Conquer Club

• for each map, please add the number of starting territories each player gets to the image you see when you click the map icon on the "Join a Game" or "Game Finder results" pages

• I could have sworn there was once a legend at the bottom of the map image that popped up if you clicked the icon, but now it's just a link to the discussion thread, and the requested info is not always (or even commonly) readily available in those.
  
  What I'm looking for is, for each map, a listing like:
  
  "2 players - 14 territories each, 3 players - 10 territories, 4 plr - 7, 5 plr - 6, 6 plr- 5, 7 plr - 4, 8 plr - 4"
  
  The reason behind my curiosity is for better decision making info when I'm considering joining/starting a game on a map I'm not really familiar with. I would not want to join a 1v1 game on any map where each player starts with exactly 12 or 15 or 18 (etc) territories. The first player has a built-in advantage on every map, but this is even more pronounced in those cases... e.g. if two players start with 21 territories each, the first player has a drop of 7 and all he has to do is take one territory to knock his opponent down to a bonus of 6. [And if he can manage to take 4 territories, he reduces the bonus down to 5 troops!] Even if the dice are completely even from that point and they trade about the same number of territories each turn, the first player is gaining a 1 troop advantage every round, which sure adds up!
  
  Likewise, I would not want to join a 3 player game where each player starts with 12 or 15 territories.
  
  Anyway, I'm pretty sure this info is available, because I'm nearly certain I've seen it in the past. I just can't remember where.

• Better info availability (the right info in the right place),
• enhances confidence in the likelihood of an "even drop" when trying a new map, encouraging players to try more variety

chapcrap wrote:When you click on the map's thumbnail to bring up a picture, isn't there a link in the bottom corner to the discussion topic for the map?

Pertinent information should be there.

DiM wrote:

chapcrap wrote:When you click on the map's thumbnail to bring up a picture, isn't there a link in the bottom corner to the discussion topic for the map?

Pertinent information should be there.

yes there's a link but pertinent information is rarely available at a glance. in some cases you'll find some details in the first post and you'll have to dig for details in the rest of the thread. but in a lot of maps the first post doesn't even contain basic info.

so i totally agree with this suggestion.

DiM wrote:

chapcrap wrote:When you click on the map's thumbnail to bring up a picture, isn't there a link in the bottom corner to the discussion topic for the map?

Pertinent information should be there.

yes there's a link but pertinent information is rarely available at a glance. in some cases you'll find some details in the first post and you'll have to dig for details in the rest of the thread. but in a lot of maps the first post doesn't even contain basic info.

so i totally agree with this suggestion.

chapcrap wrote:That sounds like a Foundry problem rather than something that needs to change in map imagery. I'm not in favor.

agentcom wrote:Damn, I thought this post was about something else: The starting values of each territ. Several times, I went through a map's foundry page to figure out what kind of neutrals I'd be facing if I advanced, only to find this information buried in an xml file. I finally realized that I just had to go to game finder and hope that there were some sunny games that hadn't progressed very far. Now, adding that info to map image is a suggestion I'd support. This one ... eh, I don't really care how many territs I start out with on each map.

chapcrap wrote:

agentcom wrote:Damn, I thought this post was about something else: The starting values of each territ. Several times, I went through a map's foundry page to figure out what kind of neutrals I'd be facing if I advanced, only to find this information buried in an xml file. I finally realized that I just had to go to game finder and hope that there were some sunny games that hadn't progressed very far. Now, adding that info to map image is a suggestion I'd support. This one ... eh, I don't really care how many territs I start out with on each map.

This idea would be something I would support if it had it's own suggestion.

chapcrap wrote:

agentcom wrote:Damn, I thought this post was about something else: The starting values of each territ. Several times, I went through a map's foundry page to figure out what kind of neutrals I'd be facing if I advanced, only to find this information buried in an xml file. I finally realized that I just had to go to game finder and hope that there were some sunny games that hadn't progressed very far. Now, adding that info to map image is a suggestion I'd support. This one ... eh, I don't really care how many territs I start out with on each map.

This idea would be something I would support if it had it's own suggestion.