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point loss reform, based on rank in game

PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 6:47 pm
by a.sub
RANKED WINS/LOSES
let me make this very simple, i think that the way points are distribute should be that
1st loses points to none but earns from every one
2nd place earns points from all but 1st and loses points to 1st
3rd loses points to 1st and 2nd but earns points from 4th etc
this should go until the end of the chain, that way everyone after the midway rank (ie 3rd in a 5 person match) will lose points and all above will either lose less or even gain if they were the underdog.

WHY:
because in he current ranking system placing 2nd and placing last are rated the exact same. This is wrong because the entire purpose of the ranking system is to say which player has a better chance of winning a game, so if one places 2nd in a game and one places 7th, the person with the position of 2nd should receive less penalty, than the person who ranked 7th, because that would better represent the probability of that player winning in another game, hence enhancing the purpose of the ranking system.

ps another option is to reduce the penalty of losing as u near 1st place. so currently the the equation used is (loser's score / winner's score) * 20 we can make it so the penalty is reduced as u near one by making the equation something similar to (loser's score / winner's score) * (10+position) position referring to 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc so last place loses more than 2nd (if they had the same score)

-Adith

Re: point loss reform, based on rank in game

PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 7:01 pm
by Splash_x
so this wouldn't work for terminator or assassin...

Re: point loss reform, based on rank in game

PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 7:02 pm
by Bones2484
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Re: point loss reform, based on rank in game

PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 7:07 pm
by Herakilla
this is world domination, you have to conquer the world or kill your enemies whichever works if you dont do that you arent a winner

Re: point loss reform, based on rank in game

PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 7:35 pm
by a.sub
Splash_x wrote:so this wouldn't work for terminator or assassin...

no it wouldnt

Re: point loss reform, based on rank in game

PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 7:37 pm
by a.sub
Herakilla wrote:this is world domination, you have to conquer the world or kill your enemies whichever works if you dont do that you arent a winner

yes, but if you get close and barely lose do u deserve the same point penalty as someone who sucked, made terrible decisions, and lost in 5 minutes?

Re: point loss reform, based on rank in game

PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 7:38 pm
by Bones2484
a.sub wrote:
Herakilla wrote:this is world domination, you have to conquer the world or kill your enemies whichever works if you dont do that you arent a winner

yes, but if you get close and barely lose do u deserve the same point penalty as someone who sucked, made terrible decisions, and lost in 5 minutes?


Yes, you do. Can you imagine how the play would be different if your proposal went through?

Green: Hey Blue! Red is more than double our armies, want to truce?
Blue: Sorry, I'm playing for second.
Red: lol.

Re: point loss reform, based on rank in game

PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 7:40 pm
by PLAYER57832
In most maps, when you are eliminated is not a greater indicator of skill. There is ONE winner .. everyone else loses.

The other option is to play Terminator.

Re: point loss reform, based on rank in game

PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:20 pm
by Timminz
Terminator seems to be the best answer to this question.

Re: point loss reform, based on rank in game

PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:25 pm
by killmanic
This seems like a bad idea since you would be willing to sacrafice yourself to kill a higher rank since then you would gain points

Re: point loss reform, based on rank in game

PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:30 pm
by tubaman
Would this mean if you get last then you lose the most points? Like in an 8 player game instead of losing 20 points, you would lose 140 points? Meaning you have to get 4th or higher (on average) to gain points? If so, does getting 4th place deserve any points at all?

Re: point loss reform, based on rank in game

PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:58 am
by Top Dog
so 8th place goes from a captain to cook basically

Re: point loss reform, based on rank in game

PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 6:46 pm
by a.sub
obviously nobody wants this how do i delete it?

Re: point loss reform, based on rank in game

PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 8:25 pm
by Timminz
a.sub wrote:obviously nobody wants this how do i delete it?


Don't worry about deleting it. There's no need/way.

Re: point loss reform, based on rank in game

PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 10:45 pm
by Renee_W
There is no 1st 2nd 3rd ect place. There is just the winner and the losers.