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Make it so that if you're banned you don't get PM's

PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:18 am
by wrestler1ump
Concise description:
  • Banned members do not recieve PM's
  • Forum-banned members can open and use their email inbox.

Specifics:
  • Find a way to disconnect PM's for banned members
  • Find a way to make it so that forum-banned members can open and use their email inbox

This will improve the following aspects of the site:
  • Nobody who is banned wants to be teased by all the PM messages they can't open
  • There is nothing about a forum-ban that says you shouldn't be able to use PM's

Re: Make it so that if you're banned you don't get PM's

PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 1:12 am
by blakebowling
You seem to contradict yourself. You say that banned members do not recieve PM's, you say that they can use email. Then you say that PM's should be "disconnected", and you say they should be able to use e-mail.

Can you clearly state what this suggestion is for??

Re: Make it so that if you're banned you don't get PM's

PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:27 am
by lancehoch
Blake, he is saying that a banned player can receive PMs, but is unable to open and/or read the PMs. I guess you are looking to have an automatic response message to the effect of "This player is currently forum banned and cannot receive PMs"?

Re: Make it so that if you're banned you don't get PM's

PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:54 am
by Rocketry
Totally agree and support this idea! There is no need for banned people to recieve PMs they can't read... tantalizing! But yea, its just plain stupid at the moment....

Rocketry

Re: Make it so that if you're banned you don't get PM's

PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:38 am
by wrestler1ump
I am differentiating between forum banned and totally banned members. I think forum banned members should be able to open and send PM's, and totally banned members should have their inbox disabled so they don't get tantalized with PM's they can't open.

Re: Make it so that if you're banned you don't get PM's

PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:51 am
by got tonkaed
It also seems like if forum banned members were for whatever reason involved in a tournament it may improve the site by not holding up tournaments as a result of players being unable to communicate with their tournament director. Im not sure how real of a problem this is, but it seems like it could be something that could be potentially improved upon if it was.

Re: Make it so that if you're banned you don't get PM's

PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 11:04 am
by max is gr8
I think they should be allowed to open PMs. If they are forum banned and someone wants to talk they should use a quicktopic. Or Chat

Re: Make it so that if you're banned you don't get PM's

PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 11:11 am
by Night Strike
What about those people who receive a forum vacation for severe PM abuse? Keep in mind that there can't be a separate setting for just them (too much time to code or means an admin has to handle it and not a mod).

Re: Make it so that if you're banned you don't get PM's

PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 11:35 am
by DarthBlood
Night Strike wrote:What about those people who receive a forum vacation for severe PM abuse? Keep in mind that there can't be a separate setting for just them (too much time to code or means an admin has to handle it and not a mod).

if it's a severe pm abuse, make it a total ban then.

Re: Make it so that if you're banned you don't get PM's

PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 4:17 pm
by owenshooter
Night Strike wrote:What about those people who receive a forum vacation for severe PM abuse? Keep in mind that there can't be a separate setting for just them (too much time to code or means an admin has to handle it and not a mod).

wow, does this even need to be answered? *shaking my head*... the black jesus has giggled...-0

Re: Make it so that if you're banned you don't get PM's

PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 7:49 am
by wrestler1ump
Night Strike wrote:What about those people who receive a forum vacation for severe PM abuse? Keep in mind that there can't be a separate setting for just them (too much time to code or means an admin has to handle it and not a mod).


Then they can just disable that person's inbox so that they can't recieve messages either, or just give the person a permaban.

Re: Make it so that if you're banned you don't get PM's

PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 8:49 am
by gimil
wrestler1ump wrote:Concise description:
  • Banned members do not recieve PM's
  • Forum-banned members can open and use their email inbox.

Specifics:
  • Find a way to disconnect PM's for banned members
  • Find a way to make it so that forum-banned members can open and use their email inbox

This will improve the following aspects of the site:
  • Nobody who is banned wants to be teased by all the PM messages they can't open
  • There is nothing about a forum-ban that says you shouldn't be able to use PM's


I don't really believe the coding time it would take for this would have any real benefit for the site. Why should lack spend time coding something that will result in banned members not being 'teased'. Do they deserve coding time so that they don't get teased? Isn't it there own fault they are in that position?

On this point:
[*]There is nothing about a forum-ban that says you shouldn't be able to use PM's


PM are in actual fact part of the php forum software. So if you are forum banned, I am assuming that means you are not allowed to use any part of forum software, including PM's.

Re: Make it so that if you're banned you don't get PM's

PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 6:08 pm
by wrestler1ump
gimil wrote:
wrestler1ump wrote:Concise description:
  • Banned members do not recieve PM's
  • Forum-banned members can open and use their email inbox.

Specifics:
  • Find a way to disconnect PM's for banned members
  • Find a way to make it so that forum-banned members can open and use their email inbox

This will improve the following aspects of the site:
  • Nobody who is banned wants to be teased by all the PM messages they can't open
  • There is nothing about a forum-ban that says you shouldn't be able to use PM's


I don't really believe the coding time it would take for this would have any real benefit for the site. Why should lack spend time coding something that will result in banned members not being 'teased'. Do they deserve coding time so that they don't get teased? Isn't it there own fault they are in that position?

On this point:
[*]There is nothing about a forum-ban that says you shouldn't be able to use PM's


PM are in actual fact part of the php forum software. So if you are forum banned, I am assuming that means you are not allowed to use any part of forum software, including PM's.


Fair enough. I still think the consequence we should avoid is having a number beside the Inbox and not being able to open it. Maybe instead of recieving a ban, members should have their points deducted by 50% or something like that. Just kidding.

Re: Make it so that if you're banned you don't get PM's

PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 7:19 pm
by sailorseal
It's pretty much already done, you get them but you cannot read them

Re: Make it so that if you're banned you don't get PM's

PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:11 am
by FabledIntegral
I agree with the entire concept of "why do we care about the banned members..."

Re: Make it so that if you're banned you don't get PM's

PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:36 am
by owenshooter
sailorseal wrote:It's pretty much already done, you get them but you cannot read them

not really... that is exactly the issue he wants resolved... reading comprehension goes a very long way on the forums... the black jesus supports literacy, visit a bookmobile today...-0

Re: Make it so that if you're banned you don't get PM's

PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:39 am
by owenshooter
FabledIntegral wrote:I agree with the entire concept of "why do we care about the banned members..."

you may be banned from the forums, but that does not mean you are banned from games. if you are banned and cannot read your pm's. things like passwords or notifications for clan wars/tournaments are unable to be read. those have absolutely nothing to do with the forums and affect more than one member when those PM's can not be acted upon... the black jesus has spoken...-0