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Give Freemiums who are in clans an extra game slot

PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:55 pm
by Queen_Herpes
Concise description:
  • Freemiums who join a clan have demonstrated that they are part of the community by joining a group.
  • Reward their community involvement with a 5th game slot.

Specifics/Details:
  • As stated above

How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:
  • Freemium clan members could be more involved with their clans if they had an extra game slot that they could dedicate to clan games, clan wars, etc.
  • More people might join clans, getting regular freemium members more involved with the site.
  • More games, more fun!
  • Might encourage a freemium to bump to premium once more involved with the site and interested in playing more and more games.

Re: Give Freemiums who are in clans an extra game slot

PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:01 pm
by jpcloet
Most clans don't get much from freemiums. I like this idea, however, I've found that on average I need my clan member to have at least 5-10 games at any time. One extra game, likely won't be enough.

As for defining a clan, there is no formal list of clans nor the system to go with it. I'll keep this idea in the CD list, however, there are quite a few more important clan items on the wish list.

Re: Give Freemiums who are in clans an extra game slot

PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:02 pm
by lord voldemort
bad idea...you will get alot of people just joining clans that arent active to just get that extra game

Re: Give Freemiums who are in clans an extra game slot

PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:47 pm
by Darwins_Bane
lord voldemort wrote:bad idea...you will get alot of people just joining clans that arent active to just get that extra game


perhaps you could restrict the 5th game to clan games only? you would have ppl joining, but still feeling limited inside the clan. They might even be convinced to buy premium.

Re: Give Freemiums who are in clans an extra game slot

PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:58 pm
by Queen_Herpes
lord voldemort wrote:bad idea...you will get alot of people just joining clans that arent active to just get that extra game


What would be the harm? Its not as though clans are looking to balloon their ranks with a bunch of inactive clan members. When last I was in a clan, there were posting requirements, and average rating requirements. Doubtful that this would become a back door for millions of, wait, thousands of, oh yeah, there are hundreds of freemiums out there! Even if those hundreds got an extra game slot "unfairly" a goodly percentage of them will probably become active.

Re: Give Freemiums who are in clans an extra game slot

PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:45 pm
by L M S
It's 25 bucks a year, if you are into this site enough to join a clan, spring for premium...or get your clannies to do it.

Re: Give Freemiums who are in clans an extra game slot

PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:51 pm
by chemefreak
jpcloet wrote:Most clans don't get much from freemiums. I like this idea, however, I've found that on average I need my clan member to have at least 5-10 games at any time. One extra game, likely won't be enough.

As for defining a clan, there is no formal list of clans nor the system to go with it. I'll keep this idea in the CD list, however, there are quite a few more important clan items on the wish list.


You know my opinion on this jp, I think that clans that are in the CLA should require premium membership. That way lack will see the upside to clans. Just my opinion.

Re: Give Freemiums who are in clans an extra game slot

PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:02 pm
by jpcloet
Clans are about 95-99% premium already and represent approx 25% of the stable revenues. This idea just have enough of an impact to have the programming behind it. Good idea, however, very low priority.

Re: Give Freemiums who are in clans an extra game slot

PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:20 pm
by the.killing.44
No way to technically pick out which games are clan vs. regular private games, by the way.

Re: Give Freemiums who are in clans an extra game slot

PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:41 pm
by jrh_cardinal
Queen_Herpes wrote:
lord voldemort wrote:bad idea...you will get alot of people just joining clans that arent active to just get that extra game


What would be the harm? Its not as though clans are looking to balloon their ranks with a bunch of inactive clan members. When last I was in a clan, there were posting requirements, and average rating requirements. Doubtful that this would become a back door for millions of, wait, thousands of, oh yeah, there are hundreds of freemiums out there! Even if those hundreds got an extra game slot "unfairly" a goodly percentage of them will probably become active.

freemiums could just start up their own clan, accept 9 other freemiums, and magically have a fifth game. All they'd have to do would be post every week or so in the clan forum to keep it active

Re: Give Freemiums who are in clans an extra game slot

PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:45 pm
by pmchugh
As a (for the time being) fremium clan member i think this idea is horrible, most of the reasons have been pointed out such as freemiums making clans for the sole purpose of an extra game.

Re: Give Freemiums who are in clans an extra game slot

PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:04 am
by Queen_Herpes
jrh_cardinal wrote:
Queen_Herpes wrote:
lord voldemort wrote:bad idea...you will get alot of people just joining clans that arent active to just get that extra game


What would be the harm? Its not as though clans are looking to balloon their ranks with a bunch of inactive clan members. When last I was in a clan, there were posting requirements, and average rating requirements. Doubtful that this would become a back door for millions of, wait, thousands of, oh yeah, there are hundreds of freemiums out there! Even if those hundreds got an extra game slot "unfairly" a goodly percentage of them will probably become active.

freemiums could just start up their own clan, accept 9 other freemiums, and magically have a fifth game. All they'd have to do would be post every week or so in the clan forum to keep it active


First of all, creating the clan is under some level of scrutiny, right? I cannot simply "start" a clan on a whim, right? If so, I've been missing out. I will start a clan as soon as I get confirmation.

Second of all, wouldn't it be nice to have more clans? Clans implies a participation level that is higher than that of the average member at CC. Someone up above mentioned the CLA...and that there are Clans that are better than others. Certainly, if some numbskull opens up a crappy clan and gets it past the mods and gets some idiots who are members to post, sure, they'd be a shitty clan. But everything here operates on a bell curve. There are going to be a few crappy clans. There are probably a few right now, I'm sure. I would think someone is in charge of eliminating those clans and usergroups that are functionless. I know I was a member of a usergroup that got the boot, it happens, so someone is out there monitoring it.

Third of all, once someone joins a clan, who is to say that member isn't going to go on to be more involved in the site, perhaps buy premium, maybe even apply for membership to an established clan? On day one here at CC there were how many clans? That's right, zero. So some idiot had to come up with the notion of a clan and start his own clan. The first few clans probably sucked at the beginning. There was and is a learning curve. At this point, with so many established clans, there probably isn't incentive to start a new clan, and I think this might help. Maybe there are 10-15 users out there that don't know each other and perhaps could come together (under the guise of wanting a 5th game slot) start a clan...then...*gasp*...figure out that the clan thing is pretty f-ing cool.