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Usergroup Medals

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:25 am
by greenoaks
General

The usergroup medal will be handed out to players and will encourage players to join usergroups and participate in wars.

Qualifying Challenges

In order to have usergroup game creation privileges, a Usergroup War must be of at least 40 games. This will allow the social groups to custom build any challenge they wish in their negotiations.

However, in order to receive a Usergroup Achievement Medal, the war and players will need to meet ALL of the following criteria:

Wars:

* A War must be of a minimum 41 games, and must have a specific defined process for determining a winner, prior to the start of the War. A random triples neutral game is recommended.
* War restrictions must adhere to the basic restrictions inherently built by clans meaning No Freestyle, No Manual, No Speed
* The game composition must comprise 100% Team Games. Recommended setup is 25% Doubles, 25% Triples, 25% Quadruples and 25% Choice of Team Games
* Usergroup Wars must be fairly negotiated
* Must be considered a reasonably fair War, meaning farming of medals will not be allowed. Any questionable war will be discussed first by the Clan Directors and if any further discussion is needed, the Clan Leader's Association will be consulted.
* A minimum of 10 players must be used.
* A player in both usergroups must declare which group they will represent. No switching of sides is allowed
* Usergroup War thread must be adequately documented to ensure medals are properly given out, primarily game numbers and winner


Players:

* Be on the winning usergroup
* Have played the minimum game requirement (See Example)
* Have a minimum of 1 win

Re: Usergroup Medals

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:38 am
by SirSebstar
nice way to circumvent the current ruling.. i'd say go for it and good luck

Re: Usergroup Medals

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:09 pm
by 40kguy
whats the point of having competive clans and non compeative clans? the point of usergroups is to post in a forum not to play games.

Re: Usergroup Medals

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:58 pm
by rdsrds2120
...why set up something that is in all essence clan wars then slap a new label sticker on it? Seems...not ok.

-rd

Re: Usergroup Medals

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:35 pm
by AndyDufresne
I think you should just convert your social usergroup to a clan. :)

I'd rather see newer unique medals, like a Random Map medal, or the new Team Medal idea.


--Andy

Re: Usergroup Medals

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:41 pm
by greenoaks
40kguy wrote:whats the point of having competive clans and non compeative clans? the point of usergroups is to post in a forum not to play games.

some usergroups were set up to play games. sometimes those usergroups may play games against each other.

rdsrds2120 wrote:...why set up something that is in all essence clan wars then slap a new label sticker on it? Seems...not ok.

-rd

because the non-standard challenge i suggested elsewhere is appperently too non-standard to be considered a non-standard challenge.

imo, if something walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it should be fried and served with plum sauce, just like a duck.

Re: Usergroup Medals

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:56 am
by greenoaks
AndyDufresne wrote:I think you should just convert your social usergroup to a clan. :)

I'd rather see newer unique medals, like a Random Map medal, or the new Team Medal idea.


--Andy

The Map Blasters was created to play games, mostly they are internally filled but sometimes they are against a clan that wants to learn some new maps.

Once a Map Blaster has learned a map they cease to play it within the usergroup. Being a competitive clan goes against the group's stated goal of being a n00b. However, the usergroup could be an excellent tool for a competitive clan to trial unfamiliar maps. Offers of enlistment to any unaligned Map Blasters by the competative clan would be encouraged. ;)

It would not be the usual competative challenge because the maps selected are ones the clan/usergroup are uncompetative on but as the other team is also uncompetative on it the game becomes competative. Does that make sense?

I would like to be able to create those games with the ease afforded others on this site. Ideally this would fall under the CD's definition of a non-standard challenge with game creation privs handed out that way and any recognition for success easily dealt with.

This suggestion is not about undermining the competative clanscape, I am merely trying to enhance a social group's value to its members and non-members alike.

Re: Usergroup Medals

PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:32 am
by SirSebstar
mapblasters could easely set up a tournament with all the members being pre invited and another half that can freely sign up. this wold also give the map blasters some fresh players to go against.. or is that not the idea?

Re: Usergroup Medals

PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 5:43 pm
by 40kguy
greenoaks wrote:
40kguy wrote:whats the point of having competive clans and non compeative clans? the point of usergroups is to post in a forum not to play games.

some usergroups were set up to play games. sometimes those usergroups may play games against each other.


yes, then they should play games in there usergroup. If they want to play like a clan they can make there own.

Re: Usergroup Medals

PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:47 am
by JoshyBoy
No. Just no. You want medals? Join or create a fucking clan. This is a dumb ass idea.

Re: Usergroup Medals

PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:34 pm
by Queen_Herpes
AndyDufresne wrote:I think you should just convert your social usergroup to a clan. :)

I'd rather see newer unique medals, like a Random Map medal, or the new Team Medal idea.


--Andy


I disagree Andy, I think it would be cool to see the Star Wars geeks fight the Star Trek nerds maybe once per year or something. Although I agree that there are competitive and noncompetitive groups, it still would be interesting to see some of the comparable groups hack at it on the conquerclub field of battle.

Re: Usergroup Medals

PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:36 pm
by blakebowling
Queen_Herpes wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:I think you should just convert your social usergroup to a clan. :)

I'd rather see newer unique medals, like a Random Map medal, or the new Team Medal idea.


--Andy


I disagree Andy, I think it would be cool to see the Star Wars geeks fight the Star Trek nerds maybe once per year or something. Although I agree that there are competitive and noncompetitive groups, it still would be interesting to see some of the comparable groups hack at it on the conquerclub field of battle.

You don't seem to understand the concept of Competitive Clans vs Social Usergroups. The whole point of clans is to represent yourself with a large group of people. Therefore you get one clan. The point of Social Usergroups is to discuss topics in your own private forum with other members that share your interests.

Re: Usergroup Medals

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:32 am
by Queen_Herpes
blakebowling wrote:
Queen_Herpes wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:I think you should just convert your social usergroup to a clan. :)

I'd rather see newer unique medals, like a Random Map medal, or the new Team Medal idea.


--Andy


I disagree Andy, I think it would be cool to see the Star Wars geeks fight the Star Trek nerds maybe once per year or something. Although I agree that there are competitive and noncompetitive groups, it still would be interesting to see some of the comparable groups hack at it on the conquerclub field of battle.

You don't seem to understand the concept of Competitive Clans vs Social Usergroups. The whole point of clans is to represent yourself with a large group of people. Therefore you get one clan. The point of Social Usergroups is to discuss topics in your own private forum with other members that share your interests.


I completely understand it. You don't think the Republicans don't ever want to "battle" the Democrats? I seem to know quite a few Star Wars fans who mock the Star Trek fans. Think those two usergroups could ever come to blows (albeit more of a slapfight with tossing of pocket protectors and cursing the opponents' perspectives of non-Euclidean geometry.) but blows nonetheless. How about hte COmmunity College usergroup versus the McGill University group? Certainly one tries to claim precedence over the other in verbal attacks, but what about on the BATTLEFIELD OF CONQUERCLUB.COM????? I say, "Let them play!"

Re: Usergroup Medals

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:22 am
by TheForgivenOne
Queen_Herpes wrote:
blakebowling wrote:
Queen_Herpes wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:I think you should just convert your social usergroup to a clan. :)

I'd rather see newer unique medals, like a Random Map medal, or the new Team Medal idea.


--Andy


I disagree Andy, I think it would be cool to see the Star Wars geeks fight the Star Trek nerds maybe once per year or something. Although I agree that there are competitive and noncompetitive groups, it still would be interesting to see some of the comparable groups hack at it on the conquerclub field of battle.

You don't seem to understand the concept of Competitive Clans vs Social Usergroups. The whole point of clans is to represent yourself with a large group of people. Therefore you get one clan. The point of Social Usergroups is to discuss topics in your own private forum with other members that share your interests.


I completely understand it. You don't think the Republicans don't ever want to "battle" the Democrats? I seem to know quite a few Star Wars fans who mock the Star Trek fans. Think those two usergroups could ever come to blows (albeit more of a slapfight with tossing of pocket protectors and cursing the opponents' perspectives of non-Euclidean geometry.) but blows nonetheless. How about hte COmmunity College usergroup versus the McGill University group? Certainly one tries to claim precedence over the other in verbal attacks, but what about on the BATTLEFIELD OF CONQUERCLUB.COM????? I say, "Let them play!"


Let them play. I just don't see a need for a medal. You'll just have a ton of players join a bunch of Social usergroups and play challenges to get the 30 medals from Social Clan challenges.

Re: Usergroup Medals

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:08 am
by Queen_Herpes
If they all join social groups (if only to get the medals) wouldn't that drive membership and introduce some players to the social groups?

Re: Usergroup Medals

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:48 pm
by TheForgivenOne
Queen_Herpes wrote:If they all join social groups (if only to get the medals) wouldn't that drive membership and introduce some players to the social groups?


Yeah, then what? They finish getting the 30 medals and never post in the actual clan forum again. Whoopdedoo.

Re: Usergroup Medals

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:34 pm
by greenoaks
TheForgivenOne wrote:
Queen_Herpes wrote:If they all join social groups (if only to get the medals) wouldn't that drive membership and introduce some players to the social groups?


Yeah, then what? They finish getting the 30 medals and never post in the actual clan forum again. Whoopdedoo.

so you think this should be limited to 30 medals :D

i think it would take many years to reach a number like that
Queen_Herpes wrote:I think it would be cool to see the Star Wars geeks fight the Star Trek nerds maybe once per year or something. Although I agree that there are competitive and noncompetitive groups, it still would be interesting to see some of the comparable groups hack at it on the conquerclub field of battle.


i also think an annual Sci-Fi Cup would be interesting - Star Wars vs Trekkies vs Battlestar Galactica
The Annual World Religion Cup - Christianity vs Islam vs Hindu vs .......
Presedential Cup - Republicans vs Democrats vs Tories vs (New) Labour
or a Superior Language Challenge - the Frenchies vs the Dutch vs English speakers, etc

Re: Usergroup Medals

PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 12:56 am
by TheForgivenOne
greenoaks wrote:
TheForgivenOne wrote:
Queen_Herpes wrote:If they all join social groups (if only to get the medals) wouldn't that drive membership and introduce some players to the social groups?


Yeah, then what? They finish getting the 30 medals and never post in the actual clan forum again. Whoopdedoo.

so you think this should be limited to 30 medals :D


No, that's the cap right now for competitive clan/Tournament/Maps created medals :roll:

Re: Usergroup Medals

PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 7:20 pm
by blakebowling
If I'm correct, two groups could host a public tournament against each other, and receive medals in that fashion providing: BOTH of the usergroups are freely open (eg. there isn't a criteria to join), and slots aren't reserved for any current members, simply those who post in the tournament thread first are allowed to play.

However medals for usergroups won't happen. This is the critical difference between usergroups and clans. Clans compete against each other. Usergroups don't.

Rejected.