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add this to the the rules

PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:36 am
by Jeff Hardy
Concise description:
  • add "do not send auto-join links without warning people what they are" to the rules

Specifics:
  • i was in live chat and someone sent a link and i clicked it and almost got stuck in a game i didnt want to be in...
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    im pretty sure its against the rules but he probably didnt know that so i dont want to report him

This will improve the following aspects of the site:
  • everyone would know that its not allowed and it wouldnt happen

Re: add this to the the rules

PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 8:56 am
by jpcloet
I agree that this should probably be in the rules since this technique was used by farmers to lure unsuspecting new players. However, you should never open a link you don't know about. Hopefully you don't open all the attachments in your email ;)

Having said that, good form would be to say what the settings are and even a link to the game (without auto-join) as well. My internal clan tournaments used to be just the join as people trusted me to do the correct thing, however, I now include as much info just in case they forgot what tournament they signed up for.

Generally the pm looks like this:

PM Title Referencing Tournament
Player Name
Game (linked)
Password
Game (auto-linked)

Re: add this to the the rules

PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:27 pm
by Night Strike
It's already included in the Community Guidelines.

Un-noted Automatic Join Game Links

  • If you post an Automatic Join Game Link, you must note that it is so to warn other users who may click on the link before the game is filled.


I've warned Deathwind.

Re: add this to the the rules

PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:31 pm
by Deathwind
Oh my word.....

Re: add this to the the rules

PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:23 pm
by Jeff Hardy
Night Strike wrote:It's already included in the Community Guidelines.

Un-noted Automatic Join Game Links

  • If you post an Automatic Join Game Link, you must note that it is so to warn other users who may click on the link before the game is filled.


I've warned Deathwind.

this has nothing to do with deathwind, i was only using it as an example because not everyone knows this rule

Re: add this to the the rules

PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:07 pm
by owenshooter
Jeff Hardy wrote:this has nothing to do with deathwind, i was only using it as an example because not everyone knows this rule

sooo, deathwind posts an auto-join link... you click it... almost get in the game, but escape... come to Suggestions to suggest making it against the rules to do this, which it already is. deathwind receives a warning about it all. and somehow, this is not about deathwind? hmmmm.... as was stated by a mod, it's already against the rules:
If you post an Automatic Join Game Link, you must note that it is so to warn other users who may click on the link before the game is filled.
the black jesus has sspoken...-0

Re: add this to the the rules

PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:11 pm
by TheBro
It's not about Deathwind in the fact that it is about everyone. I had no idea it was against the rules, nobody warned me! Making the link different somehow would be nice, in case someone forgot to warn you...

And Deathwind was already warned by Jeff.... another warning was redundant, but I guess he'll never do that again!

Re: add this to the the rules

PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:13 pm
by Night Strike
TheBro wrote:And Deathwind was already warned by Jeff.... another warning was redundant, but I guess he'll never do that again!


Jeff isn't a mod, so his warning means squat. ;)

Re: add this to the the rules

PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:20 pm
by Jeff Hardy
owenshooter wrote:
Jeff Hardy wrote:this has nothing to do with deathwind, i was only using it as an example because not everyone knows this rule

sooo, deathwind posts an auto-join link... you click it... almost get in the game, but escape... come to Suggestions to suggest making it against the rules to do this, which it already is. deathwind receives a warning about it all. and somehow, this is not about deathwind? hmmmm.... as was stated by a mod, it's already against the rules:
If you post an Automatic Join Game Link, you must note that it is so to warn other users who may click on the link before the game is filled.
the black jesus has sspoken...-0

i made the suggestion because of auto join links, if i had wanted deathwind to get a warning i wouldve gone to C&A. i was only using what happened in live chat as an example!

its better if this is added to the rules because the community guidelines are too long for everyone to bother to read and it says you dont have to read them if you arent intentionally going to be an asshole, which a lot of the people that send the links arent.

Re: add this to the the rules

PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:23 am
by TheBro
Night Strike wrote:
TheBro wrote:And Deathwind was already warned by Jeff.... another warning was redundant, but I guess he'll never do that again!


Jeff isn't a mod, so his warning means squat. ;)


And yours does? :P Jeff's warning has prevented Deathwind from using auto links, yours went into the trash can. :lol: An official warning was/is a good idea. I am just not man enough to admit in in the regular sized font.

Still, unless we can differentiate them somehow, cases like these will most likely still occur. How many people are reading the live chat or the suggestions page?

Re: add this to the the rules

PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 2:04 pm
by sailorseal
or maybe people will just not click every link they see

Re: add this to the the rules

PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:44 pm
by Jeff Hardy
live chat wrote:20/01/2009 23:37:44 ‹lanyards› Appalachian, I'll find a better game for us to join.
20/01/2009 23:37:52 ‹lanyards› That map will blow your head off.
20/01/2009 23:37:57 ‹Appalachian› cc
20/01/2009 23:38:15 ‹lanyards› Appalachian, http://www.conquerclub.com/pla...&team=2
20/01/2009 23:38:16 ‹Appalachian› Im trying to get into more doubs games
20/01/2009 23:38:20 ‹lanyards› Click that link
20/01/2009 23:38:23 ‹lanyards› NOBODY ELSE
20/01/2009 23:38:25 ‹lanyards› click it
20/01/2009 23:38:44 ‹lanyards› Okay, we joined.
20/01/2009 23:38:50 * lanyards quit (kicked from Social by Night Strike - reason: no reason)
20/01/2009 23:39:13 ‹Appalachian› cool
20/01/2009 23:39:18 * lanyards joins Social
20/01/2009 23:39:25 ‹lanyards› ?
20/01/2009 23:39:31 ‹Night Strike› You're in idiot.
20/01/2009 23:39:37 ‹Night Strike› Is it that hard to open a PM to send the link?
20/01/2009 23:39:40 ‹Tisha› you can't post join links
20/01/2009 23:39:50 ‹lanyards› He wanted to join.
20/01/2009 23:39:52 ‹lanyards› Ok.
20/01/2009 23:39:56 ‹lanyards› I want do it.
20/01/2009 23:39:59 ‹lanyards› I didn't know.
20/01/2009 23:40:03 ‹lanyards› Geez.

Re: add this to the the rules

PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:55 pm
by Kotaro
Okay, so it's the rules fault that, although it's already in there, people don't read it?

Re: add this to the the rules

PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:56 pm
by Night Strike
As I stated in chat, the Rules page is for those severe rules that garner the worst punishments (oftentimes without warning). The Live Chat and Community Guidelines aren't on there because not every member uses those features. If the member wishes to use those features, then those specific rules are clearly accessible on the applicable pages.

Re: add this to the the rules

PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:10 pm
by owenshooter
Night Strike wrote:As I stated in chat, the Rules page is for those severe rules that garner the worst punishments (oftentimes without warning). The Live Chat and Community Guidelines aren't on there because not every member uses those features. If the member wishes to use those features, then those specific rules are clearly accessible on the applicable pages.

hmmm, doesn't mean they all couldn't still be listed on the same page, does it? nope. looks like you'd just have seperate headings and seperate them accordingly. right?

-THE RULES
-Live Chat Rules
-Community Guidelines

it would just be nice to have all the rules in one area, so they are easy to find. i don't find that such a difficult request... oh, wait, a thread about it already exists!!! complete with the proper form and everything!

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=75289

the black jesus has spoken...-0

p.s.-word to your mother....
p.p.s.-stop reading these NS
p.p.p.s.-seriously, just stop