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Re: list the spoils in the order they can be cashed

Postby Woodruff on Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:51 pm

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Donlarry wrote:list the spoils in order they can be cashed =D>

OK, I have tried to understand what you mean here and am clueless. If you want serious comments, please explain better.

Donlarry wrote:there has got to be a way i dont have to sit here for a hlf hour figuring out what order to get my 10 extra guys none of u guys has a suggestion how about u add an extra button that just allows u to get your guys


then all u nuke guys will still have it the same



Among other issues, there is no "one order" for spoils. If you have more than 3 cards, you can choose which cards to put in. If you don't have a set at all, the button won't appear giving you the option to cash.

If you mean the count for escalating... again, that's not set. Whoever cashes first gets 4, the next one gets 6, etc. (these numbers are given in the instructions somewhere). Since people don't have to cash unless they have 5, there is no order.



im not talking about the order you get them or effecting nuclear games im just saying on the end result to just add a button to let me cash them in any order whatever so i dont have to do it manually and guess


Ok, I'm still trying to understand this...you're NOT talking about nuclear games?
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Re: list the spoils in the order they can be cashed

Postby Joodoo on Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:14 pm

I think the original intention of the OP was to create an automatic spoil cashing when a player has one or more sets of spoils that would be cashing them in a specific order so the player would get the most out of it.
So for escalating and flat rate, that would be cashing in all the spoils that are bolded first, and then spoils that are not bolded.
And for nuclear, that would be the opposite. Spoils that are not bolded are cashed in first, and then spoils that are bolded are cashed next.
However, I really don't see the point of this. It doesn't take more than 10 seconds to tell which spoils are bolded or not and cash them in.
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Re: list the spoils in the order they can be cashed

Postby TheForgivenOne on Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:53 pm

And in FoW games, it isn't always the best idea to cash in your owned territories, as it can give away where you are on the map to your opponents.
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Re: list the spoils in the order they can be cashed

Postby Woodruff on Tue Feb 15, 2011 7:13 pm

Joodoo wrote:I think the original intention of the OP was to create an automatic spoil cashing when a player has one or more sets of spoils that would be cashing them in a specific order so the player would get the most out of it.
So for escalating and flat rate, that would be cashing in all the spoils that are bolded first, and then spoils that are not bolded.
And for nuclear, that would be the opposite. Spoils that are not bolded are cashed in first, and then spoils that are bolded are cashed next.
However, I really don't see the point of this. It doesn't take more than 10 seconds to tell which spoils are bolded or not and cash them in.


If that is what the OP was trying to say (and I'm still not convinced it is, but I'll roll with it), then in addition to your points I would add that there is absolutely a strategy in deciding which "non-highlighted, non-otherwise-useful" spoils to cash. For instance, not currently owning but expecting to soon own a particular territory whose spoil you have. That sort of thing.
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Re: list the spoils in the order they can be cashed

Postby nikola_milicki on Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:40 am

I kinda like this idea.. it could be very useful in speed freestyle games where u need to be super fast so cashing a set with a single click would be huge.. also I play a lot of nuclear and many times my set would brake enemy bonus but I couldnt cash fast enough, b4 opponents would start his turn..
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Re: list the spoils in the order they can be cashed

Postby PLAYER57832 on Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:36 am

nikola_milicki wrote:I kinda like this idea.. it could be very useful in speed freestyle games where u need to be super fast so cashing a set with a single click would be huge.. also I play a lot of nuclear and many times my set would brake enemy bonus but I couldnt cash fast enough, b4 opponents would start his turn..

I can see the benefit in freestyle. However, I wonder if this might give newbies a distorted idea about strategies in cards.

Maybe it should only be an option in freestyle and perhaps (?) speed games?

In the end, his comment about taking "10 minutes" seems he needs more practice at the game
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Re: list the spoils in the order they can be cashed

Postby dr.lucas on Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:05 am

Donlarry wrote:there has got to be a way i dont have to sit here for a hlf hour figuring out what order to get my 10 extra guys none of u guys has a suggestion how about u add an extra button that just allows u to get your guys


then all u nuke guys will still have it the same


Okay based on this post I think that Donlarry is asking for a button that would maximize the card trade. ie if a player ahs three red cards, one blue and one green then to get the "10 extra guys" you have to cash a mixed set.

Am I correct in the way that you are explaining your suggestion Donlarry?

Joodoo wrote:I think the original intention of the OP was to create an automatic spoil cashing when a player has one or more sets of spoils that would be cashing them in a specific order so the player would get the most out of it.
So for escalating and flat rate, that would be cashing in all the spoils that are bolded first, and then spoils that are not bolded.
And for nuclear, that would be the opposite. Spoils that are not bolded are cashed in first, and then spoils that are bolded are cashed next.
However, I really don't see the point of this. It doesn't take more than 10 seconds to tell which spoils are bolded or not and cash them in.


Joodoo your interpretation/extrapolation of the suggestion could be helpful for new players but as others have pointed out the maximum card trade may not be the best strategy.

If this is a suggestion that has legs could the button be labeled max value (for nuke games min damage) and before it finishes the transaction a pop up appears with that the user has to confirm like the end of assault. if the player wants they can bypass the confirmation.
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Re: list the spoils in the order they can be cashed

Postby Doc_Brown on Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:59 pm

If Joodoo's interpretation is correct, I think the best route for this suggestion would be for someone to write an add-on (i.e. greasemonkey script) to do it. The only time this suggestion would be needed is if you have more than 5 cards and want to try to cash 2+ sets out of what you already have rather than cashing one and ending up with 3-4 unmatched cards. But this sort of scenario can happen at most a few times in any given game, and I don't think it's worth cluttering up the standard game screen for everyone to provide what amounts to a minimal aid in a very rare situation.
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Re: list the spoils in the order they can be cashed

Postby PLAYER57832 on Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:12 pm

Doc_Brown wrote:If Joodoo's interpretation is correct, I think the best route for this suggestion would be for someone to write an add-on (i.e. greasemonkey script) to do it. The only time this suggestion would be needed is if you have more than 5 cards and want to try to cash 2+ sets out of what you already have rather than cashing one and ending up with 3-4 unmatched cards. But this sort of scenario can happen at most a few times in any given game, and I don't think it's worth cluttering up the standard game screen for everyone to provide what amounts to a minimal aid in a very rare situation.

Not to mention, it only matters in speed and freestyle games anyway.
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Re: list the spoils in the order they can be cashed

Postby Woodruff on Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:28 am

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Doc_Brown wrote:If Joodoo's interpretation is correct, I think the best route for this suggestion would be for someone to write an add-on (i.e. greasemonkey script) to do it. The only time this suggestion would be needed is if you have more than 5 cards and want to try to cash 2+ sets out of what you already have rather than cashing one and ending up with 3-4 unmatched cards. But this sort of scenario can happen at most a few times in any given game, and I don't think it's worth cluttering up the standard game screen for everyone to provide what amounts to a minimal aid in a very rare situation.


Not to mention, it only matters in speed and freestyle games anyway.


I don't believe it would apply at all to casual freestyle games.
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Re: list the spoils in the order they can be cashed

Postby PLAYER57832 on Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:36 am

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Doc_Brown wrote:If Joodoo's interpretation is correct, I think the best route for this suggestion would be for someone to write an add-on (i.e. greasemonkey script) to do it. The only time this suggestion would be needed is if you have more than 5 cards and want to try to cash 2+ sets out of what you already have rather than cashing one and ending up with 3-4 unmatched cards. But this sort of scenario can happen at most a few times in any given game, and I don't think it's worth cluttering up the standard game screen for everyone to provide what amounts to a minimal aid in a very rare situation.


Not to mention, it only matters in speed and freestyle games anyway.


I don't believe it would apply at all to casual freestyle games.

Nor all speed.

Should have said "it matters only in a few speed and freestyle games"
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Re: list the spoils in the order they can be cashed

Postby Joodoo on Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:36 am

Is the OP even looking at what we've interpreted? This suggestion is going no where until, like Woodruff pointed out several million times, the OP clarifies this suggestion's description in his first post.
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Re: list the spoils in the order they can be cashed

Postby PLAYER57832 on Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:46 am

Joodoo wrote:Is the OP even looking at what we've interpreted? This suggestion is going no where until, like Woodruff pointed out several million times, the OP clarifies this suggestion's description in his first post.

I have a feeling this suggestion is "going nowhere" regardless of how the OP interprets it.
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Re: list the spoils in the order they can be cashed

Postby Woodruff on Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:13 pm

Joodoo wrote:Is the OP even looking at what we've interpreted? This suggestion is going no where until, like Woodruff pointed out several million times, the OP clarifies this suggestion's description in his first post.


Apparently, I was only baiting him, per a Suggestions Moderator. <sigh>
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Re: list the spoils in the order they can be cashed

Postby Metsfanmax on Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:59 pm

It's ok Woodruff. I still have no idea what the hell is going on here either. We can be trolls together.
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Re: list the spoils in the order they can be cashed

Postby TheForgivenOne on Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:12 pm

Alright, I gave the OP ample time to edit his first post, so I will be moving this to rejected.
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