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Allow tournament organizers to view fog games

PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:15 pm
by Super Nova
Concise description:
  • Allow tournament organizers to see fog games without the fog in their own tournament (unless the organizers themselves are in the tournament).

How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:
  • I'm currently hosting a tournament that involves some games with fog. It would be nice to see how the game is progressing so as to get an idea of when it will be finished, so that the tournament can be planned accordingly. Some may say that this is not really needed, since anyone can see the number of territories each player has, but often this is very inaccurate reading of how the game is developing (for instance if one player has 4 territs and a stack of 80 on one of them)

Re: Allow tournament directors to view fog games

PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:30 pm
by QoH
No.

The TD could be bribed by one of the players to take a snapshot and then know whats going on.

Re: Allow tournament directors to view fog games

PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:31 pm
by blakebowling
You mean Tournament Organizers?

Also, this would take a lot of coding to make possible, and I really don't see that much of an advantage.

Re: Allow tournament directors to view fog games

PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:34 pm
by Metsfanmax
Also, TOs often play in their own tournaments, and they could abuse this to see the strategy of their future opponents when otherwise they couldn't.

Re: Allow tournament directors to view fog games

PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:06 pm
by greenoaks
if you want to know what is going on in a game don't play fog

Re: Allow tournament directors to view fog games

PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:18 pm
by HannibaƂ
Although I would like this as I am nosey and enjoy watching the progress. I see to much risk for corruption.

Re: Allow tournament directors to view fog games

PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 11:45 pm
by rdsrds2120
I think the room for error and possible negative side effects outweighs that of the benefits put forth by this suggestion. I appreciate your idea, but I don't think that it should be put forth considering all factors.

-rd

Re: Allow tournament directors to view fog games

PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:41 am
by stahrgazer
Super Nova wrote:Concise description:
  • Allow tournament directors to see fog games without the fog in their own tournament (unless the directors themselves are in the tournament).

How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:
  • I'm currently hosting a tournament that involves some games with fog. It would be nice to see how the game is progressing so as to get an idea of when it will be finished, so that the tournament can be planned accordingly. Some may say that this is not really needed, since anyone can see the number of territories each player has, but often this is very inaccurate reading of how the game is developing (for instance if one player has 4 territs and a stack of 80 on one of them)


This should only be allowed if tournament directors are banned from joining their own tournaments.

Otherwise, ask the participants how the game is going.

Re: Allow tournament directors to view fog games

PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:50 am
by Night Strike
Do you mean organizes or Directors, because there is a BIG difference? However, it's a bad idea either way.

Re: Allow tournament directors to view fog games

PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:45 am
by blakebowling
Night Strike wrote:Do you mean organizes or Directors, because there is a BIG difference? However, it's a bad idea either way.

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Re: Allow tournament directors to view fog games

PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:36 pm
by Super Nova
Night Strike wrote:Do you mean organizes or Directors, because there is a BIG difference? However, it's a bad idea either way.


I meant organizers. My bad. (fixed in the first post)

Everyone seems to have objections to this suggestion, which are valid, but this is just a rough draft of suggestion. Does anyone have any ideas on how to address the objections but still get the benefits?

Re: Allow tournament directors to view fog games

PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:46 pm
by Night Strike
Super Nova wrote:Everyone seems to have objections to this suggestion, which are valid, but this is just a rough draft of suggestion. Does anyone have any ideas on how to address the objections but still get the benefits?


The only way would be with an automated system that would not require a user to look into the game to determine the strengths of the remaining players.

Re: Allow tournament organizers to view fog games

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:10 am
by Army of GOD
Is this even possible?

Re: Allow tournament organizers to view fog games

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:27 am
by jefjef
A quick look at tert counts, which is viewable, and a short scan of the last couple rounds of game log should be plenty to gauge the progress...

Re: Allow tournament directors to view fog games

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:05 am
by SirSebstar
blakebowling wrote:
Night Strike wrote:Do you mean organizes or Directors, because there is a BIG difference? However, it's a bad idea either way.

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agreed.
bad idea