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List of Multis

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 10:24 am
by firth4eva
List of banned people

<Body>: The mods have a topic ,only they can reply to, where they put the names of all busted multis and secret alliances

Why it is needed: when people are banned and people know they are family so they can get unbanned

Priority** (1-5): 3

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 10:28 am
by hecter
I'm SURE that the mods aren't banning random people. That, and I think they have a list in there own private forum. Not sure though… Just a rumor I heard from an anonymous source.

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 10:29 am
by firth4eva
hecter wrote:I'm SURE that the mods aren't banning random people. That, and I think they have a list in there own private forum. Not sure though… Just a rumor I heard from an anonymous source.


ok so ill change it to when people are banned and people know they are family so they can get unbanned

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 11:06 am
by joeyjordison
if u r family then u need to announce in the forum and if u get accused u need to link to ur pre-announced statement.

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 12:31 pm
by AK_iceman
You really want a list of all the busted multis? Right now it's 86 pages with 100 names per page.

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 12:46 pm
by firth4eva
joeyjordison wrote:if u r family then u need to announce in the forum and if u get accused u need to link to ur pre-announced statement.


i did that but still got banned from playing with him

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 1:14 pm
by loopinvariant
The problem of multis is not easily solved, and the approach at CC appears to be "kill 'em all, let God sort 'em out." With the minimal income this site generates, I can't say I blame them for not wanting to put up with the hassle.

There are legitimate situations where multiple people, each with their own account, might want to play in a game together (teams or not). The problem is detecting this scenario and approving it, while catching the other scenarios such as:

- User creates a two additional accounts as a newbies, creates a game with thier real account, then kills the zombie accounts for rank.
- User creates a zombie account and brings it into a game, and uses it as a secret ally.
- User creates a zombie account and brings it into a game, and lets it go deadbeat in order to give themselves an advantage over the other players.

And the list goes on, there are a lot of ways that multis can be abused.

If you try to solve it by a rule that premium members can have multiple accounts, you've just opened the door for condoned abuses by the people that can afford to buy additional premium accounts. At $20 a year, that's not to hard to get two or three from mom & dad, its less than a single A title PC game.

I asked for a way to do this, but didn't receive a positive response from one of the moderators. It was more to the effect of if I do it, they will ban me. http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18840.

It would be a nice feature to have, and personally even though I like CC, if I find a site that allows me to have friends and family play a the same time from the same location (so we can stop rolling so many dice!), I'll buy an account there. It's also the one item that stops me from buying a premium account here.

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 1:14 pm
by AndyDufresne
Not a very good idea.


--Andy

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 1:16 pm
by loopinvariant
AndyDufresne wrote:Not a very good idea.


--Andy


It's actually a very good idea, but with a lot of problems that make it difficult to solve and make work effectively.

There's a big difference between a bad idea, and a good idea that is hard to solve in a cost effective manner.

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 2:35 pm
by Syzygy
AK_iceman wrote:You really want a list of all the busted multis? Right now it's 86 pages with 100 names per page.


Holy crap. Almost 8600. :shock:

I don't envy the jobs of the multi-hunters.

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 3:54 pm
by AndyDufresne
The list really isn't needed. If a family gets busted on accident, we've got a process for them to contact us and ask for further investigation, etc.


--Andy