove choice from... yourself?

This is a concept of engineering a solution where there is no problem. The nature of the beast is to be driven to certain maps, certain game types, etc... the downside to each, whether it be horrible dice in 1-1... horrible bogging tourney games or ridiculously unhealthy nights will serve to deter you themselves. If you haven't felt the pain of bad dice in 1 vs 1s.... if you haven't had a bad tournament game, if you haven't had trouble controlling your speed game addictions... then maybe, just maybe, you can enjoy it? :shock:

I do feel stupid typing this out because I feel this may be a joke of a post but I owe the respect of explanation to anyone whom I interact with. This idea of: "I would like to not partake in certain games, so help me out of this addiction by giving me a choice to remove my choice to join these games" is rather ridiculous and I pray it's a joke... or that I've misunderstood your post.

One speed game too many tonight? 8-[

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Re: Self Ban from Certain Games

Postby Woodruff on Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:25 pm

Rabid bunnies wrote:Or just practice the self discipline to stay off the "Game finder" page with those characteristics? In short... don't click "Join Game". :-s


This seems painfully obvious to me, as well.

I normally play massive number of games at the same time. However, because I will be moving to another state later this month, I've stopped joining games entirely (other than ongoing tournments). It's been painful for me, as I like the activity that being in so many games gives me, but I know I have to exercise that self-discipline or I (and probably my playing partners) will be hurt by my inactivity during the move.

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Re: Self Ban from Certain Games

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:37 pm

Woodruff wrote:
Don't ask someone else to do for you what you can do for yourself.



Or this simple rule would work perfectly... Parents could even use it on kids.. I Know some really dislike CC.
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Re: Self Ban from Certain Games

Postby Timminz on Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:57 pm

While we're at it, could we get something that keeps me from buying cigarettes?
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Re: Self Ban from Certain Games

Postby mpjh on Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:59 pm

There are other things teens do that parents don't like, can CC put a ban on those for parents?
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Re: Self Ban from Certain Games

Postby Night Strike on Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:01 pm

This is obviously a waste of coding time. Be more responsible in your game choices (and forum posts).
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Re: Self Ban from Certain Games

Postby Timminz on Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:28 pm

Night Strike wrote:This is obviously a waste of coding time. Be more responsible in your game choices (and forum posts).

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Re: Self Ban from Certain Games

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:39 pm

Night Strike wrote:This is obviously a waste of coding time. Be more responsible in your game choices (and forum posts).



You have to be kidding me. This would not take much at all to code. Maybe you say it would be a waste, because you are not a coder. I know many people who would love this. Hey If on your TV you can ban some channels why not on CC with game types? It would not effect anybody but yourself.
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Re: Self Ban from Certain Games

Postby PLAYER57832 on Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:40 pm

mpjh wrote:There are other things teens do that parents don't like, can CC put a ban on those for parents?


Now this, would be an EXCELLENT idea.....

And while we are on the subject, how about a code to do my laundry, cook, and maybe weed the garden, too

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Re: Self Ban from Certain Games

Postby PLAYER57832 on Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:42 pm

Bruceswar wrote:
Night Strike wrote:This is obviously a waste of coding time. Be more responsible in your game choices (and forum posts).



You have to be kidding me. This would not take much at all to code. Maybe you say it would be a waste, because you are not a coder. I know many people who would love this. Hey If on your TV you can ban some channels why not on CC with game types? It would not effect anybody but yourself.



I am sorry, but I think this is going to go down on the annuals of absolutely ridiculous (but seriously suggested) ideas.

The solution is simple. DON'T JOIN GAMES you don't want to play.

DON'T JOIN TOURNAMENTS you don't want to play.


Get it? The option is already here.. you just have to use it!
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Re: Self Ban from Certain Games

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:52 pm

PLAYER57832 wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:
Night Strike wrote:This is obviously a waste of coding time. Be more responsible in your game choices (and forum posts).



You have to be kidding me. This would not take much at all to code. Maybe you say it would be a waste, because you are not a coder. I know many people who would love this. Hey If on your TV you can ban some channels why not on CC with game types? It would not effect anybody but yourself.



I am sorry, but I think this is going to go down on the annuals of absolutely ridiculous (but seriously suggested) ideas.

The solution is simple. DON'T JOIN GAMES you don't want to play.

DON'T JOIN TOURNAMENTS you don't want to play.


Get it? The option is already here.. you just have to use it!



It is not about wanting to play them or not. This is about setting simple limits on yourself to make sure you do not get flooded with games all at once, such as 5 tournaments sending you 10 games each all at once. Granted you joined all these at different times, some even months apart. Yet they were super slow getting started or late getting games out.
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Re: Self Ban from Certain Games

Postby n00blet on Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:57 pm

Bruceswar wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:
Night Strike wrote:This is obviously a waste of coding time. Be more responsible in your game choices (and forum posts).



You have to be kidding me. This would not take much at all to code. Maybe you say it would be a waste, because you are not a coder. I know many people who would love this. Hey If on your TV you can ban some channels why not on CC with game types? It would not effect anybody but yourself.



I am sorry, but I think this is going to go down on the annuals of absolutely ridiculous (but seriously suggested) ideas.

The solution is simple. DON'T JOIN GAMES you don't want to play.

DON'T JOIN TOURNAMENTS you don't want to play.


Get it? The option is already here.. you just have to use it!



It is not about wanting to play them or not. This is about setting simple limits on yourself to make sure you do not get flooded with games all at once, such as 5 tournaments sending you 10 games each all at once. Granted you joined all these at different times, some even months apart. Yet they were super slow getting started or late getting games out.
In the interests of playing Devil's Advocate, I offer this:
Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but explicitly preventing yourself from playing tournament games while you're signed up for tournaments will only slow down tournaments more.
Although I can understand how your idea fits into the "family-friendly" mold CC has seemed to be adopting as of late.

Just my $.02. No sides taken 8-)
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Re: Self Ban from Certain Games

Postby Rabid bunnies on Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:01 pm

Hun, that has nothing to do with "banning yourself". What you're really proposing here is a filter on games that you want your account to have access to.

The filter itself is you, the player. These tournaments can't send you to games if you're not signed up.

a) Sign up to fewer tourneys until you've completed others
b) Sit out of tourneys that you don't want to be in, I'm sure they have backups incase.

Just don't join games you don't want to play and own up to it with a simple pm or something. There's no need to filter out game types because when you search for a game to join, the whole "Game Finder" page is a filter in itself.

So maybe I'm missing what it is that you have to gain from this filter that you don't already have accessible to you on the game finder page.

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Re: Self Ban from Certain Games

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:04 pm

Not playing the games already sent to you or needed joining for a tournament you are in already. That would be a total mess, but not joining new ones. Yes I know that part is a bit tougher to code in, but a recent rash of never started tournaments, and tournaments that are running super slow cause a major pile up. I am scared to join any more tournaments as the ones that never started(4 I joined, might actually start) Then what get slammed with more games. For me it is not such a big problem as I can handle more games, but my partner does not want more games. We had spaced these out nicely. Joining 1 every 2 weeks or so. Maybe a bit more. Now we run the risk of having 40 more games tossed on us at once. Some of these were joined in March, and April, yet never got off the ground or are still saying they are going to. When? Anybody's guess.
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Re: Self Ban from Certain Games

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:09 pm

Rabid bunnies wrote:Hun, that has nothing to do with "banning yourself". What you're really proposing here is a filter on games that you want your account to have access to.

The filter itself is you, the player. These tournaments can't send you to games if you're not signed up.

a) Sign up to fewer tourneys until you've completed others
b) Sit out of tourneys that you don't want to be in, I'm sure they have backups incase.

Just don't join games you don't want to play and own up to it with a simple pm or something. There's no need to filter out game types because when you search for a game to join, the whole "Game Finder" page is a filter in itself.

So maybe I'm missing what it is that you have to gain from this filter that you don't already have accessible to you on the game finder page.

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You are missing the point here. Sure we could all say lets not play game X because ....
A) I do not know how long it might last (Speed)
B) I might get overrun by games (Tournaments)
C) My dice stink so I wish not to play anymore right now.
or whatever reason you can think of.

When you join a speed game, you never know how long it will last, but you can guess at it. Most last less than an hour, but I have been in locked up games taking 5 hours. Nobody can plan for a game to last that long. When I game starts at 10pm and goes till 3 am you have 2 options. 1) stay and play or 2) Deadbeat and miss turns. If you get a sitter you are risking it. Sure we can all turn off Channel X also on the TV, but yet there is controls for certain ones. A simple self imposed ban would be helpful to many people.
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Re: Self Ban from Certain Games

Postby neanderpaul14 on Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:46 pm

Could someone please limit me to 8-10 beers a night and 1 1/2 packs of smokes a day??
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Re: Self Ban from Certain Games

Postby Rabid bunnies on Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:56 pm

Is there a better term for this than a self-imposed ban?

When you join a casual game you have 24 hours to make a move... so join only the games you can handle. Don't assume tourneys will never start up... don't make an assumption that a speed game will end fast to the point that you have to consider deadbeating. I'm sure it might happen alot in speed games where someone says: "Sorry guys, this has been longer than I thought, I have to go in 20 minutes".

So this self-imposed ban... what would the terms be? The solution is simple... if I get what you're saying, you join tournament after tournament because you're bored, then you get flooded when they come back and become active? Seriously... expect to play any tournaments you join. If you must... choose between joining too many tournies to avoid being bored or accept being bored to avoid being overrun by games.

What would your self imposed ban look like? How would you use it? What would the effect be for other players relying on you to play?

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Re: Self Ban from Certain Games

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:05 pm

Rabid bunnies wrote:Is there a better term for this than a self-imposed ban?

When you join a casual game you have 24 hours to make a move... so join only the games you can handle. Don't assume tourneys will never start up... don't make an assumption that a speed game will end fast to the point that you have to consider deadbeating. I'm sure it might happen alot in speed games where someone says: "Sorry guys, this has been longer than I thought, I have to go in 20 minutes".

So this self-imposed ban... what would the terms be? The solution is simple... if I get what you're saying, you join tournament after tournament because you're bored, then you get flooded when they come back and become active? Seriously... expect to play any tournaments you join. If you must... choose between joining too many tournies to avoid being bored or accept being bored to avoid being overrun by games.

What would your self imposed ban look like? How would you use it? What would the effect be for other players relying on you to play?

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You are missing the point... Nobody is saying join 50 tournaments hoping 3 will start now and the others at another time. Think about it this way.... You pace yourself paying bills and you are doing fine. Then your car breaks down needing 2K in repairs. All of a sudden you are left in the cold sorta speak. Surely you should know the car is gonna break down and need repairs so plan for it! Sigh like that happens... Same happens with tournaments. When you join you fully expect TO's to make tournaments happen in a timely manner. Not 4 months later should one start. Thus your line of thought is suddenly thrown off. You now have extra games you do not really care for at this time.

As for speed games, I like my 100% attendance rating. You deadbeat out of too many that starts to drop down. What usually happens is the person leaving either A) ruins the game by leaving or B) Suicides into people thus also ruining the game.
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Re: Self Ban from Certain Games

Postby Rabid bunnies on Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:17 pm

Bruceswar wrote:
Rabid bunnies wrote:Is there a better term for this than a self-imposed ban?

When you join a casual game you have 24 hours to make a move... so join only the games you can handle. Don't assume tourneys will never start up... don't make an assumption that a speed game will end fast to the point that you have to consider deadbeating. I'm sure it might happen alot in speed games where someone says: "Sorry guys, this has been longer than I thought, I have to go in 20 minutes".

So this self-imposed ban... what would the terms be? The solution is simple... if I get what you're saying, you join tournament after tournament because you're bored, then you get flooded when they come back and become active? Seriously... expect to play any tournaments you join. If you must... choose between joining too many tournies to avoid being bored or accept being bored to avoid being overrun by games.

What would your self imposed ban look like? How would you use it? What would the effect be for other players relying on you to play?

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You are missing the point... Nobody is saying join 50 tournaments hoping 3 will start now and the others at another time. Think about it this way.... You pace yourself paying bills and you are doing fine. Then your car breaks down needing 2K in repairs. All of a sudden you are left in the cold sorta speak. Surely you should know the car is gonna break down and need repairs so plan for it! Sigh like that happens... Same happens with tournaments. When you join you fully expect TO's to make tournaments happen in a timely manner. Not 4 months later should one start. Thus your line of thought is suddenly thrown off. You now have extra games you do not really care for at this time.

As for speed games, I like my 100% attendance rating. You deadbeat out of too many that starts to drop down. What usually happens is the person leaving either A) ruins the game by leaving or B) Suicides into people thus also ruining the game.



In terms of the tournaments, you should be able to manage your commitments on CC. If you see a tournament taking too long, just message that you are dropping out when you make the decision that you don't want to be a part of it.

If my car was to ever break down, I make sure that I have something planned to handle it. I have a few hundred put away for an emergency or an impulse anytime because I know that if something can go wrong, it can go wrong. Not necessarily that it will... but it can. Manage your tournaments.

Player X, I am writing to inform you that I was under the impression this tournament would be beginning 24 hours/48/72 hours ago. This is not the case and with my growing list of games I do not feel capable of commiting to this this tournament at this time.


Player X, I am writing to inform you that I joined this tournament under the impression it would begin 24 hours ago... if it does not begin in 48 hours, please remove my name and establish a replacement as I will be occupied with numerous other games.

Player X, I don't like your grammar, your avatar is horrible, your tournament isn't starting on time... I'm not having a great day and I can't commit to playing in your tournament because it's not fit the terms you had established when I joined.


If you are still signed up for week-old tournaments that may or may not be resurrected, then message them and remove yourself from the commitment. If you simply want to join tournament after tournament however and don't care about managing your commitments, then you get what you get... left in the cold with a broken-down car wondering why you deposited that extra 300$ in the bank instead of keeping it on you in case of an emergency.

You've still not told me how the ban would affect everyone else? Would you simply be kicked out of the games? How does this differ from the request to have an immediate resignation button?

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Re: Self Ban from Certain Games

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:24 pm

Rabid bunnies wrote:You've still not told me how the ban would affect everyone else? Would you simply be kicked out of the games? How does this differ from the request to have an immediate resignation button?

Jasmine


The ban would not let you join new games for X time. Whatever time frame you set. You cannot drop the games you are already in. That is not how CC works. It is just to help keep any temptations away that might tempt you. Nobody would force you to use it.
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Re: Self Ban from Certain Games

Postby Rabid bunnies on Wed Jun 03, 2009 11:25 pm

Bruceswar wrote:
The ban would not let you join new games for X time. Whatever time frame you set. You cannot drop the games you are already in. That is not how CC works. It is just to help keep any temptations away that might tempt you. Nobody would force you to use it.



I just don't see the mass market appeal for such a gimmic to have to be added. You want ConquerClub to add a gimmic which would prevent you from joining games for a set ammount of time. This is akin giving yourself a time-out. You simply avoid joining games. It seems so simple to me.

You have enough games going... don't join anymore until some end. Is there such a inductive addiction that you must at some point in time always be making a move? Such a temptation that you'll look for game after game that you can join and "do something" only to go to bed, wake up in the morning and realize just how many games you now have going and perhaps regret joining so many because at the time you "wanted something to do"?

It sounds like a crazy idea. On the one hand it sounds lunatic crazy. I remember seeing an old show called "King of the hill" where one of the guys had to hunt (I think it was...) a badger... or a raccoon or something... and he tells his friends: "I'm going to go take that thing down, this is his only way out, no matter how much I beg, don't open the door."

Of course, he gets more than he can handle and he's then begging them to open the gate.


On the other hand you could be crazy like a fox. Where this is almost akin to giving your best friend your car keys because you don't trust yourself at a party and you'd rather not run the risk of driving in 4-5 hours. Not wanting to run the risk of having a few drinks and driving, you give the keys to your friend rather than assume you'll control your drinking. (A relatively sane and modest approach).

Either way, it boils down to you not wanting to join games and I don't think CC needs to add a feature to restrict you from joining games if you choose to. CC's not here to let you into the cage to fight a badger, and have you say: "Don't open the door, no matter how much either of us squeals, yells or begs... don't open this door." only to realize you really want to play another game. It's not a feature that is necessary because it's so much more effective to simply log out. This isn't a CC issue... this is your temptation issue. This is the issue of you "wanting something to do" and not trusting yourself to restrict your game involvement.

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Re: Self Ban from Certain Games

Postby Timminz on Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:41 am

It's much healthier to develop self-control for yourself, rather than expecting others to impose limitations on you.
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Re: Self Ban from Certain Games

Postby owenshooter on Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:55 am

Timminz wrote:While we're at it, could we get something that keeps me from buying cigarettes?

don't forget the cocaine... after the cigarettes and whiskey always comes the cocaine...-0
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Re: Self Ban from Certain Games

Postby neanderpaul14 on Fri Jun 05, 2009 2:41 pm

JUST SAY "NO" TO........speed games???
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