Conquer Club

Improve suggestions system


Work on a way to get good suggestions through quicker bad suggestions out sooner so we can keep the suggestion area up to date:


Specifics/Details:

• when a suggestion is put fourth it has X amount of time to get Y (it should be a big number so not every little cool idea gets through, but not an enormous one because not to enough people pay attention to this forum) amount of approvals
• If it doesn’t get that amount of approvals by the set time it is moved to rejected
• If it does get the set number than it moves to archived suggestion
• Then a set number of members of team CC to approve it then it is brought before the admins and the tech team if needed (for complex thingies they might not be able to pull off) or any other group of team CC it directly affects if they agree that it is good it is implemented
• We can also have an auto rejected list like a forfeit option change dice and other things that will never happen

How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:

• the simplest of suggestions take forever to get through there has been a request for a CC time clock in the banner for more than an entire year
• this would keep the suggestion board up to date and more efficient
• c’mon we all know the current system gets us nowhere

my idea doesn’t need to be the final draft and it probably won’t be if there are changes that need to be made I will stay open to them

move to rejected

Suggestions is a great forum but I think there's just too much information for the moderators to process.

The topics get many hits, though. If more of those viewers left feedback, the mods' workload would lighten considerably as they could devote their time to only the most promising and popular suggestions.

Maybe a poll for every new suggestion is the solution.

Dorieus wrote:Suggestions is a great forum but I think there's just too much information for the moderators to process.

The topics get many hits, though. If more of those viewers left feedback, the mods' workload would lighten considerably as they could devote their time to only the most promising and popular suggestions.

Maybe a poll for every new suggestion is the solution.

To be clear: the mods do not implement suggestions. There is currently one person who implements suggestions and that is lackattack, the site owner. So, I don't think it's a problem of him not being able to process information. I think it's a problem of not having enough time.

What chap said. It's not a problem that can be solved by streamlining the suggestions forum. It's a matter of how much time lack puts into implementing new features. I think the Suggestions forum is a decent system for helping lack see what the (vocal) members of this site want. Does that mean that a suggestion with overwhelming approval will be implemented? No. But neither would it under your proposal.

So, I don't really think the suggestion system should be changed significantly. IMO, the biggest problem with the Suggestions Forum now, is how the mods move things around (stickies and movement between Suggestions, Submitted and Rejected subfora). But that's something that I address in individual threads when I see it, not something that calls for a significant change in methods.

agentcom wrote:What chap said. It's not a problem that can be solved by streamlining the suggestions forum. It's a matter of how much time lack puts into implementing new features. I think the Suggestions forum is a decent system for helping lack see what the (vocal) members of this site want. Does that mean that a suggestion with overwhelming approval will be implemented? No. But neither would it under your proposal.

So, I don't really think the suggestion system should be changed significantly. IMO, the biggest problem with the Suggestions Forum now, is how the mods move things around (stickies and movement between Suggestions, Submitted and Rejected subfora). But that's something that I address in individual threads when I see it, not something that calls for a significant change in methods.

then maybe we need to get more people on top of implementing suggestions besides lack

redhedge47 wrote:

agentcom wrote:What chap said. It's not a problem that can be solved by streamlining the suggestions forum. It's a matter of how much time lack puts into implementing new features. I think the Suggestions forum is a decent system for helping lack see what the (vocal) members of this site want. Does that mean that a suggestion with overwhelming approval will be implemented? No. But neither would it under your proposal.

So, I don't really think the suggestion system should be changed significantly. IMO, the biggest problem with the Suggestions Forum now, is how the mods move things around (stickies and movement between Suggestions, Submitted and Rejected subfora). But that's something that I address in individual threads when I see it, not something that calls for a significant change in methods.

then maybe we need to get more people on top of implementing suggestions besides lack

That couldn't hurt. Maybe someday...

The suggs forum is like a feel good forum for us plebs. Yea, the popular suggestions never get implemented even though they're "submitted" but at least we can feel like we have an effect on the site.

Getting more people requires either volunteers or money. There is not endless supply of either. Even if someone wants to volunteer, are they the type of person that can actually help implement a suggestion? Most of the time this will require somewhat advanced coding skills. And we wouldn't want lack opening up the inner workings of the site to just anybody.

And submitted suggestions do sometimes get implemented. Especially if they're simple or have a groundswell of support. Let's not forget that. And if you do, go back to the Implemented Suggestions forum and check out what has become known as Trench Warfare, Terminator and Assassin. Those are 3 big ones. For a site that really only promises you a Risk=like experience, CC has come a long way from the basic settings of that game.

agentcom wrote:Getting more people requires either volunteers or money. There is not endless supply of either. Even if someone wants to volunteer, are they the type of person that can actually help implement a suggestion? Most of the time this will require somewhat advanced coding skills. And we wouldn't want lack opening up the inner workings of the site to just anybody.

And submitted suggestions do sometimes get implemented. Especially if they're simple or have a groundswell of support. Let's not forget that. And if you do, go back to the Implemented Suggestions forum and check out what has become known as Trench Warfare, Terminator and Assassin. Those are 3 big ones. For a site that really only promises you a Risk=like experience, CC has come a long way from the basic settings of that game.

I know a lot of updates that had minimal support (nuke spoils, the skip game thing, etc.)

Army of GOD wrote:

agentcom wrote:Getting more people requires either volunteers or money. There is not endless supply of either. Even if someone wants to volunteer, are they the type of person that can actually help implement a suggestion? Most of the time this will require somewhat advanced coding skills. And we wouldn't want lack opening up the inner workings of the site to just anybody.

And submitted suggestions do sometimes get implemented. Especially if they're simple or have a groundswell of support. Let's not forget that. And if you do, go back to the Implemented Suggestions forum and check out what has become known as Trench Warfare, Terminator and Assassin. Those are 3 big ones. For a site that really only promises you a Risk=like experience, CC has come a long way from the basic settings of that game.

I know a lot of updates that had minimal support (nuke spoils, the skip game thing, etc.)

And now those are functions/options that are greatly used. So a suggestion system that weeds out things that don't have apparent support wouldn't have caught these. +1 to the powers that be. (If this was actually the case. I don't have any reason to doubt you. I'm just not familiar with how those suggestions progressed.)

agentcom wrote:Getting more people requires either volunteers or money. There is not endless supply of either. Even if someone wants to volunteer, are they the type of person that can actually help implement a suggestion? Most of the time this will require somewhat advanced coding skills. And we wouldn't want lack opening up the inner workings of the site to just anybody.

We do have a good tech team that has some really good programers

redhedge47 wrote:

agentcom wrote:Getting more people requires either volunteers or money. There is not endless supply of either. Even if someone wants to volunteer, are they the type of person that can actually help implement a suggestion? Most of the time this will require somewhat advanced coding skills. And we wouldn't want lack opening up the inner workings of the site to just anybody.

We do have a good tech team that has some really good programers

True. And they do great work. And I think that they do that great work within the existing system. Therefore, I do not support the overhaul of the suggestions system that you are proposing. I think that there are some problems within that system but also that those problems can be addressed within the system.

agentcom wrote:

redhedge47 wrote:

agentcom wrote:Getting more people requires either volunteers or money. There is not endless supply of either. Even if someone wants to volunteer, are they the type of person that can actually help implement a suggestion? Most of the time this will require somewhat advanced coding skills. And we wouldn't want lack opening up the inner workings of the site to just anybody.

We do have a good tech team that has some really good programers

True. And they do great work. And I think that they do that great work within the existing system. Therefore, I do not support the overhaul of the suggestions system that you are proposing. I think that there are some problems within that system but also that those problems can be addressed within the system.

The other issue is, several of the tech team have volunteered to code things for lack, and he won't allow it.

blakebowling wrote:The other issue is, several of the tech team have volunteered to code things for lack, and he won't allow it.

I was not aware of this. Lack does change his mind on things though when there is enough quantity or persistence of support. See the last couple pages of Adjacent Attacks for evidence of that.

why won't he allow it?

Army of GOD wrote:why won't he allow it?

He says because he wouldn't be able to pay us.

blakebowling wrote:

Army of GOD wrote:why won't he allow it?

He says because he wouldn't be able to pay us.

But didn't you say they offered to "volunteer"?

would it be because if he pays them then there is a contract entered into. they can't screw him and CC over without him being able to take action against them.

greenoaks wrote:would it be because if he pays them then there is a contract entered into. they can't screw him and CC over without him being able to take action against them.

right. it's difficult/awkward to contract a volunteer.

Couldn't he just pay you a nominal fee like $1 or pay you in an extra 3 months premium? That would seem to settle that issue.