Inform community about community related punishments

by **Evil Semp** on Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:47 pm

lord voldemort wrote:sort of related...

Perhaps something to actually consider ...when someone is forum banned or kicked...an auto pm when you try to pm them or invite to games saying that this person is kicked or whatever..just to let you know...Not actual details. Just a hey this person wont get back to you for a while

"The number you have reached is not in service."

by **Woodruff** on Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:01 pm

Queen_Herpes wrote:Players have the right to know if someone they are up against or considering to go up against are cheaters or not.
Players have the right to know.
The community has a right to know.

Incorrect. You have no "rights" outside of what is listed in the Terms of Service. You have whatever capabilities that the administrators of this site give you, but you have no other "rights".

by **Queen_Herpes** on Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:03 am

Woodruff wrote:
Queen_Herpes wrote:Players have the right to know if someone they are up against or considering to go up against are cheaters or not.
Players have the right to know.
The community has a right to know.

Incorrect. You have no "rights" outside of what is listed in the Terms of Service. You have whatever capabilities that the administrators of this site give you, but you have no other "rights".

After I wrote what you quoted, and before you posted, I wrote this:

Read the Entire Thread Before Posting wrote:If the "right to know" is not there...then you should be considering a policy of "responsibilty to inform." The metaphors I mentioned are spot on target. In most societies it is the norm to identify wrongdoers. In fact, I challenge you to cite a society where identifying wrongdoers is NOT the norm.

As a player, I want to know if a potential opponent abuses the rating system. Why? Because I care about the ratings I receive. If they've been punished in the past, I want to know that so I don't elect to play games against them. Maybe I won't foe them, perhaps I will give them a chance and play them one year after their punishment.

As a player, I want to know if a player opened a multiple account. I want to know this in case they were avoiding something like ratings abuse or serial deadbeating or farming. I don't want to play games against players who are cheating and who are avoiding being publicly branded in a C&A Abuse case.

There seems to be a lot of mention of abuse that we players who peruse the C&A Forum do not know about. Are there cheaters who use "outlawed" scripts or special codes to give them an unfair advantage in a game? If so, I don't want to play against those players. I'm here for fair competition.

by **king sam** on Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:25 am

Look the bottom line is this was a suggestion that was made with a lot of thought and insight behind it on how to make the sight better, so kuddos for QH for that but the outcome of implying this is not something that from the sounds of it will be explored. There are many reasons; there was coding reasons, there was moderator time to input reasons, and there was the anonymity reasons behind users past transgressions.

Overall this is a gaming site and its using its right to protect its users privacy and past violations to a point. There are many violations that are ruled upon everyday in the C&A forum. Being a frequent visitor to that forum will have to be enough for you to to be in the know of other players dirty laundry. Informing the community via an add on on the profile or a forum thread of violators and their punishments will not be done. Whether you view this as it should be your right to know this information or not the site views it as its not.

KS

by **Queen_Herpes** on Mon Jul 12, 2010 12:30 am

king sam wrote:Look the bottom line is this was a suggestion that was made with a lot of thought and insight behind it on how to make the sight better, so kuddos for QH for that but the outcome of implying this is not something that from the sounds of it will be explored. There are many reasons;

king sam wrote:there was coding reasons,

I took those out of the suggestion a long time ago. No more coding. Please refer to the original post as I edited it there. I also made a comment referenceing the edit.

king sam wrote:there was moderator time to input reasons,

Also dealt with. Edited suggestion sees one line posted to a locked thread that is stickied and contains all busts from implementation forward, no back dated episodes.

king sam wrote:and there was the anonymity reasons behind users past transgressions.

AndyDufresne appears to have mentioned in comments to this thread that the anonmymity is not a real issue.

by **king sam** on Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:12 am

then i guess you have it all figured out

by **Queen_Herpes** on Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:36 am

king sam wrote:then i guess you have it all figured out

Good point. Insightful. I sent you and some other mods a PM. So as to avoid the anonymity issue.

by **king sam** on Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:40 pm

Queen_Herpes wrote:Good point. Insightful. I sent you and some other mods a PM. So as to avoid the anonymity issue.

Responded

by **Queen_Herpes** on Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:10 pm

king sam wrote:
Queen_Herpes wrote:Good point. Insightful. I sent you and some other mods a PM. So as to avoid the anonymity issue.

Responded

Responded back, looking for comments from someone else now.

by **JoshyBoy** on Sat Jul 17, 2010 7:33 pm

This is getting pointless.

by **Army of GOD** on Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:48 pm

Responded.

by **jefjef** on Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:54 pm

Well if you really want to know something just holler at me. I'll either tell ya, ignore ya or foe ya.

As for this sugg I want my 13 multi busts and 11 forum bans and my 3 farming warnings to remain private between me and CC.

END OF DISCUSSION.