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Exclude tournament games from waiting game limit

Posted:
Thu May 22, 2008 3:57 pm
by killmanic
I enter many tournaments and I have well over 10 tournament games waiting to start and then there is mapblaster where I have to join 42 at one time. This is a major problem from me as I would go over the limit. If tournament games didnt count towards the game limit it would be alot better for those who frequently join tournaments since this happens from time to time, when people dont join games and people have to wait a few days for a replacement.
If the system were to be changed to make it so tournament games dont count towards the amount of waiting games you can have it would make tournaments alot smoother to join and also cause more people to join the tournaments, since there are likely people who dont join since they already have alot of games waiting to start.
Re: Exclude tournament games from waiting game limit

Posted:
Thu May 22, 2008 4:06 pm
by Natewolfman
ADDITIONAL PROBLEM
my list is currently at 50 (do to map blaster plus many other tournaments) but because my list is at 50, i cant create any new tournament games! even though im not playing in the games, i cant create them either... this is BAD because my tournaments stay on a schedual, when this schedual is interupted it ruins the flow i have very closly managed... not to mantion participants get annoyed (espcially free players who are keeping a spot open SPECIFICALLY for my tournament) this rule is not good... we need it changed to exclude tournaments for sure
Re: Exclude tournament games from waiting game limit

Posted:
Thu May 22, 2008 4:17 pm
by Optimus Prime
Yep,... this is a problem... I'll get the ball rolling on this one guys. Never fear, the Fixerbots are here!
Re: Exclude tournament games from waiting game limit

Posted:
Thu May 22, 2008 4:19 pm
by killmanic
Optimus Prime wrote:Yep,... this is a problem... I'll get the ball rolling on this one guys. Never fear, the Fixerbots are here!
thanks the tourney games just keep coming and coming but I have no room left, thanks for the help.
Re: Exclude tournament games from waiting game limit

Posted:
Thu May 22, 2008 5:20 pm
by Herakilla
rah rah rah
Re: Exclude tournament games from waiting game limit

Posted:
Thu May 22, 2008 5:59 pm
by lancehoch
This would only work for premium members. For non premium members, the 4 game limit counts the games that are currently active and waiting for players. If the limit is lifted for tournament games then a player has the potential for playing in more than 4 games at once. The change should only be for premium members. Also, the limit for waiting games should not have an effect on games created for a tournament.
Re: Exclude tournament games from waiting game limit

Posted:
Thu May 22, 2008 6:03 pm
by Natewolfman
lancehoch wrote:This would only work for premium members. For non premium members, the 4 game limit counts the games that are currently active and waiting for players. If the limit is lifted for tournament games then a player has the potential for playing in more than 4 games at once. The change should only be for premium members. Also, the limit for waiting games should not have an effect on games created for a tournament.
definately agree... but for me at least the time limit dosnt effect me too bad since if players dont join in 3 days they are booted and replaced

not that it matters though cuz i cant create more games for my players right now

Re: Exclude tournament games from waiting game limit

Posted:
Thu May 22, 2008 6:33 pm
by Night Strike
Nate, could you drop one or two of your waiting games and see if that will let you create tournament games?
Re: Exclude tournament games from waiting game limit

Posted:
Thu May 22, 2008 6:34 pm
by barterer2002
There's a limit on waiting games? That seems silly I always thought that as premiums we could join as many games as we desired. Why is there a limit on waiting games at all?
Re: Exclude tournament games from waiting game limit

Posted:
Thu May 22, 2008 6:40 pm
by AndyDufresne
There is a limit of 50 games awaiting players to keep away problems such as a user unintentionally creating hundreds of games, or a script intentionally creating hundreds of games.
--Andy
Re: Exclude tournament games from waiting game limit

Posted:
Thu May 22, 2008 6:46 pm
by Natewolfman
Night Strike wrote:Nate, could you drop one or two of your waiting games and see if that will let you create tournament games?
ayeaye, i dropped a couple of the map blasters since, and i can create games again... But now i have 50+games i still need to join but cant do to the waiting, not to mention other tournaments that are sending me PMs for my games
as long as im not at 50 i can create games that im not in... but it will slow things down in other areas, such as say killmanic is up in one of my tournaments to join 4 games or so, but he is full in waiting so my tournament still ends up slowing way down waiting for hims other games to fill so he can join mine?
AndyDufresne wrote:There is a limit of 50 games awaiting players to keep away problems such as a user unintentionally creating hundreds of games, or a script intentionally creating hundreds of games
andy-ayeaye, i totally understand the reasoning behind it, and for the most part its a good idea

but in the realm of tournaments its hurting more then helping
Re: Exclude tournament games from waiting game limit

Posted:
Thu May 22, 2008 7:02 pm
by AndyDufresne
Agreed, if something isn't already in the works (I'm not sure at this exact moment, as know a lot of behind the scenes Tournament stuff is going on), I'm sure it will commence sometime.
--Andy
Re: Exclude tournament games from waiting game limit

Posted:
Thu May 22, 2008 7:03 pm
by Night Strike
Natewolfman wrote:ayeaye, i dropped a couple of the map blasters since, and i can create games again... But now i have 50+games i still need to join but cant do to the waiting, not to mention other tournaments that are sending me PMs for my games
as long as im not at 50 i can create games that im not in... but it will slow things down in other areas, such as say killmanic is up in one of my tournaments to join 4 games or so, but he is full in waiting so my tournament still ends up slowing way down waiting for hims other games to fill so he can join mine?
Just make sure the other organizers know that you will be the last one to join your games. I believe this happened to one of the players in one of OPie's tourneys. Just tell everybody to be patient, and if they don't, PM a TD.
Re: Exclude tournament games from waiting game limit

Posted:
Thu May 22, 2008 10:03 pm
by killmanic
AndyDufresne wrote:Agreed, if something isn't already in the works (I'm not sure at this exact moment, as know a lot of behind the scenes Tournament stuff is going on), I'm sure it will commence sometime.
--Andy
the problem with sometime is the more this happens the more it causes the problem and thus they cycle repeats it has to be solved quickly or it could fully kill tournaments.
Re: Exclude tournament games from waiting game limit

Posted:
Thu May 22, 2008 10:30 pm
by gcwca_4_life
it sounds like a good idea..
but only for premium..
non premium can still only have the 4 game limit...
and that could tend to be problems in tourney games 2...
Re: Exclude tournament games from waiting game limit

Posted:
Fri May 23, 2008 2:23 am
by Bruceswar
Sounds like a reasonable request. It also sounds like people are addicted.

Needless to say I think this could be worked on.
Re: Exclude tournament games from waiting game limit

Posted:
Fri May 23, 2008 3:35 am
by lord voldemort
gwca of coarse its only for premium...they can only join 4 games at a time
anyway excellent idea imo
im sure something like this will get done...opie will lead the way
Re: Exclude tournament games from waiting game limit

Posted:
Fri May 23, 2008 3:43 am
by daydream
i absolutely agree with this.
Re: Exclude tournament games from waiting game limit

Posted:
Fri May 23, 2008 8:41 am
by Natewolfman
Bruceswar wrote:Sounds like a reasonable request. It also sounds like people are
addicted.

Needless to say I think this could be worked on.
need my fix

Re: Exclude tournament games from waiting game limit

Posted:
Sat May 24, 2008 7:20 pm
by killmanic
very important topic for tournaments please make this happen
Re: Exclude tournament games from waiting game limit

Posted:
Sun May 25, 2008 1:07 am
by Night Strike
killmanic wrote:very important topic for tournaments please make this happen
I sent lack a PM about it, but he hasn't replied to it (although it was opened). I know he's working on a couple other things, so hopefully he'll get back on this Monday-ish.
Re: Exclude tournament games from waiting game limit

Posted:
Sun May 25, 2008 2:21 am
by killmanic
thanks for the update if you can keep us posted that would be great.
Re: Exclude tournament games from waiting game limit

Posted:
Mon May 26, 2008 9:05 am
by lackattack
I'll look into this shortly after the upcoming update

Re: Exclude tournament games from waiting game limit

Posted:
Mon May 26, 2008 9:07 am
by lord voldemort
lackattack wrote:I'll look into this shortly after the upcoming update

update today...now i dont wanna sleep

Re: Exclude tournament games from waiting game limit

Posted:
Mon May 26, 2008 9:11 am
by firth4eva
Also, I had 50 games awaiting players and tried joining 2 players which would(obviously) start immediately but I couldn't due to my 50 games waiting for players.