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punishment SUGGESTION for cheaters

Postby 2dank on Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:24 pm

Punishments
  • Enforce CC's rules for once. Punish cheaters, Suiciders

Specifics:
  • 1) Suiciders account ban for 1 month weather Premium or not. Increase punishment for repeat offenders.
  • 2) Cheaters Secret alliances Same as above.

This will improve the following aspects of the site:
  • Old Premium members like myself who have not renew because of cheaters ruining games might just renew.
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Re: punishment SUGGESTION for cheaters

Postby lancehoch on Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:26 pm

One man's suicide is another man's last ditch effort to win a game. There is no actual definition of suicide on the site, so there can be no punishment for it.
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Re: punishment SUGGESTION for cheaters

Postby 2dank on Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:07 pm

One man's suicide is another man's last ditch effort to win a game. There is no actual definition of suicide on the site, so there can be no punishment for it.


Really...... So then this means NOTHING!

Unwritten Rules

Obviously any gross abuse of the game is forbidden. This includes but is not limited to: throwing games or deliberately benefiting from thrown games, intentional deadbeating, serial teammate killing, hijacking accounts.


When a player like SummerFOOL Suicides into me. He just committed "throwing games" as he had no chance of regaining a position to win the game. His Suicide is a deliberate Throwing of the GAME!

If you can't see that clearly then you are not fit to be a MOD!


Then make one and enforce the rules around here.

Throwing a game in the unwritten rules by suicide takes all the fun out of a game!

Even more so when you played a good game, got yourself way out in the lead for another player to suicide and throw the game in the garbage!

Making so neither the leader of the game or the suicider have any chance of winning!

Why would people pay to play a game if it can be ruined by a poor sport who can't handle losing fairly?

This is why I will not renew my account again until you create more rules to govern game play!

Maybe you should think about that a little bit. I also know other pass members that will not renew because of SH*T like the above story!
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Re: punishment SUGGESTION for cheaters

Postby Stroop on Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:12 pm

2dank wrote:Even more so when you played a good game, got yourself way out in the lead for another player to suicide and throw the game in the garbage!


Apparently you're not way out in the lead if one player can cripple you so badly that you can't win the game anymore.

2dank wrote:Making so neither the leader of the game or the suicider have any chance of winning!


Actually, by making sure the leader can't win, they've got more chance of winning than before, slim as it may be.

2dank wrote:Why would people pay to play a game if it can be ruined by a poor sport who can't handle losing fairly?


Why do you assume that smaller players need to roll over and die for you once you've gained the upper hand?
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Re: punishment SUGGESTION for cheaters

Postby 2dank on Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:14 pm

Apparently you're not way out in the lead if one player can cripple you so badly that you can't win the game anymore.



Apparently you don't know what you are commenting on. SummerFool Stacked every guy he had to brake me. 130 guys. It was the only way I could have been broken. And if he had just broken me I wouldn't be bitching.

But he Suicided, there by ruining the WHOLE GAME. Leaving himself & I no Chance of regaining strength enough for either of us to recover.





Stroop your an idiot!
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Re: punishment SUGGESTION for cheaters

Postby Stroop on Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:21 pm

2dank wrote:Stroop your an idiot!

Possibly.

It doesn't take away that you can't get over losing a game that you thought you had won, and that you're now making a fool out of yourself with this thread...

Threatening with the loss of 25 bucks because you won't renew is also laughable...
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Re: punishment SUGGESTION for cheaters

Postby 2dank on Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:30 pm

Stroop

I just want to see the site improved. For the game to be played without ASSHATS ruining games.

I myself don't want to pay to play a game that some ASSHAT can ruin at any given moment on a whim.

I see no fun in that and it isn't worth me spending my hard earned cash on.

If you find that a bad thing then you are more of an idiot than I thought.


Is it a bad thing I want the site to get better by adding a few more clearly defined rules on Suicider's and secret alliances?
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Re: punishment SUGGESTION for cheaters

Postby cicero on Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:06 pm

Gentlemen to your corners please ...

A couple of points for all to remember to ensure this potentially useful thread doesn't get locked/modedited for flaming/baiting/being something other than the discussion of a suggestion/bug.

When a member posts something you don't agree with:
DO post a counter argument which makes it clear why the member's post is flawed.
DON'T post to suggest that the other member is flawed.

When it comes to personal opinion:
EVERYBODY has one.
NO-ONE is "right".

Basically gentlemen can we leave the "idiot" vocabulary at the door please.
Oh and if you want to discuss the fitness of individual moderators for their posts I would suggest that you raise it via PM with one of the administrators. Or, if you're really just letting off steam, in Flame Wars. Basically not in this forum.
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Re: punishment SUGGESTION for cheaters

Postby cicero on Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:10 pm

2dank

When lancehoch said...
One man's suicide is another man's last ditch effort to win a game. There is no actual definition of suicide on the site, so there can be no punishment for it.
He was absolutely right in the first part. And, as you pointed out, absolutely wrong in the second part :) *

As you noted ...
Unwritten Rules

Obviously any gross abuse of the game is forbidden. This includes but is not limited to: throwing games or deliberately benefiting from thrown games, intentional deadbeating, serial teammate killing, hijacking accounts.

I believe the important word there is "gross". One case of apparent suicide is not gross abuse. If it truly was suicide then sure it's abuse but not gross abuse. To be gross abuse I believe it would need to occur in more than one game.

Game Finder reveals that you and summerhill have only played two games. You won one fairly straightforwardly and the second both you and Summerhill played well in; such that you were both among the last three players from five starting players on a World 2.1 game.

As lancehoch said, and I agree, one player's suicide is another player's last ditch attempt at glory ...

If there's an actual suggestion to discuss please let's continue to discuss that here in Suggestions & Bug Reports. If there's evidence to support a complaint of abuse please present it in the Cheating & Abuse Reports forum thread you started **; though I would suggest that foeing summerhill, as you say you have, is probably the appropriate action to take.

2dank, if this post raises questions or comments that can't legitimately be discussed in this thread - since they are not on topic for the actual suggestion - please do send me a PM, I'm happy to discuss further.

Cicero


* lancehoch, it's true mate ;)

** I can't believe how much time I spent on this post only to find after I finish it that you've had this whole argument already over in Cheating & Abuse Reports.
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