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Rank below cook needed - Waiter - POLL !

PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:27 pm
by ManBungalow
Hey everyone, I don't know what I'm doing but I was wondering if we could use a rank below the realms of cookliness.
Does anyone think that the gap between 1 and 800 points is insane? What would happen if we introduced a new rank? The waiter?
Having a waiter would improve the site by showing in more detail who you are playing. For example- if a high ranking officer was playing a cook with 700 points and another cook with 300 points and was losing both of them; the officer would lose twice as many points to the 300 pointer cook than he would to the 700 pointer cook, but to the officer's eyes the 2 cooks are equal. I suggest we introduce a "Waiter" rank ranging from say 1 point up to 400 points.

Re: Rank below cook needed- Waiter

PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:28 pm
by Night Strike
The problem with making more ranks for the lower point levels is that it would actually increase intentional deadbeating and throwing games because some people would want the distinction of having the different/new rank.

Re: Rank below cook needed- Waiter

PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:30 pm
by Jackspratt
ManBungalow wrote:Hey everyone, I don't know what I'm doing but I was wondering if we could use a rank below the realms of cookliness.
Does anyone think that the gap between 1 and 800 points is insane? What would happen if we introduced a new rank? The waiter?
Having a waiter would improve the site by showing in more detail who you are playing. For example- if a high ranking officer was playing a cook with 700 points and another cook with 300 points and was losing both of them; the officer would lose twice as many points to the 300 pointer cook than he would to the 700 pointer cook, but to the officer's eyes the 2 cooks are equal. I suggest we introduce a "Waiter" rank ranging from say 1 point up to 400 points.




Brilliant idea, however 'Pan Basher' (Washer Upper) might be more appropiate!? :lol:

Re: Rank below cook needed- Waiter

PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:38 pm
by Timminz
How about we call the new rank "Perma-banned"? Anyone below, say, 300 points can't play anymore. I doubt you'll find anyone below that, who hasn't been losing intentionally anyway.

Re: Rank below cook needed- Waiter

PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:47 pm
by Nickbaldwin
Yes ban people for being shit great idea #-o

Re: Rank below cook needed- Waiter

PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:49 pm
by Timminz
Nickbaldwin wrote:Yes ban people for being shit great idea #-o


Make it 100 points then. I believe strongly that no one can maintain a rank that low, naturally.

Re: Rank below cook needed- Waiter

PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:12 pm
by ManBungalow
Yeah, I love the idea that you get punished in some way for going under something like 100 points. That would sort out anyone who deadbeats on purpose to get 1 point altogether.

Re: Rank below cook needed- Waiter

PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:23 pm
by This Is Sparta
Great idea, I too always thought the gap between 1 and 800 points is too great for only 1 rank to fulfill. I don't see any problem with having an additional below Cook.

Re: Rank below cook needed- Waiter

PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:34 am
by e_i_pi
If we're going to have Waiter, can there be a rank below that called Dumb-Waiter? :P

Re: Rank below cook needed- Waiter

PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:38 am
by ManBungalow
I guess so lol
I'll be really impressed if they do actually introduce the waiter

Re: Rank below cook needed- Waiter

PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:09 pm
by bedub1
ManBungalow wrote:I guess so lol
I'll be really impressed if they do actually introduce the waiter

Why not? Sounds like a great idea to me!

Re: Rank below cook needed- Waiter

PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:21 pm
by reggie_mac
Brilliant idea, although waiter is probably not the right term, i'd like to see dish-pis (pot scrubber, or some other kitchen name) but my personal favorite would be "Janitor" because it has more implications for how shite they are :)

Re: Rank below cook needed- Waiter

PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:30 pm
by KoE_Sirius
Timminz wrote:How about we call the new rank "Perma-banned"? Anyone below, say, 300 points can't play anymore. I doubt you'll find anyone below that, who hasn't been losing intentionally anyway.

Yeah then Lack can make loads of money under force pretences .wooohooo :lol:

Re: Rank below cook needed- Waiter

PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:52 am
by MrBenn

Re: Rank below cook needed- Waiter

PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 12:44 pm
by FabledIntegral
There is no difference whatsoever amongst cooks whatever their rank - so why make a difference in rank? Personally - I would be fine if the cook rank extended all the way until rank 1200. I can't find even a slight difference between a person with a score of 800 vs 1200... they all just auto attack whatever big number is next to them because of getting nervous. More ranks is a bad thing... it takes away from the distinction in skill gaps. The newly suggested ranks... earning a new rank means hardly anything. There'd be hardly any difference in skill between 3 different ranks even... while now if you look at the difference in skill between a lieutenant and colonel it's phenomenal at how poorly a lieutenant plays.

EDIT: just saw the higher up ranks haven't really been changed... I thought they were MUCH different.. maybe it's a different list than what I last saw. I could care less about the changes in the lower ranks... there is hardly any difference between them anyways atm.

Re: Rank below cook needed- Waiter

PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 12:57 pm
by chipv
Just one point, when you play 1200s (if at all) do you ever look to see how many games they have played?

I agree an 800 over 500 games is probably no worse than a 1200 over 500 games but every good player starts somewhere so
a 1200 over 3 games is potentially as good as a Field Marshal... you just don't know it yet.

Re: Rank below cook needed- Waiter

PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:51 pm
by ManBungalow
I think a Conscientious Objector rank (or Waiter ;) ) could be a great idea. If i lose to a cook with 700 odd points then I'm only going to lose 40/50 something maybe. If, however, I lose to a cook with say 10 points I will lose 100 points. Unless I check the profile of every cook I play, I won't know when to change my strategy accordingly.

Re: Rank below cook needed- Waiter

PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:57 pm
by FabledIntegral
chipv wrote:Just one point, when you play 1200s (if at all) do you ever look to see how many games they have played?

I agree an 800 over 500 games is probably no worse than a 1200 over 500 games but every good player starts somewhere so
a 1200 over 3 games is potentially as good as a Field Marshal... you just don't know it yet.


Someone who has played 3 games has never played the types of games I play or is a multi - the word "potentially" is the only word that keeps your claim valid...

Re: Rank below cook needed- Waiter

PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:00 pm
by chipv
FabledIntegral wrote:
chipv wrote:Just one point, when you play 1200s (if at all) do you ever look to see how many games they have played?

I agree an 800 over 500 games is probably no worse than a 1200 over 500 games but every good player starts somewhere so
a 1200 over 3 games is potentially as good as a Field Marshal... you just don't know it yet.


Someone who has played 3 games has never played the types of games I've play or is a multi - the word "potentially" is the only word that keeps your claim valid...


The word potentially is the crux of the distinction, but I did like your response (it's a good point) nevertheless even if that was not the intention.

Re: Rank below cook needed- Waiter

PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:02 pm
by FabledIntegral
chipv wrote:
FabledIntegral wrote:
chipv wrote:Just one point, when you play 1200s (if at all) do you ever look to see how many games they have played?

I agree an 800 over 500 games is probably no worse than a 1200 over 500 games but every good player starts somewhere so
a 1200 over 3 games is potentially as good as a Field Marshal... you just don't know it yet.


Someone who has played 3 games has never played the types of games I've play or is a multi - the word "potentially" is the only word that keeps your claim valid...


The word potentially is the crux of the distinction, but I did like your response (it's a good point) nevertheless even if that was not the intention.


Don't take my words as if they were harsh - it's merely the manner in which I post.

Re: Rank below cook needed- Waiter

PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:09 pm
by chipv
Nah, I didn't think you were harsh at all, Fabled. I enjoy your posts and would far rather engage you in conversation than someone who bores the living crap out of me. Carry on.

Re: Rank below cook needed- Waiter

PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:17 pm
by happy2seeyou
It shouldn't be "waiter" it should be "potato peeler" or "dish washer"

Re: Rank below cook needed- Waiter

PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:28 pm
by Scott-Land
happy2seeyou wrote:It shouldn't be "waiter" it should be "potato peeler" or "dish washer"



How about a Welcome mat ?

Re: Rank below cook needed- Waiter

PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:56 pm
by jiminski
happy2seeyou wrote:It shouldn't be "waiter" it should be "potato peeler" or "dish washer"



Well in fairness they do say that the worst part of war is the waiting!

Re: Rank below cook needed- Waiter

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:01 am
by blakebowling
I think it should be called n00b :lol: